SKS C&R Status

[dfletcher]

For no particular reason, am looking at buying an SKS. I have a C&R license, hitting a few gun shows and out of state stores, would like to do the "cash & carry" with my license.

I don't know much about the SKS re C&R status. In similar fashion as with Smiths - all "5 screws" are C&R eligible or Colt New Service are +50 years old, Winchester 94s "pre-64" and such. Is there any such thing as "all Yugo SKS" are eligible, Type 56 are" etc? Is there any sort of blanket way of telling status?

Getting push back re C&R FFL use sometimes happens, so I like making it clear and clean that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to eligibility. Had to recently do alot of convincing that a Ruger Flat Top qualified, I want to be sure that a) what I'm buying qualifies and b) can speak clearly about status if needed.

[mycrstuff]

You have to remember that not all SKSs are C&R eligible. Some are on the C&R list and some are not. As for the 50yr rule there are no verified dates of manufacture for most types of SKS so a dealer will be hesitant to say that one is C&R. The Yugos with the grenade launcher cut off or replaced with a muzzle break are not C&R due to the modifications. The Chinese made the military ones up until 1990 and civilians into the 90's those are not C&R due to being less than 50 years old.

[SVT-40]

What country made the particular SKS? That determines a lot. But you can look at the BATFE's Curio & Relic list on line which may help.

If it's a Chinese made SKS only the recent Chinese made Albanian imports are considered to be C&R's by the BATFE.

The post above related to the grenade launcher being removed from the Yugo 59/66 rifles isn't correct. Removing the grenade launcher on the muzzle does nothing to the status of the rifle as a C&R. Oh, and the BATFE considers all Yugo M59 and M59/66 types to be C&R's. They are specifically listed in the BATFE's list of C&R firearms.

All Romanian made SKS 's are listed in the BATFE's C&R list.

All Russian made SKS's are listed as C&R's in the BATFE's C&R list.

All Albanian made SKS's are listed as C&R's in the BATFE's C&R list.

[dfletcher]

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Thanks very much - I'll check the C&R list and be sure to carry my cell phone for reference.

[echo1]

The only Chinese rifles that the BTAF recognizes for dating are from arsenal /26\, with a numerical prefix of "18" ahead of the serial number or less, (I think). You may find that many 01s are in the dark about dating C&R and bayo attachment with Chinese guns. PAX

[SVT-40]

The only Chinese rifles that the BTAF recognizes for dating are from arsenal /26\, with a numerical prefix of "18" ahead of the serial number or less, (I think). You may find that many 01s are in the dark about dating C&R and bayo attachment with Chinese guns. PAX

Not so on the serial numbers. I got this C&R Albanian import Chinese type 56 carbine from Sportsman's whorehouse two years ago. It's SN starts with "14".

[echo1]

I really have no idea what the BTAF base line date is for Chinese C&R qualification. PAX

[dfletcher]

I guess I can allow my own thread drift - duckbills a waste of time for detach magazines? The gun is not coming to CA.

[highpower]

I guess I can allow my own thread drift - duckbills a waste of time for detach magazines? The gun is not coming to CA.

IMO, the only SKS's that work properly with detachable magazines are the SKS-M variant. From what I have read, the Chinese did quite a bit of machining in order to get a AK mag to fit and function properly. I know my M model functions 100% and it is my favorite one to shoot.

As Echo1 mentioned, my understanding is the factory 26 made rifles are the only ones that can be reliably dated and even at that, there are some that doubt if the whole prefix number thing is accurate. I would say that any unaltered factory made Chinese SKS with a blade bayonet is absolutely going to be C&R as the last year for that style was 1965, (or "9" prefix.) Since all paratrooper models were modified from existing stocks of rifles, it is possible to get a para model that would have been C&R, except that since it was modified, they are magically no longer eligible.

Yesterday I picked up just such an example, a Paratrooper that was originally made in 1965 and converted to a para. Oddly, the original stock was a blade bayonet style and was modified for a spike.

[Dan_Eastvale]

the Survivors' SKS Boards shows the following for Arsenal 26:

Serial numbers,

under 1 million under (999,999) is first year of production 1956
1 million (1,555,555) 1957
2 million (2,555,555) 1958
3 million (3,555,555) 1959

10 million (10,555,555) 1966

20 million (20,555,555) 1976

25 million (25,555,555) 1981


But agencies here don't believe this.

[dfletcher]

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Thanks very much. There are two Chinese made sitting up in OR, will check out serial numbers.

If it doesn't get snowed out am doing the Reno show this weekend.

[dfletcher]

I have this one on hold in OR. Am supposing it's not C&R eligible.


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Even if it's not, for $399.00 I'll wait.

The side rail has me a bit confused. It doesn't take an AK rail. I was told the importer added it and have seen others with the same. May be putting lipstick on a pig, but I'd like to have a little PPU type scope attached for fun.

[highpower]

I have this one on hold in OR. Am supposing it's not C&R eligible.


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Even if it's not, for $399.00 I'll wait.

The side rail has me a bit confused. It doesn't take an AK rail. I was told the importer added it and have seen others with the same. May be putting lipstick on a pig, but I'd like to have a little PPU type scope attached for fun.

I believe that is what the importer called the “cowboy companion” model. From what I have been able to gather, the scope mount is some sort of a proprietary thing and they are currently pretty much unobtainable.

[dfletcher]

I believe that is what the importer called the “cowboy companion” model. From what I have been able to gather, the scope mount is some sort of a proprietary thing and they are currently pretty much unobtainable.

"Cowboy Companion" is what I heard also. The rail is pretty thin and pretty sure it was unique to whomever imported - importer is KSI (or KBI) from Pomona, CA.

Unobtanium gives me a reason to go to the gun shows, even in CA. I found a case of 41 AE ammo and reloading for 41 Rimfire - how difficult can a scope base be?

[echo1]

I believe that is what the importer called the “cowboy companion” model. From what I have been able to gather, the scope mount is some sort of a proprietary thing and they are currently pretty much unobtainable.

It's a KSI Hunter with the rail to nowhere. No known mount fits it. The CC has a type 89 mount. Here's a picture of both rifles. PAX
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Cowboys Companion