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Let's be fair about one thing, there is a legitimate reason to not allow steel case* ammo in indoor ranges. Unburnt powder collects at the backstop, and steel strikes can start a fire, or do damage to the backstop itself.
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He thinks that the Dems have a solid lock out on 10+ mags. Except for “freedom week.” The guy is an idiot, and doesn’t want to comprehend the law. You sound like you work there or are related to the guy. It’s okay for you to say someone is an idiot if they are. Your comment earlier about the owner “protecting his friends” is an almost exact quote of what he said yesterday. We’re you the other guy behind the counter? |
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Im sorry mr handicapped man, I didn't mean to offend you Quote:
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Any other slurs youd like to fling?
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Now that that is out of the way, I neither work there, nor am I related. I am a regular patron at his range. I have talked with him and discussed legalities of certain issues. I have persuaded him on some, he has shown me otherwise on other issues. You calling him an idiot because he misunderstands CA law, is stupid. |
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Sure, if youd like to keep being a goofy holier than thou keyboardist
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I didn't criticize your buddy, i mentioned gun enthusiasts in general. You took it as a direct attack on your paramour, apparently. You thought you were going to flip that on me, but failed miserably. It was neither applicable nor witty. It just flopped. Then you appear to have called me retarded or otherwise handicapped. You are an emotionally driven shallow thinker, and youre in over your head. Again, when trying to lord reasonableness over others, you should exhibit it yourself. Instantly devolving into a personal attack reveals what you truly are. And it isn't much. If you insist on skulking back and pretending to continue this, be original, stop trying to flip my words on me.
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Even most local news stations get this right. Sounds like the owner thinks because he owns a gun business, that his customers should just take his word.
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CRPA has issued their legal opinion. It's really hard to misunderstand something there. Last edited by riderr; 04-18-2019 at 10:44 AM.. |
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You want to discuss things? Lets do it. One of the only people in here that came close to offering any sort of real solution was eat dirt. You just came in and implied the owner knew nothing. Despite you not knowing him and going off of one anecdote from one person who went there once |
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Reload or not it’s your property and you should retrieve it no matter what the policy is. It’s brass, it has recycling value as well as can be sold to people who do reload. |
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I didn't “imply” anything. The word you are looking for in “infer”. YOU inferred that i was insulting your guy. I correctly stated that the most hard headed, certitudinous people are males who think they are correct about firearms. Argue all you want, i didnt pick a side, i just made an observation, which, if you weren't emotionally driven and invested, you would realize applies equally to the op. Tell me more about your self professed logic. Reaching for personal insults on at least two occasions in one thread would seem to lay that claim bare.
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Thanks for the warning. I would have left when they asked to fondle my guns.
I understand range owners trying to keep everything withing obvious compliance given public nuisance laws, but with RAW, BBRAW, featureless and maglocked rifles out there how can anyone working a gun counter tell what a "legal configuration" is anymore? |
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Is this the older white guy with mustache people are talking about?
Haven't been there in a log time, but have no problem with letting them see my rifle, got compliment on how light 2 of them are. Also have taken new shooters there without issues. Sister was there when some guy had his little kids there crying well he was shooting. That made her stay away for awhile. He also said one thread protector had flash hider characteristics, and said I can't use it there. But mostly no issues even when I would take 80% built guns there. |
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owner sounds like the typical gun store FUDDER that thinks their word is law.
glad i don't live near it so i would never have to visit the business. OP make sure to put a review online warning others. especially on google when you search the location. this way others who actually know the actual law on this can avoid it instead of losing out on their lane rental fee and getting the cops called on them.
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Print it out and frame it for all I care Cool |
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Furthermore, when you combine this newly found knowledge with 20+ years of your previous knowledge that SCM's have always been legal to possess and use, we wouldn't have this thread. But we do. So it begs the question. Was his policy on SCM's before Freedom Week just as anti-2a? And what OTHER anti-2a policies does he enforce or believe? Just in case you didn't know, SCM's were legal to use and own a month ago, a year ago, a decade+ ago and every day in between. |
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FWIW in my experience there the guy seems just plain scared of ‘scary black rifles’ and if you take one expect a talking too like you’re a little child and multiple inspections throughout your shooting session.
Handguns only don’t seem to give him the same creepy crawlies, so I would imagine short of 50rnd drums & glock fun sticks you could shoot your SCM’s in handguns there without notice.... I’m really hoping he loosen’s up a little soon, and does his research. I really want to try out my new glock drum and D60 10mins away, instead of driving 2.5hrs to the desert roundtrip. Last edited by FlyingShooter; 04-18-2019 at 11:56 AM.. |
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He probably drives his Prius in the fast lane at 65 to make sure everyone is obeying the law. |
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I have not seen that word in a forum in a long, long, time
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Well, it's C87. His vernacular is sanctioned by the law
I do, however, take a shot everytime he says "clue" "wrong" and "blovat" I usually don't last after reading 3 of his posts.
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Well when “randos” are giving him EXACT legal answers on the law of 10+ Mags in FEATURELESS rifles, it’s not really an opinion. It’s FACT! Not like I was pushing him on a “gray area” subject. The law is very black and white. He chose to lose business over his feelings. Pretty dumb in my book...
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I will not be "Newhart"-ed, sir.
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Anywho, we all gotta get along, we are grown men, it's HELLA(CG NorCal) funny too see two people debate off-topic on an off-topic thread. My mind is boggled, plus I'm probably not helping either Last edited by deerdeerdeer; 04-18-2019 at 4:36 PM.. |
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Hey guys...
I really am no one to anyone, but is there any possibility that we can tone down the negativity? Look, I like spirited debate as much as the rest, but why are we attacking each other? Haven't the libtards in Sac got enough acreage in the gun debate? RE: Steel case. There are several reasons mentioned, but one poster spoke of the metal core of most steel cased ammunition. That's valid enough to warrant it, at least to me. Yes, many ranges also moonlight as brass salesmen, but if that's the case and is the only reason, they could just buy one of those rolling magnets and that solves the issue. They wouldn't have the customer relations problem. RE: My brass. Unless a range has it in writing that by signing below, I give up my right to recover my brass, then they don't have a right to keep it. Anything that falls forward of the firing line stays for obvious reasons, but behind it...if I dropped it, it's unquestionably mine still unless I abandon it there. IANAL, but there are some here who may be able to shed specific legal light on that. RE: Inspections of my gun. I agree with the posters who say his range, his rules, but I draw the line at them inspecting the firearm. Unless he is fully versed on the law, penal codes, and an LEO, he gets no such courtesy. I even question the LEO's ability on private property to do such an inspection, but I am not that well versed in the law to fight it since I am, technically, using in public view. I will simply say thank you for the lane time and leave. If it happens early on, I will insist on a refund, as the owner/employee's interference of my enjoyment of the facilities forced me to leave, but otherwise, I just don't come back and do what the OP did. Post about it. I have learned A LOT from those here far more knowledgeable than I am on everything gun related, but can we PLEASE stop antagonizing each other?
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He/she came out swinging. I'm guessing it's not the first time.
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Cheers Last edited by sl0re10; 04-18-2019 at 9:36 PM.. |
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seems like a long drive / lot of work to get thrown out.
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When I criticized the old* Angeles reloading store I got two. 50% more effort! * I think it is run by new people now so, of course, I'm over it now |
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