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Old 04-21-2021, 5:12 AM
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What's the plan Tom? My truck is giving me fitz. I wouldn't dare a trip to the Mojave right now.
I was just about ready to send Chris a PM about his truck. I see the 5.0 is the largest V8 they offer in 2015. Maybe we can talk about it in the Mojave....
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How ya doing Chris? Naw, this is a simple house maintenance we've been doing for, what, 30 years. It's an older place in AV that requires such. We go there, do what may be needed, then sit around and leave. If we have time, we'll shoot. But, probably not. Hopefully we can, but, we'll see.
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Tom was just testing the waters....

Hey Chris, what engine do you have in your F150?
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Old 04-22-2021, 6:40 AM
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My truck has the best engine Ford has ever made: the twin-cam, four-valve V8 "Coyote". 5.0 liters. 2016 model year. Advertised 385 HP/387 lb/ft. The aluminum-bodied (2015+) F150 with this engine is amazing (as are the twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6 and the 2.7 twin turbo V6 EcoBoost engines).

[Yes, the V6s all have twin-cam cylinder head designs, but this Coyote V8 with the same architecture reminds us of the famous Cosworth DFV. No other American truck maker offers an engine like this]

Coyote 5.0 V8 Design and Development

Beginning in late 2017 and into 2018, the F150 variant of the Coyote had oil consumption issues. Rather than use iron cylinder liners in the alloy block, Ford started (effectively-) 3D printing the liners within the block castings. The bore liners were thin to begin with but when printed they are only like .050" thick. Apparently they didn't get the rings/bore finish right.

My 2016 doesn't use a drop. If you want the V8 I'd look for a '15, '16 or lightly-used '19 or '20. The Coyote 5.0 was offered in the F150 as early as m.y. 2011... but those are steel-bodied trucks weighing almost 700 lbs heavier than the equivalent body style '15+ trucks. That said, I wouldn't be mind owning a '14 if it came down to it.

blah blah blah

Put it this way: I love this dang truck. See what's posted on Ford's Certified Pre Owned webpages (I think it's a dealer program, so all trucks are listed according to dealership). It's how I found mine in April of '17 but I had to look through 120 trucks to find it. Everything available had the one of the three V6s in them (the third being the naturally-aspirated 3.5 [3.3 beginning in '17]).


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I’m quite a few years out of date about the newer generations of domestic trucks, but I will say with conviction that the truck that Apples drives is the cleanest, best cared for vehicle that I’ve seen anyone daily drive, bar none.
It is cleaner that all the fire apparatus I used to operate and maintain, over a long career.
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Old 04-22-2021, 7:01 AM
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Why, thank you, Mr. Splithoof. That is indeed a compliment, and as you can attest it does see off-highway travel.

It does get cleaned up from time to time but right now it's covered in santa ana-blown dust and springtime pollen, all mixed together with coastal dewfall into a nice surface crust.



I do clean the glass before I drive it (professional habit), just about every time I drive it, though.
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I'd like to join!

I have a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, Marlin 336, Henry H001 (to gift to my son when he is of age) and not a lever, but a Henry pump action .22 that my dad gifted to me.

If it helps with my application, I proposed to my wife inside the Lava Tubes in Mojave. Need to get back out there again.

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...I proposed to my wife inside the Lava Tubes in Mojave. Need to get back out there again.

Ah! Now here! is a dedicated aficionado of the Mojave.

You are now added to the MLC membership roll! Welcome aboard.


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Must have had temporary brain damage. I still have the Winchester 88 so I'm back in the club!

FYI the trigger is smooth and she shoots sub MOA.
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Nabbed myself a .22 Henry, happy to finally have a lever in the arsenal. Funny enough it wasn’t an expected purchase. I had just bought a Ruger Wrangler and Maverick 12g and thought I was done buying for a while. But my pal had been hunting a Golden Boy all pandemic and got dang tired of em being sold out everywhere so he bought a standard model. And wouldn’t you know it? Bass Pro got one in the next day. So being the good friend that I am I bought his standard model. Now I have .22LR cowboy set up, a single action six shooter and a lever rifle.

Always wanted some lever guns, just quit work to go back to school though so the rest of my want list will have to wait a few years. I want (in order):
A 45-70
A 44 mag
A .357 mag
And a 30-30 because that was my dad’s favorite caliber. I think all the 30-30 carbines in the revolutionary war left a mighty big impression on the Mexican people.

Matching revolvers in 44 mag and .357 will of course be required

Anywho, hope I can trek out there to shoot with y’all one day. Ain’t that far from my home in the SGV.
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Old 05-09-2021, 5:19 PM
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kk, that's good to hear. Congrats!

Lately I've been shooting my .22 Marlin and love it. Glad to have maintained a stash of .22 rimfire over the years. Now I might use it all up! Hahaha...

Say, you might be a little more specific about *which* revolutionary war... granted, there were no metallic cartridges in the Colonies in 1776... so we're going to assume you mention the Mexican Revolution occuring over 11 or 12 years starting 1910; this pushed a lot of Mexican folks to seek peace and stability in the U.S. during those years.

The .30 Winchester Center Fire/.30WCF/.30-30 [Marlin's designation, btw] was the first centerfire rifle cartridge to use the then-new *smokeless* powder. The .30-30 then went on to claim, to this day, the reputation for being the cartridge that has put more venison onto the American dinner table than any other cartridge in history.

Guess that would be in addition to the impression it made upon the Mexican people who used it in their Revolution.

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Nabbed myself a .22 Henry, happy to finally have a lever in the arsenal. Funny enough it wasnít an expected purchase. I had just bought a Ruger Wrangler and Maverick 12g and thought I was done buying for a while. But my pal had been hunting a Golden Boy all pandemic and got dang tired of em being sold out everywhere so he bought a standard model. And wouldnít you know it? Bass Pro got one in the next day. So being the good friend that I am I bought his standard model. Now I have .22LR cowboy set up, a single action six shooter and a lever rifle.

Always wanted some lever guns, just quit work to go back to school though so the rest of my want list will have to wait a few years. I want (in order):
A 45-70
A 44 mag
A .357 mag
And a 30-30 because that was my dadís favorite caliber. I think all the 30-30 carbines in the revolutionary war left a mighty big impression on the Mexican people.

Matching revolvers in 44 mag and .357 will of course be required

Anywho, hope I can trek out there to shoot with yíall one day. Ainít that far from my home in the SGV.
I'm sure you've heard the Mexican folk song celebrating the Winchester 1894's role in the Mexican Revolution

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so we're going to assume you mention the Mexican Revolution
Nailed it, that's the one. My understanding is that the revolutionaries were armed with a hodgepodge of weapons, whatever they could get their hands on really. But the rifles chambered in 30-30 were favorites because they were effective and ammo was easily obtained across the border from the Americans.

My dad was from rural Mexico, as a kid he worked for one of the local landowners herding their goats up and down the mountain side. He'd hunt rabbits and other small critters for that evenings meal at home. Loved being here in the states and collecting firearms. Sadly he passed away from heart troubles in 2015, but I still take out the Mauser he gave me to toss some 8mm lead downrange for him.

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I'm sure you've heard the Mexican folk song celebrating the Winchester 1894's role in the Mexican Revolution
It's really good! The lyrics include a diss on a federal general who "never had fear", I love it. These old folk songs were a great way to spread the word that some guy stinks haha.
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Beetle, thanks always! for your excellent contributions to our cause.



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I'm going to Utah and Arizona again next week. It's been too long for me. I think the last time I shot a gun was last July or August.. I need to be saved
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Must have had temporary brain damage. I still have the Winchester 88 so I'm back in the club!

FYI the trigger is smooth and she shoots sub MOA.
what a great gun to remember having! and nice to hear it's a straight shooter

I'm a fan myself, even have it's m100 cousin

ironic so many threw poo poo on the m88 in this thread

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The only real detraction I hear about the Model 88 is the trigger. I loved it when it and the Model 100 came out in my youth, as well as the look-alike Sako Finnwolf! I never had the opportunity to shoot any of them, however.

There were a few smokeless cartridges before the .30-30 - they were primarily military rounds like the 8mm Lebel from 1888. We had the .30-40 Krag or .30 US, adopted in 1892.

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I'm going to Utah and Arizona again next week. It's been too long for me. I think the last time I shot a gun was last July or August.. I need to be saved
Be safe with your journeys Mark. We'll talk when you get back.

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There were a few smokeless cartridges before the .30-30 - they were primarily military rounds like the 8mm Lebel from 1888. We had the .30-40 Krag or .30 US, adopted in 1892.

I sit corrected. Would it then be more accurate to state that the .30 WCF might have been the first smokeless powder cartridge chambering in any lever rifle or lever carbine?...

Because this is after all the Mojave Lever Crew.

And as much as I admire Krags and Mausers I surely cotton to my lever actions.


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I sit corrected. Would it then be more accurate to state that the .30 WCF might have been the first smokeless powder cartridge chambering in any lever rifle or lever carbine?...

Because this is after all the Mojave Lever Crew.

And as much as I admire Krags and Mausers I surely cotton to my lever actions.



Chris - yes, you could say that as well it was the first commercially made smokeless rifle in the US, I believe.
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Man, I need to get out and burn some smokeless myself. Burro sounds quick and easy. Hmm.

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I will be taking my son and his new bride shooting at Apple Valley on Wed. I haven't asked him what he wants to shoot yet.
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New bride!? Well heck, congrats there CH! Awesome.

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I will be taking my son and his new bride shooting at Apple Valley on Wed. I haven't asked him what he wants to shoot yet.
Thatís kool...
When my daughter is in town, she brings her new husband (since August) along to to our club, and teaches him how to shoot. I get to enjoy that, and also to supply all the ammo, and whatever else they need for the day. Itís a hoot.
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I seem to recall hearing that May 12th is MLC co-founder golfish's birthday!


So, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Mark!






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I seem to recall hearing that May 12th is MLC co-founder golfish's birthday!


So, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Mark!






Thanks Chris .... 62 and ready for my SS monthly stimulus
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Hey, how about that! Happy Birthday Mark. Enjoy!

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Hey, how about that! Happy Birthday Mark. Enjoy!

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I visited Phillips this morning, they had s nice supply of Xtream bullets.

I stopped by Gunslingers just to look around. They had a nice supply of hand guns and modern long guns.

I took a drive up San Gabriel canyon, both reservoirs are way down.

I sold some factory .357 /38sp rounds to a gentleman that just bought a nice Ruger GP100 or 101 and couldn't find any ammo for it. It felt good helping out a fellow shooter. I didn't rape him on the price either.

Next week we're going to visit some friends in Az and go to the north rim of the GC. I'm looking forward to this trip.

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Happy Birthday, Mark!

We did go shooting today, and my new daughter-in-law did very well for a first time shooter. Michael started Erika off with a Taurus .22 pump and then went to a heavy barreled AR. It was only 50 yards but she was soon making center head shots on a silhouette.

Michael had to show off and start ringing the gongs at 200 and then 400 yards...even the grapefruit sized dueling tree paddles! He didn't miss once. In the picture, he is shooting my Cooper 204 Ruger but he was also hitting them 100% with my Tikka T# Lite in .243.
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^^^^I sincerely hope neither of those young folks ever have to deal with an eye injury due to a leaking primer, blown case, etc. Some high quality shooting glasses might make a great gift.
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