AR Pistol Lowers?

[anyracoon]

What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?

[tabascoz28]

Not sure it makes a difference. If it is ever sold or investigated it needs to be marked semi pistol in the paperwork. I have a lower that says M4 Government use only or something. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Capybara]

Markings don't really matter, it's how it was created and sold/registered that matters. I could take one of my AR rifles and have the receiver engraved "pistol',
but legally, that is meaningless as it's not a pistol.

[hitdank]

I think he may be refering to the aero "PISTOL" lower receiver. It is how you dros it in california that matters.

[SISKIN]

I have an EDS Tactical with markings that says Pistol Only. But it was DROS'ed as a semi auto...

[naz]

Originally Posted by SISKIN

I have an EDS Tactical with markings that says Pistol Only. But it was DROS'ed as a semi auto...

The key thing to look at on the dros is whether it says “handgun”

[Capybara]

Originally Posted by naz

The key thing to look at on the dros is whether it says “handgun”

Is it true that the only legal way to acquire an AR Pistol today in California is to DROS a Franklin Arms CA-7 or PPT a used pistol registered AR lower or AR pistol firearm?

There is no other currently legal path in California to acquire an AR pistol unless you are exempt, correct? Because of the roster, there are no dimensionally compliant semi-automatic lowers or semi automatic AR pistols on the roster. The CA-7 is a bolt action pistol so it is exempt, correct?

I've tried following this for a while and it does seem bit confusing.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by anyracoon

What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?

Location: Now Free America - S.E. Reno

Not everyone here read that info.

I'm guessing you are talking about one you bought in NV?

If so, just build a pistol on it and enjoy. I probably wouldn't build a rifle on it as it may confuse LEO's and is not worth trying to explain it to them.

[beanz2]

Originally Posted by anyracoon

What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?

Always build it first into a pistol. Then build it into a rifle or SBR once you have the stamp. That way it is legal to revert back to a pistol.

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Not everyone here read that info.

I'm guessing you are talking about one you bought in NV?

If so, just build a pistol on it and enjoy. I probably wouldn't build a rifle on it as it may confuse LEO's and is not worth trying to explain it to them.

Now, this guy reads his posts carefully.

In NV I wouldn't worry about it even if it says "pistol", unless it is built into a SBR and you don't have the stamp.

[anyracoon]

The reason I asked is I'm thinking of building some AR Pistols for the grandkids and they are all still in Cali.

[SISKIN]

Originally Posted by naz

The key thing to look at on the dros is whether it says “handgun”

Yes it does say handgun on the dros...

[ysr_racer]

I've seen AR pistol lowers in the marketplace for $700 to $1000. Crazy

[naz]

Originally Posted by Capybara

Is it true that the only legal way to acquire an AR Pistol today in California is to DROS a Franklin Arms CA-7 or PPT a used pistol registered AR lower or AR pistol firearm?

There is no other currently legal path in California to acquire an AR pistol unless you are exempt, correct? Because of the roster, there are no dimensionally compliant semi-automatic lowers or semi automatic AR pistols on the roster. The CA-7 is a bolt action pistol so it is exempt, correct?

I've tried following this for a while and it does seem bit confusing.

You can also dros a single shot exempt pistol that’s put together by an ffl07

”forum consensus” seems to be that ppt a pistol registered lower that’s dros as semi auto handgun is a bit more certain since there is speculation gov will try to jam you up on “manufacturing unsafe handgun” charge if you convert a single shot exempt or bolt action repeater (ca7) to semi auto, since there is no test case for that yet

AW rules still apply too, so maglock with 10rd mags if it’s semi auto

[damngato]

Since it is for his direct grandkids can't he just do an intrafamilial transfer through a FFL once each pistol has the CA compliance component taken care of

[Milsurp1]

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[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by damngato

Since it is for his direct grandkids can't he just do an intrafamilial transfer through a FFL DEALER once each pistol has the CA compliance component taken care of

FIFY

Yes. The hard part will be finding a CA dealer willing to do this kind of transfer on this kind of pistol.

[ar15robert]

Im in AZ and bought a couple stripped lowers recently and built them into pistols first.My dros does not say pistol or rifle though.Think it was listed as other.

One is complete the other has lower parts kit and buffer since i took the parts from it to build on my fde aero lower.Did this for future reasons build pistol first so i can turn it back if i choose.

I was wondering how this would work for CA if i choose to gift it to my mother i know i have to make it compliant which is no biggie.Just wondering how they would dros it in ca.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by ar15robert

Im in AZ and bought a couple stripped lowers recently and built them into pistols first.My dros does not say pistol or rifle though.Think it was listed as other.

One is complete the other has lower parts kit and buffer since i took the parts from it to build on my fde aero lower.Did this for future reasons build pistol first so i can turn it back if i choose.

I was wondering how this would work for CA if i choose to gift it to my mother i know i have to make it compliant which is no biggie.Just wondering how they would dros it in ca.

You are now in AZ you DID NOT do a DROS on the lowers you bought in AZ. The DROS process is strictly a CA thing.

All you did in AZ was fill out a 4473 and you would be correct in that they were listed as an "other" on the 4473. A stripped lower is a Title 1 Other. You are free to build a pistol or rifle out of a Title 1 Other in AZ and probably most other states in the union.

[Jimi Jah]

Originally Posted by anyracoon

What are the rules using a AR lower marked "Pistol" vs a regular AR lower?

They are whatever your local DA says they are.

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