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We have amnesty for mag purchases?
Just got an email from 4ward defense and they seem to be under the impression that we are exempt?
"Our Lawyers have said that since you are on file during the amnesty purchase period, we can ship you this no problem if you are one of the lucky 12!" That was in regards to them sending us a magazine as of now for leaving a review. Am I reading that right? |
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Unless you ordered and paid for SCM during freedom week or you have an exemption (LEO), you cannot receive them now. You'd be inviting felony on yourself.
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Its a stupid misreading of the second order. Judge Benitez wanted to protect anyone who bought a magazine during the time after his first order and before his second, so he wrote in protections.
Numbskulls who misread what he meant and the purpose of both orders claim that means that anyone who bought a mag during the week has magical immunity to buy mags forever after. Its a stupid and incorrect reading. It popped up lime whack a mole for a few days. Now i guess its back. If the mag ban was struck down on 2d amendment grounds (it was) then magazines are protected by the 2d and cannot be banned. Why would he then write an order that ONLY the people who bought scms during the week can buy as many as they want? They already have them, the other people are the ones suffering a deprivation of 2d amendment rights. Why create two classes of gunowner, separated by an impulse buy within a week of his order. This is aggressively stupid.
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That was my take and why I asked. It was confusing and why I'd ask here before I get a knock on the door.
This was sent tonight btw and it's for an additional free magazine not purchased. Just looking for confirmation, didn't mean to start up trouble. |
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A felony? Have you even READ the related statue?
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You arent stirring up any trouble, but people saying this is the “plain meaning” of the order sure are.
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It's a wobbler, so he's not entirely wrong.
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Its like reading the second amendment to gun banners isnt it?
Who or what is subject to the protection of the stay? Is it magazines, or those who purchased or sold magazines during the effective date of Benitez's order enjoining enforcement of 32310? It is very clear that there is a disagreement between what was written and what legal folks assert was intended.
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No, because the guy who didnt buy any now still cant get any. Its not a damage to the state analysis, its a rights analysis.
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The supposed irreparable harm to the state is that more people have LCMs and therefore more potential mass shooters who have LCMs.
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No, we are NOT having this discussion again.
If you want to do something that seems to be prohibited by the text of PC 32310, consult your own lawyer and choose whether to act on the advice you pay for.
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