Ruger Scout in 308? 16 vs 18?

[hermosabeach]

Ammo is expensive and a consumable.


Buy the rifle, base and optics that work for you.

What does a case of OTM cost?

Reloading makes it more affordable after you spend the money to get set up


It’s easy to spend $1400 for a case of 308 OTM

It’s easy to spend $600-$3800 on optics.




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As to 300 black- I don’t understand that at all unless you live where you can get a muffler / silencer / suppressor

Past 150, it drops like a rock.

[hermosabeach]

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/hornady-eld-match-centerfire-rifle-ammo

[splithoof]

Just average shooting with the option for better in case I need to. Could I reach 500m if I get proficient?

You could with considerable practice, very consistent ammunition, and someone who knows how to call your hits during difficult conditions. You will also need an optic of high quality.
I would also suggest going to a proper school if you are so inclined towards that investment.
Overall, yes it can be done.

[splithoof]

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/horn...ire-rifle-ammo

That is a major reason of why I prefer to craft my own ammunition.
Granted, the Hornady stuff is superb; co$t is my reasoning.

[jimmykan]

is this worth getting? I am considering for being fun it seems. Any opinions?

https://ruger.com/products/scoutRifl...eets/6822.html

Light, handy, durable, accurate, carry-all-day controlled-round-feed .308 with a terrific ghost ring iron sight system and detachable box magazine for less than a grand?

As 200Apples said, it's a light handy powerful rifle, but I would not call shooting a box of 308 Winchester from a 6-lb gun "fun". Makes a great "survival" rifle, not a great range toy.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I ran a thread over at CASTBOOLITS that ran for several years. We had many guys who bought the guns based on my recommendations and none were disappointed in either the gun or it's performance.

We had guys attending Long Range Schools shooting out to 1200 yards and beating the guys with $5000 rifles.

I have #159 of the first production run and had some minor problems with bolt fit. I fixed that myself and contacted Ruger to tell them what I did. I have been friends with the guy I talked to ever since.

My gun has been <MOA with my reloads from day one. It has only fired 100 rounds of factory and I have reloaded those cases 13 times so far and have not lost even one!

To say the gun is an excellent performer is a gross understatement! It is exceptional and for what I have heard that is the norm.

I sold over 50 GSR's from that thread and Ruger GAVE me Ruger Guide Gun M77 .30-06! for my efforts.

I had a 3 shot group on the Pink Ram at Piru at 500 meters that measured 4 3/4" I was pretty swelled up over that, and even the range owner at the time said it was pretty good shootin'.

Mine as a XS Rail with the Aperture Sight in it with a Leupold VX-R 3x9 mounted to a GG&G QD mount that actually repeats pretty well. And a Smith Enterprises Muzzle Brake screwed on the end.



This has been my Long Range Silhouette Gun for quite a few years now.

Note: I have tried exactly one load in this gun. 45.0 gr of IMR 4895 with a 147 gr FMJBT M80 Ball pulled bullet. First 5 shot group was 7/8"! I figured it was the only load I needed.

Randy

[1859sharps]

As 200Apples said, it's a light handy powerful rifle, but I would not call shooting a box of 308 Winchester from a 6-lb gun "fun". Makes a great "survival" rifle, not a great range toy.

scout rifles if built correctly are not designed to be range toys shot from the bench. they are built to be out in the field, being shot from improvised positions. it makes a difference because of how your body molds to the rifle (or not) at the bench vs out in the field without the bench.

when you mount the rifle, and don't get it into that "pock" just right....OUCH...when you do, very tolerable to shoot many shots in a short window of time.

light rifles are not forgiving of technical errors in shooting technique. heavier rifles absorb recoil and hide a multitude of technical sins.

[splithoof]

Just for S&G's, I measured the barrels of my two stainless Ruger GSR's; both are 16.25"; this is from the boltface to the crown. My older blued version is 17.25".
They all shoot about the same, and do really well with 168 grain SMK's. That loading mimics the ballistics of my preferred hunting load, which uses the Barnes 168 TSX; it has never failed. Correct shot placement, game animals hit the ground usually immediately.
Personally, I dislike muzzle devices on "Scout" rifles; none of mine have them. The extra barrel length created by something without rifling to my mind offers nothing but increased weight and OAL, in a rifle that when used correctly is a relatively soft shooter. YMMV.

[splithoof]

scout rifles if built correctly are not designed to be range toys shot from the bench. they are built to be out in the field, being shot from improvised positions. it makes a difference because of how your body molds to the rifle (or not) at the bench vs out in the field without the bench.

when you mount the rifle, and don't get it into that "pock" just right....OUCH...when you do, very tolerable to shoot many shots in a short window of time.

light rifles are not forgiving of technical errors in shooting technique. heavier rifles absorb recoil and hide a multitude of technical sins.

Very well said.
My daughter was I think around 14 years old when she started using our first GSR; it has become her favorite bolt rifle.

[plumbum]

As 200Apples said, it's a light handy powerful rifle, but I would not call shooting a box of 308 Winchester from a 6-lb gun "fun". Makes a great "survival" rifle, not a great range toy.

You sound like someone who has never know the joys of rapidly emptying an M44 while wearing a T-shirt.

[jimmykan]

You sound like someone who has never know the joys of rapidly emptying an M44 while wearing a T-shirt.

No, I have done that once. Once was enough.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I don't know what you guys are talking about I have fired 1400+ rounds thru mine and it has been a total Cream Puff to shoot from day one. I generally have only a tee shirt on to cushion the recoil.

My Silhouette shoots are 50 rounds. 10 sighters, and 40 at targets. This usually takes 3-4 hours depending on how many show up on a given day.

This gun is the softest shooting Center Fire Rifle I own. It weighs more than 6 lbs though.

Randy

[fmunk]

308 is less affected by barrel length. So it's really a matter of personal preference.

[usr1987]

308 is less affected by barrel length. So it's really a matter of personal preference.

I guess I will get the 16 inch

[smle-man]

As 200Apples said, it's a light handy powerful rifle, but I would not call shooting a box of 308 Winchester from a 6-lb gun "fun". Makes a great "survival" rifle, not a great range toy.

That's why I went with the .223 version. I can shoot it all day without feeling it.