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Steyr AUG worth it? Or buy something cheaper?
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Originally posted by FjoldI've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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Its an apples to oranges comparison, I know. However, since I don't shoot a lot, and have a few lowers to build up. I'm going to purchase a new rifle before the deadline. I'm debating between a Steyr Aug and a Century C308. If I get the Steyr, I will probably still have to pay for optics since the ones I've seen at the lgs don't have those versions, just the rail ones. Yet, part of me says get the c308 since it's cheaper (significantly).
Part of me has no real reason to buy anything. I kind of just want to build/assemble what I have. I don't shoot often enough. But at the same time I feel that I want/have to get something before the ban actually kicks in. So I don't regret it.
Any suggestions? Is it worth buying over say a higher end AR?
I have a X95 because it's a compact (30.5" in delivered form, 26.1" as a RAW) gun which points fast and can be metaphorically held all day (all the weight is in back), it has a normal hand guard to grasp, the trigger can be made great (I bought the Geissele Super Sabra pack + bow during their Black Friday sale), it has an AR15 located magazine release, it has last round hold-open with AR magazines, and after market support should emerge as it did for the SAR.
I don't have an AUG due to vertical grip in place of traditional fore-end, trigger, and having to choose between proprietary magazines (no 10 round AR PMAGs) and last round bolt hold open. With 16" barrel in free-state/RAW form it's 2" longer than the Tavors with 16.5" barrels. It's a few hundred dollars more expensive than the Tavors, although relative to total price (~$2K) and amortized over decades that doesn't matter.
I suggest a X95 or SAR. The SAR lacks the AR magazine release, needs an aftermarket trigger (the X95 addressed that with an OK service rifle trigger which could be better than milspec AR), and has better aftermarket support like the pistol grip mounted bipod. Some people find the SAR shoulders better with its taller buttstock. I noticed that, but didn't prefer the SAR stock enough to favor it over the X95 with its AR style magazine release.
The X95 is about $1800-$1850 as a dealer Californicated free state model before shipping/FFL/tax/DROS. You can get a factory IWI CA compliant model for $1700, but they left out AR located magazine release parts which cost more to have retrofitted than the price premium for a dealer conversion.
Shop around for a FFL if you haven't been buying online - mine charges $40 for inter-state transfers and offers appointments for starting DROS/pickup so there's no waiting in line (just California's 240 hours between the two).
I don't have a C308 because it has CETME sights and is more likely to have bolt gap or other assembly problems than a PTR-91.
I have a PTR-91 FR CA because the G3 is a neat battle rifle with good sights and floating barrel, an off-list HK (911, SR9, SR9T, SR9TC) would be 3X the price, a quality custom build would be double the cost, and at the time I didn't want to spend another $200 getting an in-stock free-state model Californicated which was a mistake given parts, labor, and hassle to add the flapper which is absent on factory CA compliant models.
I suggest ordering a Californicated free-state GI model from Atlantic Arms for the AK/FAL/HK paddle release (a long trigger finger won't reach the button), lighter barrel, and cleaner look without optics (you can add a rail using the claw mount provisions) then adjusting to suit your tastes.
The PTR 91 GI Californicated by Atlantic is about $1000 with a grip wrap plus the usual costs. You'll need a bullet button from elsewhere before 12/31 to be grandfathered.
If I had to get one or the other it'd depend on what I already owned. For my only modern sporting rifle, it'd be a .223 for ammo price which is about half .308 shooting reasonably accurate (brass case commercial) ammo. If I already had a .308 I'd buy the bullpup for something different. If I owned one or more sport utility rifles in .223 and none in .308 it'd be a tough call - .308 guns shoot less like toys, like moving from .22 LR to .223 or a BB gun to .22 LR.
Buying both is the correct approach. I'd regret not having one of the two later much more than spending an extra $1000 now. I wouldn't want to live with either in mag-locked (load through the ejection port) or featureless (thumb around the grip able to operate the safety) form.
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"An Aug all day long. It has the same trigger as a 1911. Sure there are guns with better trigger systems BUT at the end of the day it IS a proven battle rifle unlike the Tavor. Most people that bash them can't afford them. Buy it and all of the ney sayers will want to shoot it. Been there, done that. I love mine....."
Just a small point to nitpick, the Tavor has been in combat use for more than a decade and the x95 has been issued to some units in the IDF for several years already. I bought myself a X95 because I spent 2 years with a Tavor variant in military and have come to appreciate the reliability and simplicity of the rifle.Comment
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If I had a spare $2.5k to spend, I would buy it in a heartbeat. That's actually an investment grade rifle if you ever move to a free state. They are super cool, unusual looking. You made a smart move. The trigger, etc. can be replaced.NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer
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An Aug all day long. It has the same trigger as a 1911. Sure there are guns with better trigger systems BUT at the end of the day it IS a proven battle rifle unlike the Tavor. Most people that bash them can't afford them. Buy it and all of the ney sayers will want to shoot it. Been there, done that. I love mine.....
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