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  • Erion929
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 4706

    Orange County Now Allowing Standard Capacity Magazines for CCW!

    Per Steven Lieberman @Artemis Defense:


    So....you want to carry a Standard Capacity Magazine?

    You may remember that last week I sent you all an email outlining the new OCSD policy regarding modifications of CCW firearms as well as the ability for spouses and domestic partners to carry each others guns.

    Good stuff.

    OCSD at the time adopted the additional policy that they would not allow legally acquired standard capacity magazines to be carried.

    Well....that changed this morning.

    OCSD has formally announced the following:

    MAGAZINE CAPACITY:
    The CCW license does not define magazine capacity, just the firearm model, serial number, and caliber. If the magazine and firearm are legal to possess in the State of California, and the firearm is approved to be listed on the license, a CCW permit holder may carry.


    California firearms laws/regulations are subject to change. It is the responsibility of the owner/applicant to ensure the firearm and magazine are in compliance with California law at the time of carry.
    Any violations or failure to adhere to state laws/regulations will result in immediate suspension and/or revocation of license.

    So...if you have a legally acquired standard capacity magazine and you want to carry it....you are now good to go!

    I don't want to minimize this! OCSD has taken an EXTREMELY freedom oriented approach to what you can and cannot carry.

    This is good stuff!!!!



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    Last edited by Erion929; 02-05-2020, 11:41 AM.
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    igs
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 941

    So this guy was completely wrong. But he will bury you in court in front of a jury, HA HA


    ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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    • #3
      TurboChrisB
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2010
      • 5113

      I'd guess Greg Block's ego just got checked.



      Originally posted by igs
      So this guy was completely wrong. But he will bury you in court in front of a jury, HA HA


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      • #4
        igs
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 941

        Originally posted by TurboChrisB
        I'd guess Greg Block's ego just got checked.
        And he's still not admitting he's wrong.

        ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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        • #5
          baggss
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2013
          • 3439

          Originally posted by igs
          And he's still not admitting he's wrong.

          An he never will...

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          • #6
            Doheny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2008
            • 13819

            Originally posted by igs
            So this guy was completely wrong. But he will bury you in court in front of a jury, HA HA


            Where's that thread from?
            Sent from Free America

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            • #7
              baggss
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2013
              • 3439

              Originally posted by Doheny
              Where's that thread from?
              Looks like the CalCCW fb page on a mobile device...

              EDIT: it is, I just found it. The original post is dated 31 Jan and was posted by Greg Block. Lots of posts like this that thread.
              Last edited by baggss; 02-19-2020, 2:01 PM.

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              • #8
                PartyBarge
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 545

                I've now heard this from a few trusted sources.
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                • #9
                  Mayor McRifle
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 7646

                  Originally posted by igs
                  So this guy was completely wrong. But he will bury you in court in front of a jury, HA HA


                  Who is this Greg Block guy? What a FUD-Flinging TOOL! He's a self-described "expert" who just revealed to the world that he doesn't know what he's talking about.


                  Originally posted by igs
                  And he's still not admitting he's wrong.

                  LOL. Unbelievable.
                  Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 02-19-2020, 2:01 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Doheny
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13819

                    Originally posted by baggss
                    Looks like the CalCCW fb page on a mobile device...
                    Thx
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                    • #11
                      PartyBarge
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 545

                      Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                      Who is this Greg Block guy? What a FUD-Flinging TOOL! He's a self-described "expert" who just revealed to the world that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
                      Not defending Greg, but he's the guy I've gone through for my last 3 permits. Not weighing in either way, but it does seem like he's wrong on this one. But I also haven't seen anything official from OCSD either.
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                      • #12
                        baggss
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3439

                        Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                        Who is this Greg Block guy? What a FUD-Flinging TOOL! He's a self-described "expert" who just revealed to the world that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
                        He seems to be very big in the OC CCW world. The fb discussions I've been in with him have been ok, but he does come across as arrogant most of the time. He seems to be "in the know" with the OC CCW unit from what I can tell. He has posted pics of himself with the OC and prior RS Sheriffs. That kind of thing. If its any indication, the San Diego Gun Owners group folks seem to stear clear of him for the most part.

                        There's a fine line between being famous and being infamous and he doesn't seem to grasp that he tends to be on the wrong side of that line.
                        Last edited by baggss; 02-19-2020, 2:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Doheny
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13819

                          Originally posted by PartyBarge
                          Not defending Greg, but he's the guy I've gone through for my last 3 permits. Not weighing in either way, but it does seem like he's wrong on this one. But I also haven't seen anything official from OCSD either.
                          It's mentioned on their webpage:

                          MAGAZINE CAPACITY:
                          The CCW license does not define magazine capacity, just the firearm model, serial number, and caliber. If the magazine and firearm are legal to possess in the State of California, and the firearm is approved to be listed on the license, a CCW permit holder may carry.
                          http://www.ocsd.org/about_ocsd/services/ccw
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                          • #14
                            PartyBarge
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 545

                            Originally posted by Doheny
                            It's mentioned on their webpage:

                            http://www.ocsd.org/about_ocsd/services/ccw
                            That's a hell of a win for us!
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                            You mean you don't know? So what kind of reporter are you? It's easy! It's a great friggen gun!" - Alan Korwin, 2015

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                            • #15
                              baggss
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 3439

                              Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                              Who is this Greg Block guy? What a FUD-Flinging TOOL! He's a self-described "expert" who just revealed to the world that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
                              One other thing; he used to be the owner/admin of the now defunct CalCCW website/forums. Their forums went TU a few years ago when their server crashed and never came back. He fancied that they were of a "higher caliber" than CalGuns and would usually suspend/ insta-ban (without warning) anyone who mentioned anything about CalGuns in any post there. I got suspended a few times, without any warning, for mentioning CalGuns there. After that I just lurked.
                              Last edited by baggss; 02-20-2020, 2:41 PM.

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