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  • #31
    KrizB
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 728

    Originally posted by morrcarr67
    Probably not. They'd have to put all the CA BS safeties, including the MDS. I haven't seen any 1911 platform with one, that's not saying that it hasn't or can't be done.
    I remember seeing a video on youtube a few years ago about a 1911 with a mag disconnect safety, it was made by either Browning or Charles Daly.
    The trigger had a simple piece of metal on the back of it that locked up against the magazine release and prevented it from being pulled unless a magazine was in the pistol.
    No idea of the stupid DOJ would accept something like that though, they probably want a minimum of three parts or something added to make a MDS.


    Originally posted by Reno-Kid

    Nothing Rost Martin in the past 60+ days.
    Perhaps something screwy is going on with the govnor.
    Over on reddit, Ammo Bros said Rost Martin, FN, SIG, and Springfield all had pistols rejected by the CA DOJ in the last couple months.
    The Echelon passed the safety testing a few weeks ago but was denied because the CLI wasn't "big enough".
    Springfield is going to appeal but that can take who knows how long, if the DOJ denies the current CA Compliant Echelon the new-new CA Compliant Echelon with slightly larger CLI won't be submitted until 2025

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    • #32
      morrcarr67
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 14902

      Originally posted by KrizB

      I remember seeing a video on youtube a few years ago about a 1911 with a mag disconnect safety, it was made by either Browning or Charles Daly.
      The trigger had a simple piece of metal on the back of it that locked up against the magazine release and prevented it from being pulled unless a magazine was in the pistol.
      No idea of the stupid DOJ would accept something like that though, they probably want a minimum of three parts or something added to make a MDS.



      No idea, but Kimber has figured out a way to make them happy. Hopefully they didn't patent it so others can use it too.
      Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

      Originally posted by Erion929

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      • #33
        KrizB
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 728

        Rost-Martin RM1C might be coming to the roster any day now


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        • #34
          KrizB
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 728

          HK is going to ship a limited numbers of the on-roster VP9 pistols this month to stores
          Here is what the VP9L OR will look like and its double CLI

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          • #35
            2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2020
            • 313

            Originally posted by KrizB
            HK is going to ship a limited numbers of the on-roster VP9 pistols this month to stores
            Here is what the VP9L OR will look like and its double CLI

            Are those two “loaded when out”, just a sticker or engraved on there; can we peel it off? Two notifications on there is a bit much; in my opinion?
            Last edited by 2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510; 10-05-2024, 4:20 AM. Reason: Grammer?

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            • #36
              dfens
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 922

              Good bet that the loaded when out is laser etched on the slide so it's on there for good. At least it's not as bad as a Sig P-Series. I can't wait to be able to buy another VP-9 I already have one but for many of my new shooter friends this would be my top choice for them to buy. Also in a few months when I apply for a CCW the VP-9SK is the one I'm looking at to cary. I can live with the markings and I'll just remove the magazine disconnect.

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              • #37
                KrizB
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 728

                HK probably doubled up on the CLI just in case the DOJ wanted to pull some **** and they must have some pretty good foresight.
                Few weeks ago I mentioned in the thread that several handguns were rejected by the DOJ for their CLI even though they were the same as previously guns approved.
                Today CRPA/Chuck Michel said they are going to look into it;

                Chuck Michel @CRPAPresident

                2. Earlier this week, we were informed of rumors that DOJ is suddenly taking a much harder line on "chamber load indicators", and denying handgun submissions to the roster that should meet the plain language of the law as defined in Penal Code § 16380 as it pertains to such indicators.

                We will be submitting public records act requests to the DOJ to try and get to the bottom of both of these issues and see if DOJ is enforcing underground regulations.

                Our hope is that both issues are just related to overzealous lower level employees at the DOJ, and do not reflect any internal policy change.

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                • #38
                  SDDAVE56
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1500

                  Originally posted by KrizB
                  HK probably doubled up on the CLI just in case the DOJ wanted to pull some **** and they must have some pretty good foresight.
                  Few weeks ago I mentioned in the thread that several handguns were rejected by the DOJ for their CLI even though they were the same as previously guns approved.
                  Today CRPA/Chuck Michel said they are going to look into it;

                  Chuck Michel @CRPAPresident

                  More like sarcasm towards the DOJ. Read it stupid, if in doubt read it again.

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                  • #39
                    KrizB
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 728

                    Century Arms (Canik) Mete MC9 is now on roster



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                    • #40
                      ar15robert
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 2384

                      Originally posted by KrizB
                      Century Arms (Canik) Mete MC9 is now on roster



                      I bought one in April and it’s been a great gun. I replaced my g43 as a carry gun with it as capacity is 12 plus 1 early models had some issues but any of the ones out now are good to go. Triggers are very nice and they are optic ready.

                      hopefully you guys get the full sized models too like the mete line o have an older tp9sf and love it. Very accurate and their triggers are crisp these guns will surprise some with bang for the buck.
                      Last edited by ar15robert; 10-08-2024, 7:52 PM.

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                      • #41
                        ARFrog
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1285

                        Originally posted by 2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510

                        Are those two “loaded when out”, just a sticker or engraved on there; can we peel it off? Two notifications on there is a bit much; in my opinion?
                        Too bad the CA DOJ did not consider the likely consequences education vs gun safety in our fair State:


                        States with the Lowest Literacy Rates

                        1. California


                        California's 23.1% of adults lacking basic prose literacy skills make California have the lowest literacy rate of 76.9%.
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                        ARFrog

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                        • #42
                          2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 313

                          ahh poo. I was hoping one of them would be a removable sticker like the Fn 5.7 extra serial number stock on the side the of the frame.

                          Yeh, I guess that’s more of a personal nit-picking aesthetic/cosmetic preference.

                          Have fun with the quali on that.

                          Originally posted by dfens
                          Good bet that the loaded when out is laser etched on the slide so it's on there for good. At least it's not as bad as a Sig P-Series. I can't wait to be able to buy another VP-9 I already have one but for many of my new shooter friends this would be my top choice for them to buy. Also in a few months when I apply for a CCW the VP-9SK is the one I'm looking at to cary. I can live with the markings and I'll just remove the magazine disconnect.

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                          • #43
                            2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2020
                            • 313

                            Wow, didn’t even know about that statistic.
                            Originally posted by ARFrog

                            Too bad the CA DOJ did not consider the likely consequences education vs gun safety in our fair State:


                            States with the Lowest Literacy Rates

                            1. California


                            California's 23.1% of adults lacking basic prose literacy skills make California have the lowest literacy rate of 76.9%.

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                            • #44
                              recpark99
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 732

                              Originally posted by 2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510
                              ahh poo. I was hoping one of them would be a removable sticker like the Fn 5.7 extra serial number stock on the side the of the frame.

                              Yeh, I guess that’s more of a personal nit-picking aesthetic/cosmetic preference.

                              Have fun with the quali on that.


                              You could send the slide out for cerakote and have the cerakote guy bead blast the CLI markings off. They're not engraved as deep as the S#.

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                              • #45
                                2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Jan 2020
                                • 313

                                Originally posted by recpark99

                                You could send the slide out for cerakote and have the cerakote guy bead blast the CLI markings off. They're not engraved as deep as the S#.
                                Hey, didn’t even think of that; thanks. Sounds like not a bad idea after breaking in the gun and using it for awhile after that; mixed in with holster wear.

                                Probably not a good idea to do it right away after buying it; especially for a worst case scenario where someone needs to send it back to the manufacturer for warranty purposes to work out some kinks and stinks.

                                thanks!
                                Last edited by 2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510; 10-16-2024, 10:07 PM. Reason: Edit grammar in sentence

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