Failure to eject in to a double feed

[Paul053]

So I've been having random extraction issues since I took a pistol class last month. I have a gen3 g19 with a 336 ejector, stock extractor, apex safety block with reduced power spring, extra power trigger spring, overwatch precision falx trigger. In addition I get brass to face every now and then, maybe once every 60 rounds or so. Initially I thought I had carbon build up on the extractor which I cleaned out. In the class I was shooting federal aluminum case which is relatively low power stuff so I initially chalked it up to that. But today I was shooting my HD load which is federal hst 147gr standard pressure and it happened again. It fails to eject the last case and tries to load a round in the chamber. If I do a tap rack it kicks out the spent case but then causes a double feed. Any ideas for a fix? So far this has happened about 5 times all within the last few months. Pretty new gun with less than 1500 rounds on it but at least double in dry fire.

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[gaberaynes]

does your wrist get little limp around the 60th round

[AreWeFree]

I see your 10-8 sights, any other modifications?

If it's completely stock except for sights, and you're having constant malfunctions, throw it away and buy another, or have someone else try to reproduce the problem with several hundred rounds. Keeping it is a range toy/training gun also makes sense.

[P5Ret]

When you say reduced power spring are you talking about the recoil spring? If that's the case I'd switch that back to stock weight, see if that clear's up the problem.

[AreWeFree]

Oh I see you made considerable modifications, you did this to yourself, take care.

[blkside]

Return to stock. Problem Solved.

[tradecraft]

How did it shoot stock?

[CandG]

Oh I see you made considerable modifications, you did this to yourself, take care.

Yup

Return to stock. Problem Solved.

Yup.

OP, what was wrong with the stock pistol that you were trying to solve with all of those modifications? Because, I can tell you what's wrong with your Glock now that you've added all that junk - it fails to eject.

Not trying to be a smart*** (ok, maybe a little), but if you tell us what the multitude of problems were with the stock pistol that you were trying to solve with all that aftermarket stuff, it might help us find the source of the problem. Maybe the pistol is just a lemon, if it was that bad from the start.

Also, Glock springs are notoriously lightweight to begin with. Making it even lighter could certainly cause problems.

[smak28]

There can be many possibilities especially with the aftermarket parts you installed. However, I believe there was a recall on 336 ejectors and believe Glock stopped using those, but the people with more knowledge about Glocks can chime in. Look into that.

[Paul053]

None of those modifications would cause the extraction issues. Those are very common mods to lighten up and smooth out the trigger. As laid out in this article http://www.militarytimes.com/story/m...tips/32154307/

Recoil spring is stock as is striker spring.

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[AreWeFree]

None of those modifications would cause the extraction issues. Those are very common mods to lighten up and smooth out the trigger. As laid out in this article http://www.militarytimes.com/story/m...tips/32154307/

Recoil spring is stock as is striker spring.

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1. Contact Glock for warranty.
2. Troubleshoot it yourself, return ALL parts to stock and begin testing. Don't forget known good ammo.

[smak28]

Here's a thread about the 336 ejector: http://www.glockforum.com/forum/f8/336-ejector-2241/

They also mentioned brass to the face. Did you buy it with the 336 ejector?

[mjmagee67]

It's amazing how many people know nothing about the way guns work yet offer opinions on how to fix it. There are literally 100s of thousand Glocks with the type of mods the guy made, and they all work fine.

It you are getting ejection issues there are 3 main areas to look. The first is the ejector. How does the ejector look? Is it bent or broken? Second, the extractor, is it moving free? How does the "hook" look? Does it have a burr or lip it's not suppose to. Is the spring and rod moving freely? The third is the recoil spring. In general the type of malfunction he is having is caused be too strong of recoil spring. A weaker spring will allow the slide to move back faster, knocking the empty case out faster and harder. Weak ammo can also cause this as could a sticking slide..

Putting a lighter striker spring or heavier trigger spring have a similar affect as a lighter recoil spring. Changing those components causes less resistance to the slide moving back because the striker takes less energy to cock.

I would look at the extractor and it's associated part first. Those parts aren't that expensive.

[billped]

The responses are because many, if not most, Glock issues are caused by those types of modifications and the audience tires of diagnosing.

There is nothing necessarily wrong with modding your gun, but the resulting "it don't work no more" posts get kind of old.

[deephouse]

Return to stock. Problem Solved.

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