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  • scotus
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    • Nov 2012
    • 162

    Multiple long guns on one DROS

    Did the law change on this in 2014? I was told at a store I had to pay for a separate DROS for each long gun because the law had changed this year. Previously I know handguns had to be a separate DROS but you could do multiple long guns on the same DROS. Just trying to learn what the rules are and see if I'm getting bad information (and overcharged) by the store.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44084

    Yes, the law changed at the first of the year when they started tracking long gun sales.
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      PolishMike
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      • Nov 2007
      • 6034

      If they are ran at the same time they can be added to the same DROS. Now even handguns and long guns can be DROS'd at the same time for one $25 fee (The way the law always was the old system just had no way to do it.)
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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44084

        Originally posted by PolishMike
        If they are ran at the same time they can be added to the same DROS. Now even handguns and long guns can be DROS'd at the same time for one $25 fee (The way the law always was the old system just had no way to do it.)
        That's what I thought but then I read this and figured the FFL knew what he was talking about.

        So, is it one DROS or multiple DROSes with a reduced charge?
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        • #5
          PolishMike
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          • Nov 2007
          • 6034

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          That's what I thought but then I read this and figured the FFL knew what he was talking about.

          So, is it one DROS or multiple DROSes with a reduced charge?
          Not sure what that link was referring to.

          They are technically different DROS's. The first one costs the dealer $25 and then there is a "Add additional firearm to same person" (wording is off) and each one you run is $0 additional (says so on the bottom)

          The problem is if you exit out of it or switch pages you lose the option of adding more firearms.
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          • #6
            Condorguns
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            • Dec 2007
            • 3302

            Originally posted by PolishMike
            Not sure what that link was referring to.

            They are technically different DROS's. The first one costs the dealer $25 and then there is a "Add additional firearm to same person" (wording is off) and each one you run is $0 additional (says so on the bottom)

            The problem is if you exit out of it or switch pages you lose the option of adding more firearms.
            The quoted post was about a 30+ gun PPT. I think this thread is talking about a multiple dealer sale.
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            • #7
              edgerly779
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              • Aug 2009
              • 19871

              I did a handgun and shotgun on same dros yesterday $35 with fees for handgun and $10 for the additional shotgun. Pickup in 9 days.

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              • #8
                Oceanbob
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                • Jun 2010
                • 12719

                Originally posted by PolishMike
                Not sure what that link was referring to.

                They are technically different DROS's. The first one costs the dealer $25 and then there is a "Add additional firearm to same person" (wording is off) and each one you run is $0 additional (says so on the bottom)

                The problem is if you exit out of it or switch pages you lose the option of adding more firearms.
                This^^^*

                Bought a Glock 41 a few days ago. At the last minute added a striped lower to the same DROS. Total cost for both: $25
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                • #9
                  SkyHawk
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  I have been doing multiple long guns on a single DROS all year, usually with a handgun. I have only paid $25 per DROS. I have done it several times and will do it several more this year. I picked up six or seven guns on one $25 DROS back in March.
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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44084

                    Originally posted by Condorguns
                    The quoted post was about a 30+ gun PPT. I think this thread is talking about a multiple dealer sale.
                    I haven't worked in a gun shop for a few years so I don't know the new system that started this year. Are you saying that new DROS system treats transfers differently if they come out of dealer's stock or not? and, the dealer is only charged once if the firearms being transferred all come from their stock but, if the firearms being transferred come from PPTs or other outside sources, the transferring dealer is charged from each one? Or, do you mean that the dealer will charge up to a $10 fee per extra firearm for the dealer to keep? I have no problem with paying $10 for each additional firearm as long as it's going to the dealer instead of the state.

                    Edit: On reviewing the other thread again, I think I now understand what you were saying. Correct me if I'm wrong. When transferring multiple firearms (either PPT, "internet" sales or from a dealer's stock) there is one DROS charge of $25 per the entire transfer and, if it is a PPT, the dealer can charge up to $10 more for the first gun. Then, for every firearm after the first one, a dealer can charge anything they want (most dealers charge nothing) if it from their stock. However, if the dealer is just transferring them and was not the seller (like a PPT), the dealer can charge up to $10 for each additional firearm they put through the system. Each firearm being transferred will have it's own DROS but, only the first one is requires payment to the state. Is that correct?
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                    • #11
                      Condorguns
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                      • Dec 2007
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                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      state.

                      Edit: On reviewing the other thread again, I think I now understand what you were saying. Correct me if I'm wrong. When transferring multiple firearms (either PPT, "internet" sales or from a dealer's stock) there is one DROS charge of $25 per the entire transfer and, if it is a PPT, the dealer can charge up to $10 more for the first gun. Then, for every firearm after the first one, a dealer can charge anything they want (most dealers charge nothing) if it from their stock. However, if the dealer is just transferring them and was not the seller (like a PPT), the dealer can charge up to $10 for each additional firearm they put through the system. Each firearm being transferred will have it's own DROS but, only the first one is requires payment to the state. Is that correct?
                      Here is what DOJ has to say

                      What fees do I charge in addition to the DROS? 20.What fees can I charge for handling a Private Party Transfer (PPT)?
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                      • #12
                        scotus
                        Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 162

                        Thanks. My situation is I'm buying one gun from a dealer out of state (a SxS shotgun from Cabelas) and another gun (Winchester 70 featherweight) directly from the gun store (though it is not in stock so they are ordering it from their distributor). I was figuring/hoping that if I waited for both to come in I could put them on the same DROS. And I was thinking for the heck of it to add a Mosin on at the end just to have one around to play with, but not if I need a third DROS for that.

                        I'm still not sure what I should be charged, but I think I need to have a talking-to with the gun shop. First off, they charged $35/DROS. Now it sounds like they are allowed to charge a dealer fee of whatever they want over the regular DROS fee of $25, but that needs to be disclosed separately, and not included in the DROS line item (which it was).

                        From what I gather, I could be charged as little as $25 for both guns, assuming I start DROS on them at the same time. Instead I'm being charged $70.... (and of note I am also being charged in addition a $65 fee for handling the FFL transfer, but most stores seem to have exorbitant prices for that). The employees at the shop are nice, but this kind of irks me (if I have it right). When I go in to start the DROS I am going to try to get this hashed out.

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                        • #13
                          RANCID 518th
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                          • #14
                            Condorguns
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                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3302

                            Yes, you need to talk to the shop. If you were buying from me I would have you DROS all at the same time. I would charge you $44+$25=$69 for the Internet transfer $44 is my Internet transfer fee, I keep that, $25 goes to the state. I could see them charging $10 for additional DROS, but not full price.
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                            • #15
                              Gutz
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                              • Jan 2013
                              • 4127

                              Parralax Tactical sucks dick. They had no idea what the **** they were talking about when I was there. They charged us $35 per gun.
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