300 Blackout for hunting Hog & Deer (hunting noob?)

[Tactical_Fudd]

Hello CG.

I recently build a AR chambered in 300 blackout. My goal was to hunt hog next year.
From what i read, i thought 300 blackout would be a good choice, but after more research, i am finding that 300 is just barely enough?

What are your thoughts? Has anyone taken hogs with 300 blackout here?
I was planning on using a guide service, and prolly shooting around 100 yards or less.

Also, who makes 300blackout lead free?

Thanks for the help.

[Imageview]

It's not ideal, but it should be functional with proper shot placement and reasonable ranges. Ballistically similar to a 357 mag out of a rifle at sub 100 yards, although smaller diameter. Should have a little more go that 357 at longer ranges, but I'd worry about expansion because velocity isn't great. Barnes, Hornady, federal all have made loaded lead free ammo.

Smaller hogs, short shots, plenty of trigger time in hunting shooting positions.

[yoteassasin]

You are fine just Learn how to shoot it I’ve seen plenty of pig wounded by a 270 that would have handily fallen to my 223. I hunted exclusively with a mini 14 as a teenager and never had any issues on pigs or deer

[bigboarstopper]

Choose a caliber that cleanly and ethically kills the largest the species your hunting has to offer at the furthest distances your competent shooting.

[Divernhunter]

^^^ And not just from an ideal shot angle/placement. Make sure it will do so from an less than ideal position of the animal. When hunting you do not always(rarely) get the ideal shot. Less than ideal shot are more often than perfect ones

[NapalmCheese]

I mean it'll kill stuff, but it wouldn't be in my top ten choices if I were building a hunting rifle.

[Boarhuntor]

Planty of valuable info can be found here

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1673801&highlight=222

[Trapper]

You may want to check with a local guide to verify they allow hunting with a 300 aac. With the right ammunition it should be fine out to 100 yds. Buy a range finder to verify the distance before shooting, and you’ll need to wait until the animal is in position for a good broadside shot.
I’ve taken pigs with a bow and with a muzzle loader at distances less than 50 yards, it can be done but would be easier with a heavier caliber.

[hermosabeach]

It’s sounds like you already are committed to 300 black

If not, take a look at 458 socom

Standard 45 caliber bullets
Quite a thumper


To me, 300 black was a suppressor cartridge. Great round to shoot subsonic with a muffler/ can/ suppressor in a state that allows it.


The socom can launch a 200-450 grain projectile and probably is a better round for hunting hogs and such.

[tyler_sti]

I have a nice handload with barnes 120gr that I thoroughly trust to 200yrds on a husky blacktail. A HUGE factor you didn't mention especially with 300blk is barrel length.

[Tactical_Fudd]

Its a 16" CMMG Barrel.

[tyler_sti]

Its a 16" CMMG Barrel.

Ok Nice man. I'm getting 21xxfps out of a 10.5! with the barnes 120gr and I haven't even worked that load up to pressure. With a 16" you will be dropping what ever you hit in the kill zone no problem. Also just food for thought I am also getting MOA or better with my 10.5 setup with an eotech red dot. So the bullets and the cartridge is capable of accuracy and stopping power.

I choose to build a 300blk pistol for all around, defense and a reasonably light semi auto hunting gun. By far my favorite AR I own by a long shot. Good luck with yours man. Pm me if you want any load data recommendations etc.

[NapalmCheese]

1. 7mm-08
2. .243
3. .308
4. .30-06
5. 8x57
6. .257 Roberts
7. .25-06
8. .25 WSSM
9. 7.62x54R
10. 6.5CM
11. .270
12. .30-30

Cartridges I would choose for hunting pigs over .300 blk. Pretty much all of them but the .30-30 can push an expanding copper bullet over 3000 fps.

It's not that .300 won't kill them, it's that your bullet choices suck. In CA you have the 110 grain TAC-TX and the 110 grain TTSX if you want to get any reasonable muzzle velocity, reasonable being MAYBE 2400 fps. The TAC-TX was designed for the .300 blk and expands at lower velocities than the TTSX (or so I've heard). At the end of the day, a slow moving .30 caliber expanding copper projectile isn't a recipe for anchoring game. You could choose some hokey fracturing copper round but all you're doing is combining the worst parts of a partition style bullet with the worst parts of an expanding copper bullet.

Why would I chose a .30-30 over the .300 blk? Because the .30-30 carries more energy and should out penetrate the .300 blk out to 200 or so yards, but even a .30-30 wouldn't be in my top choices for hunting pigs in CA. That being said, people carrying .30-30s in the woods are statistically proven by government authorities to be more attractive and better lovers than those carrying .300 blk.

[yoteassasin]

1. 7mm-08
2. .243
3. .308
4. .30-06
5. 8x57
6. .257 Roberts
7. .25-06
8. .25 WSSM
9. 7.62x54R
10. 6.5CM
11. .270
12. .30-30

Cartridges I would choose for hunting pigs over .300 blk. Pretty much all of them but the .30-30 can push an expanding copper bullet over 3000 fps.

It's not that .300 won't kill them, it's that your bullet choices suck. In CA you have the 110 grain TAC-TX and the 110 grain TTSX if you want to get any reasonable muzzle velocity, reasonable being MAYBE 2400 fps. The TAC-TX was designed for the .300 blk and expands at lower velocities than the TTSX (or so I've heard). At the end of the day, a slow moving .30 caliber expanding copper projectile isn't a recipe for anchoring game. You could choose some hokey fracturing copper round but all you're doing is combining the worst parts of a partition style bullet with the worst parts of an expanding copper bullet.

Why would I chose a .30-30 over the .300 blk? Because the .30-30 carries more energy and should out penetrate the .300 blk out to 200 or so yards, but even a .30-30 wouldn't be in my top choices for hunting pigs in CA. That being said, people carrying .30-30s in the woods are statistically proven by government authorities to be more attractive and better lovers than those carrying .300 blk.

Why on earth is 3k fps some magical recipe? The hollow cavity Barnes 357s kill them Just fine running less than 1500 fps. Plenty of guys kill pigs with 6.8spc and 6.5 Grendel's . I've killed over 50 with a .223 . And I've got a trapper friend that killed over 100 in 2 years with a 17wsm on a depred permit .
At 100 yards i think the only cartridge I'd advise against is a 22lr

[Bainter1212]

Yeah I have considered a 300 BLK pistol length upper to hunt suppressed from a tree stand and not alert my neighbors. The shots wouldn't be over 50 yds for me.

If I couldn't use a suppressor I would choose a different caliber.