Opinions wanted: Kel Tec SU16 or OLL AR

[WokMaster1]

$300 - SOLD!!! PM me and she's yours. I can really use the safe space.

-Grant

PM sent!

[thefinger]

AR15.

the SU16 is ugly and feels like the Nerf gun I had when I was 10.

[RobG]

That wasn't much of a contest. I did get a chance to see the KT locally and gotta say feels flimsy and cheaply made, definitely not worth the 630.00 asking price.

Thanks for all the opinions.

[Q]

this is how I would rate the ca legal (approved) list for 223 in ar or su16.
best to worst.
1. ca legal factory pinned vulcan v-15
2. ca legal factory flush magwell bushmaster carbon 15
3. fab 10
4. kel tec su-16s
5. evan's welded magwell on banned colts

[zippo]

I just sold all my ar part and still have high cap mag. I plan to get kel-tel because is can use what part I have (mag).
and I do not plan to shoot like 1' at 200 yard just fun shooting that all I want, kel-tel seen to fit my plan.
is all up to U that what U want , want to be a markman get AR just fun shooting get SU-16 .
that is my idea
zippo

[diegojosh]

I just sold all my ar part and still have high cap mag. I plan to get kel-tel because is can use what part I have (mag).
and I do not plan to shoot like 1' at 200 yard just fun shooting that all I want, kel-tel seen to fit my plan.
is all up to U that what U want , want to be a markman get AR just fun shooting get SU-16 .
that is my idea
zippo

you sold your AR for a SU-16?!

[DV8]

You guys are funny, vietnam, battle rifle blah blah blah Since when are you ever going to take your rifle into battle or to vietnam? Are you Chuck Norris?

I'm not saying the SU is on par with the AR because its not. It was great before all this OLL stuff happened because you could use you old AR mags and it was another alternative to the mini.

If you're paranoid get the SU and use those regular cap mags you stashed away before the ban. If not, get the AR and experience what the rest of free America has. If you want cheap and reliable get a Saiga/AK

[tenpercentfirearms]

My SU16 never fed correctly. I was always having malfunctions. As soon as the OLL blew up, I sold it and never looked back. That same ammo that was jamming in my SU16 now shoots out of my OLLs no problem.

[Richie Rich]

In ARFcom fashion I have to say.

GET BOTH!!!

I did

I must be one of the lucky ones, I have about 5-600 rounds thru my SU16CA and other then the very first round not firing, no problems since.

Not using the factory mags..

[maxicon]

I have both, and for a range gun, you can't beat the AR if you don't mind the extra money. You can also have different uppers that swap in no time for different uses, as well as a near-infinite number of accessories (costing a near-infinite amount of $$).

There's nothing wrong with the SU16 - it's essentially the Mini 14 for the 21st century - and it has some advantages over a typical AR in cost, weight, compactness, and simplicity. If I wanted a trunk gun or something to pack out in times of need, the SU16 has the upper hand there.

For an accurate range gun, though, the AR's a clear winner.

[sorensen440]

I want a fun shooter with good accuracy but, I also don't want to raise eyebrows every time I hit a range.

The KT would be a CA model with a short fore end and the OLL would be something with a 16 or 18 barrel with a "varmint" style set-up rather than an A4 style. Scoped with ?? at this time.

Price difference will be in the 3-400 range I am guessing.

All opinions are appreciated.

if you plan on scoping it I deffinatly recomend against the su-16
(defeats the point of what I consider to be a great backpack gun)

[shark92651]

I bought an SU-16CA before I found out about OLL's. I also had FTE issues with my Kel-Tec, but I replaced the extractor with a bushmaster extractor assembly (around $15) and I haven't experienced any issues since. If you don't want (or can't afford) to own both, I would recommend an OLL. I want every gun owner in California to own an OLL. The more common they are the less likely we will hear about the occasional confiscation, the dropping of charges, the eventual return of the rifle, etc...

[Rivet]

No vote for XRC? The best of both worlds in my opinion.

[CA SHOOTER]

Like a couple others have said get both .
Here are mine ...

[C.G.]

Yup, get both.