Rock Island VR80

[M60A1Rise]

Since they are not considered large capacity magazines; they are legal to import, make, transfer, and possess in CA.

CA assault weapons laws do not limit the capacity of a fixed magazine on a shotgun.

Thanks I get confused about the shotgun law and being this one is imported I thought it made a difference. Sometime back I wanted to extend the tube on a 20g I used to own and someone was saying it was n't legal because it was imported and I had to change out parts.

ETA: I do understand the fixed mag part is why this is legal ?

[Quiet]

Thanks I get confused about the shotgun law and being this one is imported I thought it made a difference. Sometime back I wanted to extend the tube on a 20g I used to own and someone was saying it was n't legal because it was imported and I had to change out parts.

ETA: I do understand the fixed mag part is why this is legal ?

Federal laws/regulations limits the magazine capacity of imported shotguns to 5 rounds.
If you want to legally increase the capacity to greater than 5 rounds, then the shotgun can not have more than 10 foreign made parts.
Not complying with the parts counts violates Federal laws and has no bearing on CA laws.

CA laws/regulations only requires the magazine on semi-auto shotguns to be fixed in such a manner that it can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or it is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

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Since they are not considered large capacity magazines; they are legal to import, make, transfer, and possess in CA.

CA assault weapons laws do not limit the capacity of a fixed magazine on a shotgun.

I was like what?

Checking older posts on this site -everybody’s always saying even in the tubular mag -which is of course fixed -10 rounds max.

Looks like that is wrong.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

“A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
"Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
"Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
"Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.”

It’s a little harder to see because my copy and paste does not show the governments number and letter sections but the capacity to except 10 rounds definition is really being applied to the pistol and rifle portion of the assault weapons laws that precede(I omitted that part)-not shotgun. It just happens to be posted after the shotgun definition so it kind of makes it look like it applies to the shotguns but it doesn’t does it?

[M60A1Rise]

Thanks Quiet , like I said confusing lol.

[Quiet]

I was like what?

Checking older posts on this site -everybody’s always saying even in the tubular mag -which is of course fixed -10 rounds max.

Looks like that is wrong.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

“A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
"Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
"Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
"Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.”

It’s a little harder to see because my copy and paste does not show the governments number and letter sections but the capacity to except 10 rounds definition is really being applied to the pistol and rifle portion of the assault weapons laws that precede(I omitted that part)-not shotgun. It just happens to be posted after the shotgun definition so it kind of makes it look like it applies to the shotguns but it doesn’t does it?

Two separate issues.

1. CA assault weapons laws.
These CA laws does not limit the magazine capacity for shotguns.

2. CA large capacity magazine laws.
These CA laws prohibits the importing, making, and transfer of all magazines that have a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.
These CA laws applies to semi-auto shotguns, bolt-action shotguns, pump-action shotguns, and lever-action shotguns that do not have fixed tubular magazines.
These CA laws does not apply to fixed tubular magazines on lever-action shotguns.

The CA large capacity magazine laws is the reason why it is CA illegal to increase the capacity of a fixed magazine on a semi-auto shotgun or bolt-action shotgun or pump-action shotgun to be greater than 10 rounds, after 12-31-2000.
^It's considered illegal manufacturing of a large capacity magazine.

[IsaacMc]

I have 2 of the nine rouders, all good

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[IsaacMc]

correct and the VR80 from turners has the Hogue freedom fighter fixed mag kit installed

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After looking at the only "plus size (LOL)" mag I could find on this(19 rounder pictured below),I think I'll stick with the 5's and 9's if I pick one of these boomsticks.

Ya might poke out an eye or somethin' with this one:

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I have 2 of the nine rouders, all good

Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?

[FlyingShooter]

Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?

I also have have a 9rd mag. They are factory mags.

You can check ebay or buy from AdvancedTactical.com

They are pricy though, come to about $50+ shipped from either site. They are heavy, so it’s the shipping that gets you. They run flawless though, and are about the same length as an AR 30rnd mag.

[IsaacMc]

http://gregcotellc.com/cart/armscorr...63-p-1934.html

Who made your nine rounders and where did you buy them from?

They are the VR60 Factory mags and I have 2 from here.. Works flawless with the VR80

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Thanks guys!

[357manny]

Wow. never heard of the VR80 until this thread came up. And I never felt the urge to have a 12g shotgun. But damn, this looks pretty sweet. and $649!?!

[Scjon03]