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For those of you whose workplace mandated vaccinations, how did you deal with it? I don't want the vaccine now.

Did you reluctantly get vaccinated to keep your job? Did you quit? Something else?
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Call a lawyer that deals with discrimination or medical issues. You could sue them over HIPAA violation.

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IF I really needed the job I would make a fake vaccine card and not say anything to anyone.
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Call a lawyer that deals with discrimination or medical issues. You could sue them over HIPAA violation.
Nothing at all to do with HIPAA
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Show me the law where it states or you could ask about someoneís medical history, last I checked thatís a HIPAA violation and yes I did look it up
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Show me the law where it states or you could ask about someoneís medical history, last I checked thatís a HIPAA violation and yes I did look it up
I believe hippa is regarding med facility not providing info.
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Wrong. You said it is a HIPAA violation to require an injection. It isn't. I do this for a living, by the way, so I didn't need to "look it up".

And it's NOT a HIPAA violation to ask about a medical condition. HIPAA is about making certain disclosures of medical information illegal. It doesn't make it illegal to ask someone a medical question.

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Call a lawyer that deals with discrimination or medical issues. You could sue them over HIPAA violation.
Companies can make vaccination a condition of employment. In December the EEOC ruled that mandatory vaccination does not violate the ADA. For religious or health exemptions they should try to make ďreasonableĒ accommodations but many will argue that they cannot. At the end of the day, look for a job without the requirement if it is a dealbreaker for you. In the current climate it may be hard to get a governmental agency to take your side.
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Companies can make vaccination a condition of employment. In December the EEOC ruled that mandatory vaccination does not violate the ADA. For religious or health exemptions they should try to make “reasonable” accommodations but many will argue that they cannot. At the end of the day, look for a job without the requirement if it is a dealbreaker for you. In the current climate it may be hard to get a governmental agency to take your side.
ALL current wuhan flu vaccines are approved for Emergency Use Only, and technically still in clinical trials. It's just that the clinical trial is now the entire world. But the point is that the vaccine is still technically experimental, and no company can force an employee to participate in experimental drug research. A good lawyer will be able to defeat a company mandate. Once they have full FDA approval, that course of action changes significantly.
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A good lawyer will be able to defeat a company mandate. Once they have full FDA approval, that course of action changes significantly.
Companies can and do make it a condition of employment in my industry, healthcare. If you refuse to take the vaccine, they will try to accommodate you. If they cannot, you are no longer employed. We are still under a National Health Emergency declaration. Look, your employer can require you to wear a pink dress at work. If you refuse, same thing. I was suggesting a course of action based on what Iíve seen actually happen, employee refuses vaccine, employee no longer employed.

Could you litigate down the road? Maybe, but from the difficulty Iíve seen with a neighbor trying to get a lawyer to even take the case, that might be challenging. Do I think it is right? Heck no, however my advice still stands.
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For those of you whose workplace mandated vaccinations, how did you deal with it? I don't want the vaccine now.

Did you reluctantly get vaccinated to keep your job? Did you quit? Something else?
I heard a manager at work bring it up but since pretty much nobody is playing along with this stupidity anymore I donít know how far it will go. If it comes I will refuse. They can fire me if they want.
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For those of you whose workplace mandated vaccinations, how did you deal with it? I don't want the vaccine now.

Did you reluctantly get vaccinated to keep your job? Did you quit? Something else?
Find a lawyer and argue that the vaccine is not FDA approved. It is approved under "Emergency" conditions, so it has not been subjected to the same level of rigorous testing as needed for standard approval.

This is one of the reasons that they can't mandate that the military receive it yet (my son's in the Navy).
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Tell them that you have medical issues that you donít want to disclose that prevents you from getting the vaccine at the recommendation of your doctor. If they push the issue, tell them that you will sue them for medical discrimination and HIPPA violations.
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Tell them that you have medical issues that you donít want to disclose that prevents you from getting the vaccine at the recommendation of your doctor. If they push the issue, tell them that you will sue them for medical discrimination and HIPPA violations.
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Tell them that you have medical issues that you donít want to disclose that prevents you from getting the vaccine at the recommendation of your doctor. If they push the issue, tell them that you will sue them for medical discrimination and HIPPA violations.
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I brought up EUA and it fell on deaf ears. I speculated the boss' mind was made up before the our meeting. I knew that a policy and an ultimatum was going to happen. The ultimatum wasn't explicit, but we all knew what it was.

I was blunt in our meeting. She said she wanted to know what my concerns were and we'd discuss it. I told her my input would not have any effect on her decision or the policy.

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I brought up EUA and it fell on deaf ears. I speculated the boss' mind was made up before the our meeting. I knew that a policy and an ultimatum was going to happen. The ultimatum wasn't explicit, but we all knew what it was.

I was blunt in our meeting. She said she wanted to know what my concerns were and we'd discuss it. I told her my input would not have any effect on her decision or the policy.
I have to wonder if they would actually have the balls to fire you for that. The potential legal fight could be messy.

If you are going to try to ride it out, make sure your side of the house is as clean as you can make it so that they can't use some other issue as cause.
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Forcing an experimental medical treatment and they are relinquishing themselves from potential damages that may occur? Uh, no.
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We have three employees that have not vaccinated and the boss is trying to convince us to. If we do not, a policy will be issued next week (what about future employees?) One agreed to get it and another told me she will be looking for a new job. I am still contemplating. I have been with the company for over 20 years and I don't want to burn any bridges (I need a good reference.) I have a dilemma, do I stick with my beliefs and suffer the consequences or capitulate? I know it seems like a petty issue over a shot, but this issue doesn't sit well with me.
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We have three employees that have not vaccinated and the boss is trying to convince us to. If we do not, a policy will be issued next week (what about future employees?) One agreed to get it and another told me she will be looking for a new job. I am still contemplating. I have been with the company for over 20 years and I don't want to burn any bridges (I need a good reference.) I have a dilemma, do I stick with my beliefs and suffer the consequences or capitulate? I know it seems like a petty issue over a shot, but this issue doesn't sit well with me.

I refused the shot and notified my company that I will not comply. They are not pushing the issue.
My grounds were: Religious reasons and NoN-FDA approved unsafe vaccine .
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search around and find Legal council that is representing employees in similar situations and sue the business and manager .

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My grounds were: Religious reasons and NoN-FDA approved unsafe vaccine .
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search around and find Legal council that is representing employees in similar situations and sue the business and managers .
I suspect there will be many lawsuits - if employers push this nonsense.
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I refused the shot and notified my company that I will not comply. They are not pushing the issue.
My grounds were: Religious reasons and NoN-FDA approved unsafe vaccine .
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search around and find Legal council that is representing employees in similar situations and sue the business and manager .
Keep documents on everything, emails, hand written notes, everything. If it is not on paper it does not exist. Take them home.

Talk to everyone you can at work about it and record their names and the date. It does not matter if they are part of it. IF you do go to court subpoena everyone as witnesses. That will shut down the business. It will give you leverage for a settlement.

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I know people that got the shot and are fine (and are still gun-owning patriots to boot) so I'd say get the shot and save the fighting for something that isn't a petty issue.
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I know people that got the shot and are fine (and are still gun-owning patriots to boot) so I'd say get the shot and save the fighting for something that isn't a petty issue.
Forcing you to inject something into your body, much less something lacking a long term history is not a petty issue.

More people need to reject this.
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Forcing you to inject something into your body, much less something lacking a long term history is not a petty issue.

More people need to reject this.
I brought that up. There have been no long term tests done on the vaccines. I have a problem with an experimental substance injected into my body.

When the talk of protecting others came up, I very frankly stated "ultimately, I'm number one."
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I wouldn't consider injectng an untested substance into one's body a "petty issue". If that's your stance, I imagine you'd roll right over for 2A confiscation since it's a petty issue to some. What about "My body' my choice"? Works for the pro-abortion devils.
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How can they legally make it mandatory? I work in a hospital directly caring for patients in the East Bay and it's not even mandatory there.
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Op, don't ignore your gut feeling. Document everything and use email to discuss the situation. Don't quit your job and talk to lawyer.
If everyone in the office is vaccinated except you, then why are you a threat if it works? Btw, what type of job is this?
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All of this coronavirus stuff is basically a huge game of chicken and theyíre hoping youíll back down first which it looks like youíre going to.

It is not just a shot, itís future unknown medical conditions. Maybe your kidney gives out maybe you start to have liver issues either way the coronavirus disease is influenza and itís nothing to really worry about in the first place.

If it was me I would get an attorney ASAP just like the private message I sent you they legally canít do this. These people donít realize what theyíre getting themselves into and theyíre playing with other peoples money and thatís why they make decisions like this. Just stand your ground!
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Time to change jobs. Probably best to tell a few White Lies about you are moving to other area because wife etc, and that is why you need a nice recommendation. But you probably screwed the pooch and they will think you are indeed quitting over Vaxx policy and be pissy about it.

Oh well, at least it sounds like you are in a pretty "general" profession and always lots of openings in all areas at some pay grade.

Figure this is a blessing in disguise because:

1)It kinda shows what they think of employees and you in particular, don't it?
It ain't like boss took you aside and said "Its policy but you are valuable so I'm not gonna push it if you got strong feelings, but promise me you will keep kicking *** because you are on promotion fast track".

2)Big Changes afoot in "property management" with Black Rock, Buffet and other mega players buying up all residential property with unlimited free money from "The Fed", so maybe this is NOT the time to stick with your stuck in mud current job.
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OP sorry you are in such a sh**hole company. We will not need to take the jab and definitely would never force our team to take it either. If you can leave. The leadership will not be swayed by your stance. All employees are expendable (no offense), so look out for yourself and your loved ones depending on you. Share your logical reasons why you refuse to take the jab. But know many employers will comply with the pressure to get the jab. No one knows how unsafe this jab is and what other uses it serves like being the Mark of the Beast. Trust your intuition. Stay safe and God Bless.
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Wow, not even the military is making it mandatory. That tells you alot right there.
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