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In the "don't bother us" email I got from CMP a couple days ago this is what they said regarding the condition of the rack grade rifles;

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The Rack grade is our lowest grade rifle we sell. It will be in very ruff condition, most purchases these for wall hangers or parts only. It has been fired but will not be any good for just a fun day at the range. If you want to enjoy shooting it I would recommend to pay a little more or the RM1Expert for $1100
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In the "don't bother us" email I got from CMP a couple days ago this is what they said regarding the condition of the rack grade rifles;
You're an hour too late - the post-mistress picked up my mail already. I'm in, so we're gonna see what shows up. I still think I'll come up on the right side of things.
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You're an hour too late - the post-mistress picked up my mail already. I'm in, so we're gonna see what shows up. I still think I'll come up on the right side of things.
Ha oh I agree. Even a shot out M1 that was dragged behind a half-track is worth the rack grade price. And if some find that debatable, hold on to that M1 for 5 or 10 years and then reassess.
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Ha oh I agree. Even a shot out M1 that was dragged behind a half-track is worth the rack grade price. And if some find that debatable, hold on to that M1 for 5 or 10 years and then reassess.
The thing is, I don't really need any more Garands...... but I like project guns, and these sound like they'll fit the bill in spades. If I get a couple of rehab-able units, I get a satisfying project to play with and interest me. As we all know, the secondary market on these have gone crazy - I saw one go for $1,850 at a local auction house last Friday. So unless they are totally wrecked I don't think I can get hurt.
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........the secondary market on these have gone crazy - I saw one go for $1,850 at a local auction house last Friday. So unless they are totally wrecked I don't think I can get hurt.
What auction house might I ask? PM me if you don't want to ID it here.

I have 35 "PRISTINE"/CORRECT units I am looking to liquidate.

FROM a correct Winchester EO unit, to Win-13's.

To GASTRAP SA units.

To Correct/collector grade SA's.

To CMP, Collector grade HRA's, IHC's, and a MATCHED PAIR of ORIGINAL first production run IHC's.

An all correct BREDA (by Dean Dillabaugh) RIP.

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So please PM me with this auction house info...I'm in the market to sell.

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No one can reasonably expect the prices of 20 or more years ago to be the same today. That's just silly and irrational. Everything from cmp still sells below open market value, yet everyone still complains.
How much was Gas 20 years ago
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What auction house might I ask? PM me if you don't want to ID it here.
It's just a local po-dunk auction house here in Idaho, about 6 miles from me. I sent you a PM, but I do not think it is the best venue to move your stuff.
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National average in 2013 was about $3.50/gallon. CA was just over $4, so not too much different.
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They used to come via registered mail or FedEx back in the day, right to your doorstep.
My one and only Garand (so far) came that way, registered mail right to my doorstep. No FFL required. And it wasn't that long ago. 10 years? Maybe a few more than that. A very nice Service Grade HRA.
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Here's an example of a rack grade


https://www.reddit.com/r/milsurp/com...m_source=share
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She’ll clean up pretty good, I always prefer GI wood vs new wood. High Number so barrel should be fine.

She would be ready to go back into action if this was the Ukraine
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She’ll clean up pretty good, I always prefer GI wood vs new wood. High Number so barrel should be fine.

She would be ready to go back into action if this was the Ukraine
The wood is the least of worries. I have seen sewer pipes in better shape than that bore. That ain't gonna buff out


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The wood is the least of worries. I have seen sewer pipes in better shape than that bore. That ain't gonna buff out
Honestly, I would not be thrilled if I received a rifle with a bore like that. BUT - the rest of that rifle looks decent (save the spring), and that wood will clean up nicely despite how it looks now. Plus, I've seen bores like that shoot decently and get "polished up" some by shooting lots of FMJ through them. Heat and cleaning can sometimes get rid of a lot of crud and smooth over pitting..... and it quite possibly will shoot OK as-is. I had a Winchester lever gun with a bore that seemed to absorb light like a Black Hole, but easily held the black off-hand and got shinier the more I shot it. You never know.......

If the two I ordered have decent bores and USGI wood, I'll consider it a win.
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The wood is the least of worries. I have seen sewer pipes in better shape than that bore. That ain't gonna buff out

Looks pretty rough but yeah, he won't know for sure until he puts a couple hundred rounds through it.

I am curious though... The throat and muzzle erosion numbers were pretty good (+2 and +1), so this rifle was NOT shot too much (throat erosion tells you that for sure). So WHAT EXACTLY would cause the barrel to be so rough?

Rust? Corrosive ammo used without proper cleaning? Was there ever corrosive ammo used in Garands?

Something pitted the heck out that thing!
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I am curious though... The throat and muzzle erosion numbers were pretty good (+2 and +1), so this rifle was NOT shot too much (throat erosion tells you that for sure). So WHAT EXACTLY would cause the barrel to be so rough?

Rust? Corrosive ammo used without proper cleaning? Was there ever corrosive ammo used in Garands?

Something pitted the heck out that thing!
I would guess extended time a humid climate, and neglect. Maybe a Philippine returned rifle? I know the CMP got a lot of those back, and they were stored in less than optimum conditions.
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Have you run brushes and patches through the Barrel?…..that should clean up. You didn’t buy a Brand New Rifle. Some steam, light…….very light sanding then some Raw Linseed Oil and that stock will look a lot better too.

This is a Rack Grade correct?
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Have you run brushes and patches through the Barrel?…..that should clean up. You didn’t buy a Brand New Rifle..........This is a Rack Grade correct?
Those pictures are from a Rack Grade posted on Reddit, not someone here - see reply #50. We have no answers for you.
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the first couple years CMP operated just like DCM- 1 per customer per lifetime.

they shipped Service grades only at $310.

when they changed the one per rule is when the current grading system came into effect. I want to say FY1999.
The one I got is probably a service grade. The one my friend got was brand spanking new. I mean perfect, like never even put in a rack.
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Looks pretty rough but yeah, he won't know for sure until he puts a couple hundred rounds through it.

I am curious though... The throat and muzzle erosion numbers were pretty good (+2 and +1), so this rifle was NOT shot too much (throat erosion tells you that for sure). So WHAT EXACTLY would cause the barrel to be so rough?

Rust? Corrosive ammo used without proper cleaning? Was there ever corrosive ammo used in Garands?

Something pitted the heck out that thing!
From that reddit thread, heres the same bore after cleaning it a little.

Yeah, that's kinda rough

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From that reddit thread, heres the same bore after cleaning it a little.

Yeah, that's kinda rough
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Ha - look at his thumbnail.
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I received my two Garands today. Both SAs. One was definitely rougher than the other. One was 1,8XX,XXX and the other 3,1XX,XXX. The 1,8XX,XXX had a muzzle 3 and TE of 6. The other rifle did not note the muzzle or throat measurements on the hang tag.

Now I have to dig in to what I need to report to CFARS and the appropriate entry into the bound book.

I'll report more out when I have a chance to inspect the bore to see what they look like.

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National average in 2013 was about $3.50/gallon. CA was just over $4, so not too much different.
That was less than 10 years ago when we had another dumb *** in office.

20 years ago gas was $1.25.
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My order for two rack grades is now showing under my CMP E-store account. I am really, really curious as to what's going to show up. Expectations are low...... but fingers are crossed!
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My order for two rack grades is now showing under my CMP E-store account. I am really, really curious as to what's going to show up. Expectations are low...... but fingers are crossed!
Just got my two rack grades, honestly was better than I was expecting. The TE and ME was 1 and 1+, unmeasured on the 2md though probably similar. Minor corrosion that had been parkerized over, dry as a bone with surface rust.





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Just got my two rack grades, honestly was better than I was expecting. The TE and ME was 1 and 1+, unmeasured on the 2md though probably similar. Minor corrosion that had been parkerized over, dry as a bone with surface rust.





Not too shabby! The one bore looks little rough but might fill in with some rounds through it. Any cartouches on the wood, USGI?
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Not too shabby! The one bore looks little rough but might fill in with some rounds through it. Any cartouches on the wood, USGI?
Congrats!
There's a rack number stamped into one stock otherwise unmarked and the handguards don't match. Bores were very dirty so we'll see how they look after a scrubbing. They won't be match winners but are are a few cuts above sewer pipes.
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There's a rack number stamped into one stock otherwise unmarked and the handguards don't match. Bores were very dirty so we'll see how they look after a scrubbing. They won't be match winners but are are a few cuts above sewer pipes.
How the bores look and how they shoot, they might surprise ya. Looks like one handguard is birch?

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The barrels don't look horrible to me. The stocks don't look like walnut, but they should clean up ok.

I'd be totally fine with those two.
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The barrels don't look horrible to me. The stocks don't look like walnut, but they should clean up ok.

I'd be totally fine with those two.
Yeah absolutely. After seeing some of the pictures on the CMP forums and the ones earlier in this thread, and getting an email from the CMP where they basically warned "these are rack grades most people use them as parts guns". I was a little concerned about what I would get. Both of these rifles I'm pleased with and exceed what I was expecting.
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Yeah absolutely. After seeing some of the pictures on the CMP forums and the ones earlier in this thread, and getting an email from the CMP where they basically warned "these are rack grades most people use them as parts guns". I was a little concerned about what I would get. Both of these rifles I'm pleased with and exceed what I was expecting.
I'd do a bit of wood swapping - the rear hand guard on the top rifle looks like a close match for the front hand guard on the bottom rifle. Then I'd strip one of the stocks, and stain/finish it to match the hand guards. I'll bet that stock on the top one would approximate walnut very nicely with the right stain. I'd weird that way - I don't like mismatched wood.
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I'd do a bit of wood swapping - the rear hand guard on the top rifle looks like a close match for the front hand guard on the bottom rifle. Then I'd strip one of the stocks, and stain/finish it to match the hand guards. I'll bet that stock on the top one would approximate walnut very nicely with the right stain. I'd weird that way - I don't like mismatched wood.
Ha you aren't wrong! I just picked up a walnut front handguard to replace the beech one, I'm going to try and get the wood to match as best as I can.
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Just got my two rack grades, honestly was better than I was expecting. The TE and ME was 1 and 1+, unmeasured on the 2md though probably similar. Minor corrosion that had been parkerized over, dry as a bone with surface rust.
What is up with that lacquer/acrylic clear coat on the top one? Don't think I've ever seen that on a CMP gun, let alone any US government-sourced gun no matter where it came from, unless it were on a chromed or frilly parade gun by a subsequent org like a State-Police, ROTC, or National Guard.



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My order just went from "open" to "processing" today. I can't wait to see what shows up.
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Shipped today....... what will show up? Stay tuned!
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The trigger group lockup is very very weak. There is hardly any resistance, and the receiver moves within the stock. I will have to add some shims when I go shoot it.

One of the best gun purchases I've made, $650 for a piece of history.

I know the sling is upside down, just easier to pull it real tight that way.
If it is loose when the trigger guard is clamped, the obvious thing to check is the lugs on the trigger guard which engage with the receiver.

If they are worn-- you can see a picture here, halfway down the page, under "Inspecting the Trigger Assembly"-- then a possible remedy is to buy a replacement trigger guard, from Numrich/Gun Parts or similar. Milled would be correct for your rifle, and that is what your photo shows is on there now, but many rifles were rebuilt with stamped.

Alternatively, you could try what this guy did. The end of the lugs on the trigger guard are supposed to be round, not shaped like a letter "D".

I've seen rifles where they (not CMP, this was an arsenal rebuild) repaired a stock that was not "tall" enough in the area of the magazine by adding some wood. I don't have a picture handy but basically what the armorer would do is, remove a small amount of wood at the bottom of the magazine well where the trigger group contacts the stock on both sides, and replace it with new wood. This is not a repair I personally would attempt; I think I would try fiberglass bedding before I would try replacing the wood around the magazine well.

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Update: this guy has pictures of a glass bedding job. The area I am referring to where an arsenal rebuild added wood to the magazine well is pictured below. The picture is obviously from the linked site, and shows glass bedding in place of new wood, but you get the idea.


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Just glue a thin strip of walnut veneer where trigger guard sets.
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Yes worn......
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@Ayy_Lmao instead of that web sling, a nice M1907 sling can be money well-spent. If you get a good one-- Ron Brown or a Turner-- it should not be kept in your safe with a goldenrod or other dehumidifier. Rather, keep it off the rifle, so it doesn't dry out.

You can find videos of how to put one on the rifle, and how to sling up.

There's a few different ways to do that, but even if you don't regularly shoot matches, you can't go wrong with a proper sling. FYI, pics below show an innovative way to sling up; in that video linked above, Greg Ficklin (NRA HP XTC High Master, Distinguished Rifleman #2198, CMP GSM Master Inst.) shows the more conventional use.





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