AB-879 (Precursor Parts)

[EsotericEpsilon]

PC 16531(a)(2) = unfinished handgun frame

This could also apply to the SIG P320/365 series grip modules, since the grip module is an unfinished handgun frame that the firearm's receiver is installed in.

Well this stinks. I see how this would apply to 80% handgun builds. Knowing kalifornia, they probably would include the P320/365 grip module, because why not

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

That's what I can't seem to clearly locate, the definition of Precursor Parts.

I didn't get to have a detailed discussion with LGS on the phone because he sounded rushed when he answered the phone (I could hear people in background), so I'll call back for additional clarity.

When I squeezed in a quick ask "does this cover uppers, barrels, BCG," he responded "Yes." His response could have been rushed, so I'll call back.


Hope this scheme isn't like the ammunition transfer requirements.

The way I and many other have read it is it does not apply to those parts. From what I remember this was more geared to the 80% stuff.

[cz74]

State does not specifically define "precursor" parts on purpose. They can say whatever they want at anytime. I just hope I can still get my spare Tokarev parts on eBay like these one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353800342496

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353800342497

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State does not specifically define "precursor" parts on purpose. They can say whatever they want at anytime. I just hope I can still get my spare Tokarev parts on eBay like these one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353800342496

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353800342497

Incorrect.

The current CA legal definition of a "firearm precursor part" is...

Penal Code 16531
(a) As used in this part, “firearm precursor part” means a component of a firearm that is necessary to build or assemble a firearm and is described in either of the following categories:
(1) An unfinished receiver, including both a single part receiver and a multiple part receiver, such as a receiver in an AR-10- or AR-15-style firearm. An unfinished receiver includes a receiver tube, a molded or shaped polymer frame or receiver, a metallic casting, a metallic forging, and a receiver flat, such as a Kalashnikov-style weapons system, Kalashnikov-style receiver channel, or a Browning-style receiver side plate.
(2) An unfinished handgun frame.
(b) The Department of Justice, consistent with this section, shall provide written guidance and pictorial diagrams demonstrating each category of firearm precursor part specified in subdivision (a).
(c) Firearm parts that can only be used on antique firearms, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 16170, are not firearm precursor parts.
(d) A firearm precursor part is not a firearm or the frame or receiver thereof. A firearm precursor part that is attached or affixed to a firearm is not subject to the requirements of Chapter 1.5 (commencing with Section 30400) of Division 10 of Title 4 of Part 6 or Section 18010.

[ds272]

How long do we have to wait for the DOJ to complete this:
(b) The Department of Justice, consistent with this section, shall provide written guidance and pictorial diagrams demonstrating each category of firearm precursor part specified in subdivision (a).

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How long do we have to wait for the DOJ to complete this:
(b) The Department of Justice, consistent with this section, shall provide written guidance and pictorial diagrams demonstrating each category of firearm precursor part specified in subdivision (a).

If you go by past instances, the proposed regulations may be released around March or April of this year.

[ronlglock]

PC 16531(a)(2) = unfinished handgun frame

This could also apply to the SIG P320/365 series grip modules, since the grip module is an unfinished handgun frame that the firearm's receiver is installed in.

Doubtful that would fly. Unlike an 80% Glock frame which needs some finishing operations to work (the rails) and IS the serial numbered part, SIG P320/365 series grip modules were never meant to be the serial numbered part and are functionality complete after adding the serial numbered part.

[edgerly779]

Find the author of the bill with no witnesses around and use precursor parts as anal prophylaxis

[DDM4556]

I wouldn't be myself if I didn't interject with a stupid question.

Is there any reason to suspect sights/optics would be labeled in this crap?

[Capybara]

I wouldn't be myself if I didn't interject with a stupid question.

Is there any reason to suspect sights/optics would be labeled in this crap?

Not in this round. But just wait. I have no doubt that slings, optics, stocks, really any and every part will eventually be added to this list. Remember, you live in the state where freedom came to die, California. The majority of the populace has been programmed by the media to hate and fear lawful firearm owners and basically every politician with any power in this state wants to not only disarm us, they want the disarmament process to be as long, drawn out, humiliating, frustrating and painful as possible for us daring to not bow before them.

If they were efficient, they'd just shred and burn the Constitution live on TV and send the jackbooted thugs to every one of our doors to try to seize them all in one day. But they're worried that all of the gun battles and massive amount of bloody deaths would affect their re-election campaigns. So they'll do it through a thousand cuts. Because that's what politicians do.

Once you view every new firearms law in this state through this lens, it totally makes sense.

[bucody]

Armed Scholar posted a video on the upcoming matter. His interpretation is this will only apply to 80% parts. I know many of you already said that above, so sorry for any confusion:

https://youtu.be/4Rp_O8cVfIY

[blazeaglory]

Armed Scholar posted a video on the upcoming matter. His interpretation is this will only apply to 80% parts. I know many of you already said that above, so sorry for any confusion:

https://youtu.be/4Rp_O8cVfIY

Only apply to 80% parts meaning???

The only 80% "part" would be the frame no? Everything else is/are just parts. So get ready for vague definitions that could be applied or meaning everything from a metal flat(for a gun or not), springs, tubes, rods, etc...

I foresee much abuse from this and many lawsuits. I mean considering you can make grease guns with just parts from Home Depot, they might be the next big bust LMAO!!

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CA DOJ BOF Firearm Precursor Part Definitions and Guidebook website

The CA DOJ BOF proposed regulations can be found at the above linked website.

This thread is being closed until the regulation are finalized.