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Anti-Gun Bills Filed in New Mexico Legislature: Magazine Ban Legislation
Update Post #15: List of bills currently introduced and/or being debated.
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Congress critters in the Roundhouse are getting started for this session... Lots of real 'gems' to include HB 50, banning 'large capacity' magazines.
I won't go into some of the silly errors in the text of the law, because I'd love for them to be part of the law if passed... That being said, it's unconstitutional federally, and unconstitutional at the state level as well. Note that the state constitution expressly allows regulation of concealed carry and nothing else. If the state constitution allowed a ban on magazine capacity, it would say so plainly. NM Const. A2 S6: No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.) https://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/23%...se/HB0050.HTML |
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Wow, they are really pushing the states hard, just in time for their house of cards to fall. The more they pile on these already unconstitutional laws, the faster and better odds that some courts will actually follow Heller, McDonald, and NYSRPA v Bruen.
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If this passes they will get several years of use before any court overturns it. If overturned you won't get your mags back, "mission accomplished".
California has done this for years and it's the model for the other socialist states. |
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Lujan Grisham calls for ban on assault weapons in State of State address Quote:
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And.... now we have HB 101 filed. It's got a few laughable omissions and additions as well. (https://nmlegis.gov/Sessions/23%20Re...se/HB0101.html) TLDR: 1) Bans "large capacity ammunition feeding devices". No grandfather clause. No exceptions for any particular groups. 2) Bans "assault weapons" which are defined as: (a) semi-auto rifle with detachable magazine and one 'feature' (b) semi-auto rifle/pistol with a fixed magazine > 10 rds (c) semi-auto pistol with detachable magazine that accepts the magazine outside the grip, has a barrel shroud, has a second grip (which would make it not a pistol), or a folding/telescoping/thumbhole stock (I guess fixed stocks on pistols don't make them not pistols? lol) (d) semi-auto shotguns with a pistol grip or thumbhole stock, any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand, a folding or telescoping stock, a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds, or an ability to accept a detachable magazine (e) shotguns with revolving cylinders (f) conversion kits and parts that can be used to make an 'assault weapon' The AW ban has no grandfathering, but does have the standard exceptions for police, military in pursuance of duty, etc |
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Wait, so cops and local LEO will not be able to carry 10+ mags in the performance of their duties? That’s new.
Usually they get a carve out. Since it’s in its infancy, I wonder if there’s been any pushback on this. Seems like NM was lax with gun laws and nothing catastrophic has occurred. Yet all of a sudden, the need for these laws is necessary? |
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Kinda reminds me of...
Yeah. I know. Those simply represent glitches. The real ones are much... uh... safer... and are incapable of... oh... Never mind. |
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We have a part time legislature. The New Mexico Legislature convenes in Santa Fe at 12:00 noon on the third Tuesday in January of each year. The Legislature holds 60- day sessions in odd-numbered years and 30-day sessions in even- numbered years.
These things get proposed every session, but don't make it through before the session ends... Haven't passed yet. Not trying to downplay the risk though. Luckily, NM's constitutional RKBA is pretty solidly worded, and recently amended. Hard to argue NM didn't know about AR-15's and whatnot back in 1986, and the fact that explicitly lists the ability to regulate concealed carry without mentioning any other exception makes it hard to find any other authority. |
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Legislature 2023: Lawmakers pursue gun restrictions
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Sides clash on gun control bills as they advance through committee (Yahoo version if you hit a paywall.)
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NM House Bill 101 NM House Bill 164 NM SB 171 Those were the ones mentioned in the article. For other bills (see preceding post and others)... NM House Bill 59: CREATING THE CRIME OF UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF A FIREARM WHILE TRAFFICKING A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE House Bill 9: Create the crime of negligently making a firearm accessible to a minor. House Bill 50: Prohibit magazines with more than 10 rounds. House Bill 72: Prohibit possession of semiautomatic firearm converter that allows the weapon to fire more rapidly. NM House Bill 224: CREATING THE CRIME OF UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF A FIREARM WITHIN A HIGH POPULATION JURISDICTION AND WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF AN INTOXICANT OR NARCOTIC Senate Bill 44: Prohibit carrying a firearm within 100 feet of a polling place during an election. NM SB 114: PROVIDING FOR LICENSED CONCEALED CARRY OF A FIREARM IN RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE SPIRITUOUS LIQUORS AND CIDER Senate Bill 116: Raise the minimum age to 21 for purchasing an automatic or semiautomatic firearm. You're welcome to look for others here... NM Bill Tracker: All Bills in the 2023 Regular Session |
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The reactionaries in NM seem to be reacting badly to the NYSRPA v Bruen decision (and the implications to their agenda).
Now it’s libs trying to hurry up and ram it all through before it’s too late. |
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It's already too late. NYSRPA v bruen made that clear. I think we need a re-evaluation of qualified immunity when the lawmakers should reasonably be aware that their conduct constitutes a conspiracy to deprive citizens of their constitutional rights
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I agree that it’s likely already too late for them and almost added that to my post but refrained. I figured someone would come along and point out that scotus has not yet spelled it out in big bold crayon letters. The only thing that will deter these states is to be smacked across the back of the head with a cease and desist.
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It looks like HB 9 has passed the House in New Mexico and is moving on to the Senate.
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Senate passes first major gun control law of session
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Sometimes the key to understanding the legislation is that whether or not it passes is not the point in some cases. Fund-raising, deflection of criticism, and campaigning are.
So even in cases where the legislator is sure their bill will not pass, you submit it and then go back to your fascist district and donors and tell them how wonderful you are. Meanwhile others from similarly fascist districts sign on as co-sponsors and use that for fund-raising and campaigning. It's a fascist gift even if/when there is no chance of being enacted.
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Bill against straw purchases of guns advances in New Mexico
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They just won't stop, will they?
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Governor wants lawmakers to take up assault weapons ban in 2024
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Please excuse my ignorance. What happened in NM that made this tidal wave all of a sudden happen now?
As an above post noted?is it for campaigning, the National stage related to guns or is the state flipping before our eyes. Thanks for any educational response.
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I also suspect too many californians moving to NM and bringing their politics with them. I suspect the same is part of the problem in Nevada, Washington, Oregon and Colorado. I suspect this will also soon be a problem in Idaho and potentially Texas. The rural west has turned into populous western cities and sparsely populated rural areas.
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