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  • Eight O Clock
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    • May 2010
    • 72

    will standard 7.62x39 penetrate bullet proof vest ?

    I was watching a show on the North Hollywood shoot out and the bad guys were using 7.62x39 rounds in an SKS and AK-47 I believe. They said the bullets would tear through a cops vest like it was nothing.

    Does that mean they had special ammo or would standard Wolf ammo do that just the same ?

    They also said the rounds were cutting through police cars like butter.
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    bluestaterebel
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 3052

    YES
    Originally posted by 11Z50
    Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

    Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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    • #3
      bluestaterebel
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 3052

      Pretty much any rifle round will go through bullet proof vests
      Originally posted by 11Z50
      Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

      Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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      • #4
        bombadillo
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 14810

        police class III balistic kevlar is only meant to stop handgun rounds in reality.

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        • #5
          Turo
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2009
          • 5066

          Originally posted by bluestaterebel
          Pretty much any rifle round will go through bullet proof vests
          This is slightly misleading. There are multiple levels of bullet proof vests, and while many rifle caliber rounds can penetrate the lower levels (I, II, and some III) There are vests specifically made to stop rifle rounds, along with ceramic plates that help tremendously.

          Just make sure you are more careful making blanket statements, as they can easily be interpreted incorrectly.
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          • #6
            Noobert
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3341

            To quote box o' truth, "Pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles". Their vest may stop a pistol but not a 7.62
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            • #7
              Stanze
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              • Oct 2005
              • 3301

              AK-47 vs. Level IIIA Armor.

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              • #8
                Unit74
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2359

                Bullet resistant is more of an accurate description.

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                • #9
                  SJgunguy24
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                  • May 2008
                  • 14849

                  Originally posted by Unit74
                  Bullet resistant is more of an accurate description.
                  I was gonna go there but thanks for saving me the trouble.
                  Level and 3a are rated for heavy handgun rounds. Level 3 is rated for rifle rounds, now thats only 1-2 hits before failure. Then there's level 4 which is rated for multible hits from 7.62 class rifles.
                  Any centerfire round will zip right through and of the 1-2-3a vests.
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                  • #10
                    tombinghamthegreat
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2785

                    Standard police vest might stop some handguns, it more than likely will not stop most rifle calibers. In the case of the 7.62, it will defeat commonly used vests.
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                    • #11
                      nick
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 19151

                      Originally posted by bombadillo
                      police class III balistic kevlar is only meant to stop handgun rounds in reality.
                      Class IIIa, to be sure.
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                      • #12
                        hlcarbine
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 241

                        I have shot at level 3 ballistic vest inserts and handguns are stopped but rifle rounds go straight through. I shot 223, 7.62 x 39, 7.62x54, 22-250, 6.8 spc and all went straight through.
                        I will say that even with a vest on I wouldn't want to get hit by any caliber round. After about 10 .40sw rounds the vest was real beat up. It looked like it caved in the middle even though it stopped all ten.

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                        • #13
                          CSDGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3763

                          An NIJ Level III vest will protect you against a .308 147gr FMJ bullet doing about 2780 fps.

                          That round will penetrate any Level IIIa or below, probably like the vest wasn't even there.

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                          • #14
                            SkiDevil
                            Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 336

                            Originally posted by Eight O Clock
                            North Hollywood shoot out . . . the bad guys were using 7.62x39 rounds in AK-47s. . . .

                            Does that mean they had special ammo or would standard Wolf ammo do that just the same ?
                            The two North Hollywood Bandits/ A******S used ARMOR PIERCING AMMO in full auto AKM/ AK-47 type rifles. It was rumored that the rifles were brought-in from Mexico.

                            ANY Body Armor can fail. Hence the phrase "Bullet Resistant."

                            It has happened in the past and will happen in the future.

                            Even armor rated for rifle rounds can fail as well. Best tactic IF possible is to stay out of the line of fire, when feasible.

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                            • #15
                              HotRails
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1491

                              Originally posted by SkiDevil
                              The two North Hollywood Bandits/ A******S used ARMOR PIERCING AMMO in full auto AKM/ AK-47 type rifles. It was rumored that the rifles were brought-in from Mexico.

                              ANY Body Armor can fail. Hence the phrase "Bullet Resistant."

                              It has happened in the past and will happen in the future.

                              Even armor rated for rifle rounds can fail as well. Best tactic IF possible is to stay out of the line of fire, when feasible.
                              I still marvel to this day that no one except the perps died that day!

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