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  • kenworth1114
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    • Jan 2009
    • 332

    223 &556 ??

    I am getting a 223 bolt action rifle and was told it will fire 5.56 also ,is that correct?,thanks for the help.The gun in question is a model 25 savage 223 remington
    Last edited by kenworth1114; 02-16-2011, 5:26 PM.
  • #2
    Baconator
    Bacon makes it better
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    • Jan 2009
    • 9540

    556 will shoot .223 but not necessarily the other way around.

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    • #3
      ChrisTKHarris
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4203

      It depends on the rifle. If it is chambered in 5.56 you can use either 556/223, but if chambered in .223 it most likely is NOT designed to fire the higher pressurized 5.56 cartridge.
      Don't let the name fool you...

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        slick_711
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        • Feb 2006
        • 4400

        Originally posted by kenworth1114
        I am getting a 223 bolt action rifle and was told it will fire 5.56 also ,is that correct?,thanks for the help.
        You could probably get away with shooting 5.56, and that's probably what the salesman told you, but it's not advisable. Go by what the BARREL is stamped. If it says 5.56 you're good for both, if it says .223 REM stick with .223.

        5.56 is usually more expensive and lighter projectiles anyway, so there is really no point in shooting it through a bolt gun.

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          kenworth1114
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          • Jan 2009
          • 332

          thanks to all for the information

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          • #6
            mqd123
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 81

            DON'T shoot 5.56 rounds with your .223 rifle. You CAN shoot .223 round with your 5.56 rifle.

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            • #7
              slick_711
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 4400

              Originally posted by mqd123
              DON'T shoot 5.56 rounds with your .223 rifle. You CAN shoot .223 round with your 5.56 rifle.
              Dear Sir,

              You are

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              • #8
                rromeo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2009
                • 6981

                Is it 223 Remington or 223 Wylde? If it's Wylde, you can also shoot 5.56.
                Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                • #9
                  slick_711
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 4400

                  Originally posted by rromeo
                  Is it 223 Remington or 223 Wylde? If it's Wylde, you can also shoot 5.56.
                  I've never seen a bolt gun with a Wylde chamber, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The problem is, the 5.56 chamber is potentially less accurate with .223Rem ammo given the throat dimensions. With the rare exception (Mk262), 5.56 ammo is lighter projectiles and more expensive ammo (.mil quality control and .mil fanboys drive up market prices), so there is really zero advantage to chambering a bolt gun in 5.56... .223 Wylde may not be a bad idea for the sake of safety and ammo availability in a last ditch situation, but still doesn't really make sense from the perspective of a bench or hunting rifle.

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                  • #10
                    OHW
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 386

                    Why doesn't the OP tell us WHAT rifle he is looking at? WHAT brand , WHAT model, then we can put this nonsense to rest.

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                    • #11
                      Army
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3915

                      It's kinda hard to find bolt guns chambered in 5.56. If it's .223 (and likely will be), don't worry.
                      "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                      • #12
                        OHW
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 386

                        Originally posted by Army
                        It's kinda hard to find bolt guns chambered in 5.56. If it's .223 (and likely will be), don't worry.
                        Don't worry what? Are you saying it is OK to shoot 5.56 in a .223 bolt gun?

                        I mwant the OP to lay it out, what kind of gun is it? If there is a 5.56 bolt gun I would be interested to know.

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                        • #13
                          slick_711
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          That is all.

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                          • #14
                            Divernhunter
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                            • May 2010
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                            Millions of 5.56 rounds have been fired in 223 chambered rifles with no problems. I have a T/C Encore pistol/Rem700/mini14 that have had thousands of 5.56 shot thru them. No problems. This is also true for a bunch of friends firearms also. I think some people get overly worried about this. This seems to be especially true with newbies and people who have less expierence.

                            If some of you are so worried you can send me your 5.56 ammo and I will make it safe then send you the empties back.

                            My 2 Cents
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                              slick_711
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 4400

                              Originally posted by Divernhunter
                              Millions of 5.56 rounds have been fired in 223 chambered rifles with no problems. I have a T/C Encore pistol/Rem700/mini14 that have had thousands of 5.56 shot thru them. No problems. This is also true for a bunch of friends firearms also. I think some people get overly worried about this. This seems to be especially true with newbies and people who have less expierence.

                              If some of you are so worried you can send me your 5.56 ammo and I will make it safe then send you the empties back.

                              My 2 Cents
                              I agree that it is highly unlikely to be an issue. I only have one stash of 5.56/.223 ammo for my ARs and bolt gun and it's all separated by load, but none of it is separated by "official caliber." Most modern firearms are beefy anyway, and manufacturers know that the two cartridges are beside each other on ammo shelves.

                              That said, there is a difference between the two, however minute, and people who own rifles chambered in one or both caliber should know that so that in the event they have an issue they are aware it is their own darn fault and the manufacturer is not liable.

                              Also, your Mini-14 is a 5.56.

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