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  • jfdodge
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 510

    Intrafamilial transfer

    I have a question on intrafamilial transfers. I currently have 34 various firearms in law enforcement custody due to a divorce. I spoke with an attorney regarding recovery of the items and was told I could do an intrafamilial transfer to a California based relative and have them recover the items. From my research on here, I am limited to 1 in 30 for the pistols, does anyone know 100% of that is true? Also, is it $19 per firearm or per packet I send them? If I can send in all of the rifles and 1 pistol on the form it would be somewhat quicker to recover, but would prefer to be able to do all of them in one shot to get them out sooner.
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  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    How long are they going to retain them takes a long time to get response from cadoj. You cannot just send money and docs and have them do legr. Relative must be son or daughter or father or mother.

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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30239

      Intra-familial only applies to a grandparent, parent, child, or grandchild relationship and does not include any in-law or step relations.

      As long as no CA FFL dealer is involved, there is no 1 in 30 day wait for an intra-familial firearm transfer.

      It is a $19 fee per report submission.
      ^Any number of firearms can be added to the report.

      It may take 6-24 months, after the payment is cashed in, for CA DOJ BOF to mail out an acknowledgement letter for a Report of Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction.
      ^Submitting it via CFARS, may be the fastest method and it will allow the person that submitted the report to check its status (pending, complete, etc) on a daily basis.

      After the report is completed, the immediate family member that submitted the report can then submit a LER via CFARS, in order to get authorization to have the firearms released to them.
      ^Effective 12-01-2021, the LER can only be submitted via CFARS and any paper LER submitted after 11-30-2021 will be rejected.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #4
        jfdodge
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 510

        Originally posted by Quiet
        Intra-familial only applies to a grandparent, parent, child, or grandchild relationship and does not include any in-law or step relations.

        As long as no CA FFL dealer is involved, there is no 1 in 30 day wait for an intra-familial firearm transfer.

        It is a $19 fee per report submission.
        ^Any number of firearms can be added to the report.

        It may take 6-24 months, after the payment is cashed in, for CA DOJ BOF to mail out an acknowledgement letter for a Report of Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction.
        ^Submitting it via CFARS, may be the fastest method and it will allow the person that submitted the report to check its status (pending, complete, etc) on a daily basis.

        After the report is completed, the immediate family member that submitted the report can then submit a LER via CFARS, in order to get authorization to have the firearms released to them.
        ^Effective 12-01-2021, the LER can only be submitted via CFARS and any paper LER submitted after 11-30-2021 will be rejected.
        It would be going up in the family tree, son to father.

        When submitting on the cfars site, can I simply submit a list in the file submission portion, or do I need to add them in the boxes above the file option? Either way, sounds like the fastest route will be to submit online so that I can check status.
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        • #5
          ASD1
          1/2 BANNED
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2012
          • 1793

          Have a FFL go pick them up ASAP.

          FFL can then transfer or sell to someone that can own them

          LE is not going to hold them for months.

          LE may charge you storage fees.
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          • #6
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            As usuall Quiet has right answers. He is one of our brighter ambulance chasers. (LOL) I thought it was LEGR Law Enforcement Gun Release>

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            • #7
              jfdodge
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 510

              Originally posted by ASD1
              Have a FFL go pick them up ASAP.

              FFL can then transfer or sell to someone that can own them

              LE is not going to hold them for months.

              LE may charge you storage fees.
              If I go thru an ffl, I have to file with court and payout for that, along with paying for storage fees there. Will also have to pay a higher fee to transfer them out of my name.
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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30239

                Originally posted by ASD1
                Have a FFL go pick them up ASAP.

                FFL can then transfer or sell to someone that can own them

                LE is not going to hold them for months.

                LE may charge you storage fees.
                I agree.

                After a certain length of time, a LE agency is suppose to destroy or dispose of the firearms they take into custody. [PC 34000-34010]

                LE agency can charge $20 for the initial firearm and $3 for each additional firearm or ammunition feeding device.

                The risk of doing an intra-familial transfer then LER is by the time it gets completed, the LE agency has already destroyed the firearms due to the length of time they can be held exceeding what is allowed under CA laws.

                Originally posted by edgerly779
                I thought it was LEGR Law Enforcement Gun Release>
                From 2019 through 2021, CA laws regarding return of a firearm from LE custody were amended several times.

                Effective 07-01-2021, the LEGR was replaced by the LER and the LER can only be submitted online via CFARS.
                Effective 12-01-2021, the LEGR were no longer valid applications and get automatically rejected.
                Last edited by Quiet; 06-09-2023, 3:52 PM.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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