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  • Toy4Rick
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    • Oct 2010
    • 269

    Firearm Safety Certificate - FSC - Ask questions here only

    Happy New Years everyone,

    So my DROS is up today on a new Daniel Defense AR-15 and guess what, my FFL can't get online to take his portion of the FSC so I can't get my toy today.

    Looks like it will be into next week before I can complete the transaction.

    What a cluster, sure would have been nice if they would have let the FFLs get their portion done before Jan 1 but nooooo, that would be way to logical

    Oh well, so much for a 10 day wait

    Rick
  • #2
    LeftHand-Fu
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Mar 2013
    • 388

    Dang, sorry to hear that. It's going to take a while for this to start working right.

    For those of you with hunting licenses, that and the old HSC will exempt you from the FSC.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
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      • Sep 2012
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      Originally posted by TargetMaven
      Dang, sorry to hear that. It's going to take a while for this to start working right.

      For those of you with hunting licenses, that and the old HSC will exempt you from the FSC.

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      The old HSC will only exempt you for handgun purchases. Long gun purchase still need FSC, hunting license, CCW or some other exemption like LEO.

      FAQs What is the Firearm Safety Certificate Program? What are the exemptions from the Firearm Safety Certificate requirement? If I already have a Handgun Safety Certificate, will I still need a Firearm Safety Certificate? Will I need a Firearm Safety Certificate if I begin a long gun transaction prior to January 1, 2015, but don’t take possession of the long gun until after December 31, 2014? Can I get a Firearm Safety Certificate prior to January 1, 2015? How will I be able to obtain a Firearm Safety Certificate? How much will the Firearm Safety Certificate cost?


      If I already have a Handgun Safety Certificate, will I still need a Firearm Safety Certificate?
      A valid HSC can still be used to purchase/acquire handguns until it expires. For long gun purchases/acquisitions made January 1, 2015, and thereafter, an FSC will be required. An FSC can be used for both handgun and long gun purchases/acquisitions.
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      • #4
        LeftHand-Fu
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Mar 2013
        • 388

        Originally posted by Sky.Hawk
        The old HSC will only exempt you for handgun purchases. Long gun purchase still need FSC, hunting license, CCW or some other exemption like LEO.

        http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fscpfaqs#3G
        The relevant FAQ does send you off to regs about CCW and LEO exemptions, but the hunting license thing will be the main aggravation saver for most. At a price.

        FAQs What is the Firearm Safety Certificate Program? What are the exemptions from the Firearm Safety Certificate requirement? If I already have a Handgun Safety Certificate, will I still need a Firearm Safety Certificate? Will I need a Firearm Safety Certificate if I begin a long gun transaction prior to January 1, 2015, but don’t take possession of the long gun until after December 31, 2014? Can I get a Firearm Safety Certificate prior to January 1, 2015? How will I be able to obtain a Firearm Safety Certificate? How much will the Firearm Safety Certificate cost?


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        Last edited by LeftHand-Fu; 01-01-2015, 12:56 PM. Reason: Clarity. Typos. Never trying to post using a phone again...
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        • #5
          Cool Gun Wife
          Junior Member
          • May 2009
          • 80

          I was able to access the system, update my CI profile, download all documents and issue an FSC today. It was all easy. The test is basic, and the safety demo is not challenging if one has even a modest amount of experience.

          CIs can add applications to a cart and pay for several at one time and then print the FSC docs.

          I am saving downloads of each FSC I issue so they can be reprinted in case of loss.
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          • #6
            LeftHand-Fu
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Mar 2013
            • 388

            Thanks for the reassurance. Is there an FSC question guide available for download by the buying public yet? I'm only able to find the old HSC online.
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            • #7
              Aragorn
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 354

              I picked up my Colt 6940 on 12/31/14, sans all this FSC bull. I expect major glitches in the system but sure hope for the rest of you it comes up online quickly. This was my last PROC purchase. The FSC was the proverbial last straw for me.

              Now I get to have fun researching optics and gear for this, my first AR platform rifle. Plan to get out to FS for a rifle class soon too.
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              • #8
                Condorguns
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                • Dec 2007
                • 3302

                Been issuing FSC's all morning. So far other than the system being a little slow it has run well.
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                • #9
                  Aragorn
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                  • Feb 2013
                  • 354

                  That's great to hear Condorguns. Hope it continues to run smoothly.
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                  • #10
                    kapache
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                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2595

                    I have my hunting license so that exempts me from taking the test unless I purchase a hand gun on which I have the original safety certificate.

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                    • #11
                      Cool Gun Wife
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 80

                      Here is a link to the study guide - can be downloaded as a pdf. http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...rms/hscsg.pdf?

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                      • #12
                        Cool Gun Wife
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 80

                        Also, from the FSC FAQs -

                        I have and HSC, do I need an FSC?


                        A valid HSC can still be used to purchase/acquire handguns until it expires. For long gun purchases/acquisitions made January 1, 2015, and thereafter, an FSC will be required. An FSC can be used for both handgun and long gun purchases/acquisitions.
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                        • #13
                          Matt P
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3061

                          How about a link to Log In for FSC instructors please.....
                          I have tried searches and other means to find the log in for this.

                          I should know it's location but I do not.
                          Thanking in advance.

                          Oh, I noticed Hunting License only an exemption from FSC as long as purchasing long guns. Handgun purchases would need another exemption or issuance of the card itself.
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                          • #14
                            LeftHand-Fu
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 388

                            Originally posted by Cool Gun Wife
                            Here is a link to the study guide - can be downloaded as a pdf. http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...rms/hscsg.pdf?

                            Sorry I could not make it pretty
                            Thanks! They left the filename the same (starting with "h" for "handgun"), and that may be causing Google some confusion.
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                            • #15
                              fairfaxjim
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                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2146

                              Originally posted by Matt P
                              How about a link to Log In for FSC instructors please.....
                              I have tried searches and other means to find the log in for this.

                              I should know it's location but I do not.
                              Thanking in advance.

                              Oh, I noticed Hunting License only an exemption from FSC as long as purchasing long guns. Handgun purchases would need another exemption or issuance of the card itself.


                              You can log on there if you have a user name and password emails from the DOJ
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