Can you recomend a FAL type rifle for my next purchase?

[cj cake]

I have always liked the look of the FN FAL. I have thought about purchasing one many times, but I never follow through with the idea. I am "over" the AR and AK platform right now. I have quite a few of each and I don't want another one any time soon. I am starting to look into the FAL and need to figure out what options I have right now to purchase one. I want it to be as "traditional" and true to the original design as possible. What I mean is that I do not want a modern interpretation of the FAL with plastic magpul furniture and rail sections all over it. The FN FAL is listed as an AW, so it is out. What make and model do you guys recommend that has some availability and decent quality that I can purchase to add to the collection?

I like this traditional FN FAL. Or one similar to it.

The fore end of this one is also nice.

The one pictured above is UGLY to me, I an not looking for this "style" of FAL.

[Thorax]

That's easy.

The father of the line.....

[nate76239]

The DS Arms SA58 is pretty much a standard FAL clone. If you want the wood handguard and furniture it can be added later. Atlantic firearms is currently out of stock on the lower priced Voyager model but you can get an idea what they sell for

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ds-arms-fal-sa58-rifle-21-premium-threaded-barrel-detail.html?Itemid=0

http://www.dsarms.com/p-14238-fal-sa58-standard-rifle-21-premium-bipod-cut-barrel-fixed-humpback-buttstock.aspx

[-hanko]

DSA makes nice rifles. Entreprise may or may not, it depends.

Spend some time on the FAL Files to get an idea on what kind of a rifle with what variations appeals to you. It will also let you see FAL's for sale.

I would also check out Arizona Response Systems website...sweet rifles.

[penguin0123]

That's easy.

The father of the line.....

Uhh... G3 and FAL are entirely different animals. Roller delay blowback vs. Short stroke tilting bolt.

Father of the FAL is the FN-49.

[-hanko]

That's easy.

The father of the line.....

Please explain how that's even possible.

[Thorax]

Well, that's not a G3.

Try again lads.

[Citadelgrad87]

Well, that's not a G3.

Try again lads.

It is a G3. It's an HK PSG1, based DIRECTLY on a G3 rifle, delayed roller action.

The FAL is a gas system with a piston.

PSG1 parts are a direct swap with G3 rifles, and civilian models of same.

None interchange with FALS.

Edit, OP, I got in on the late 90s(?) kit craze, I bought a little shot Argentinian kit and put it on an Entreprise receiver, I built it myself and put on that wood furniture you like, that's Israeli furniture.

I chopped the barrel to 16 with a brake. Handy, punchy little rifle.

It wasn't grandfathered by any HK.

[Sicarius]

That's easy.

The father of the line.....

Wha???
Kevin

[Sicarius]

Dsa is about as good as it gets for an off the shelf rifle. If you don't mind a used rifle, I would keep an eye out for a imbel or dsa receiver with a matching stg(steyr) parts kit. Thre is a wealth of info on the falfiles.
As for the G3/psg1/msg90/hk911/hk91/sar8/ptr91, go to hk pro.
Kevin

[crazychinaman]

Rifle

Also check out fn forum.DSA is about as close as you can get to real FN FAL rifle.Little pricey ,butt worth it.If you want to assemble your self.Then get a DSA or Imbel receiver.Too bad .I just sold 3 barreled STG uppers about 4 months ago.Good luck with the FAL .Love them,have 2 Belgians and five clones.

[Thorax]

You guys really need to look a bit deeper than the surface (ooooh, look at the pretty tail lights!).

Look into .30 light rifle (british).
Then look into 7.62 CETME (spain).

G1, G2, G3, G4 et al (quo eris demostradum).....wow, never knew that.

It's really amazing what you guys don't know.

[stilly]

The DS Arms SA58 is pretty much a standard FAL clone. If you want the wood handguard and furniture it can be added later. Atlantic firearms is currently out of stock on the lower priced Voyager model but you can get an idea what they sell for

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ds-arms-fal-sa58-rifle-21-premium-threaded-barrel-detail.html?Itemid=0

http://www.dsarms.com/p-14238-fal-sa...buttstock.aspx

DSA SA58 is an awesome firearm. I love mine but I never shot it much due to ammo costs. But it is solid and has a great feel to it even though my bullet button fell out. I gotta inspect that again actually and put it back together.

I also have a PTR-91 that I like, but I am not thrilled about the way it treats brass, but I will have a closer look. It has a fluted chamber so word on the street is that the brass might come out a bit bumpy but the nice thing is that it DOES zebra mark the brass once it is ejected so you can find it, when you feel like driving to the next state on your right that is... If you get a PTR make sure to get a hard brass catcher from HKfirearms as well.

[penguin0123]

You guys really need to look a bit deeper than the surface (ooooh, look at the pretty tail lights!).

Look into .30 light rifle (british).
Then look into 7.62 CETME (spain).

G1, G2, G3, G4 et al (quo eris demostradum).....wow, never knew that.

It's really amazing what you guys don't know.

From wiki page on FAL:

U.S. prototype ".30 Light Rifle" cartridge. FN decided to hedge their bets with the U.S., and in 1951 even made a deal that the U.S. could produce FALs royalty-free, given that the UK appeared to be favouring their own EM-2.

The "30 Light Rifle cartridge" is would become the 7.62x51, and the T25 would evolve into the M14. It was never British, who favored the 280 Enfield in their own EM2.

Interesting fact, that T25 looks an awful lot like the fallschirmjagergewehr

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/m14-development/t25/

The CETME rifle was the direct predecessor to the G3. Model B used the 7.62 CETME and Model C used the 7.62x51 as we know it today. The Spaniard used a roller delay blowback similar to that found on the MG42 and Stg45. The short stroke tilting bolt seen in the Stg44 is also seen in the SVT40, FN49, and FAL. I'll let Wiki tell the rest of the story:
Your claim that the G3 is the father of the FAL is incorrect because:

• FAL predates the G3, not that chronology has anything to do with this
• FAL uses a short stroke tilting bolt while a G3 uses a roller delay blowback, two entirely different operating mechanisms.

[nate76239]

I linked some G1 rifle and L1A1 sites with pictures. I think the second rifle in the OP has an Isreali heavy barrel Handguard

http://www.gunpics.net/german/g1/g1.html

http://www.silvercrescentindustries.com/product.php?line=FAL-L1A1