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First, thank MudCamper so much for making this thread, which is very helpful for a lot of people. And also thank all the fellows who have answered questions in this thread.
Now, some specific questions. I am bringing family to Yosemite NP for the first time this weekend. I don't have a CCW but will get a hunting license (not getting a tag though). 1. If I want to carry a handgun, is the only legal way when hiking in the NP to unloaded conceal carry or locked unloaded cc? 2. If I want to carry a PCC, is the only legal way when hiking to UCC in a backpack? 3. Since I am using exemption with hunting license (I guess hunting is prohibited in Yosemite NP, so I can only use the exemption code related to "going to or from hunting"), do I have to bring unleaded ammo only? Edit: just read most posts in this thread, it seems that I should replace all "hunting" with "fishing" in my original post since hunting is not allowed in Yosemite. But then I need to carry a fishing pole while hiking Last edited by mi4; 05-24-2021 at 2:50 PM.. |
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So basically all the situations where you are more likely to rub into a bad guy with a gun are the exact ones where it is illegal to carry one? (Unless you have a cow permit)?
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Yosemite ranger saw me carrying a can of bear spray and said you can't use that inside the park... we will cite you if you do...I said OK.. a ticket or being bear food...duh !
I can see the ranger having a melt down if they saw a real firearm... what about while fishing , there is something in the code about that (?)
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.....Bear spray/pepper spray is not allowed in Yosemite. The intent is not to harm the bear, but to scare it from the area and restore its natural fear of people by providing a negative experience. What happens if the bear isn't scared? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
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“ LOC and UOC are legal everywhere except "prohibited areas" (areas where shooting is prohibited)
- LOC, UOC, UCC, and LCC are all legal in one's campsite. (PC 26055, 26383, & 25605)” So if I setup a campsite on a primitive campGROUND(just tables and fire rings) does they mean I can’t open carry within my campsite? |
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Huh, I thought you could OC in CA national parks, guess I was lucky the park ranger we met while backpacking didn't care about my gun lol. Good to know the law though.
So far I've carried in Death Valley, Zion, Valley of Fire, and Lassen. |
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Guess what, a CCW is a permit. Federal law says you can carry in National Parks so long as the state allows it. California allows it with a CCW. Just stay outta the staffed buildings as that's a Federal no-no. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weapons.htm The long list of all the rules at Yosemite is found here: https://www.nps.gov/yose/learn/manag...compendium.pdf There are other laws and and such in various parts of the park. It's very complicated, unfortunately, in that there is no one single place to check, and you've got to check all the places the laws and rules may be located. https://www.nps.gov/yose/learn/manag...ndpolicies.htm Last edited by Jason95357; 08-27-2023 at 10:27 AM.. Reason: typo fix |
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Hello Calgunners,
Has anyone camped in Tahoe Donner Campground in Truckee before ? If so please share if you know about their specific firearms policy. Thanks in advance ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Food for thought ..
What's the likelihood of getting caught illegally ccwing vs the likelihood of needing a weapon? Penalties for each? No encouragement one way or the other. Just food for thought. |
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Penalty for the former is a misdemeanor. Penalty for the latter is death. Which would you prefer?
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Link on main page to CA Parks is broken. Here is some good info:
https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=937#weapons Quote:
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Not sure the point being made here. Are you suggesting that if I walked into federal court and shot someone, I couldn't be charged with murder under state law? Because it occurred on federal premises? That would be a bizarre result. A California peace officer has jurisdiction in every inch of the State of California so far as I'm aware, including national parks. Let me know if I'm wrong about that.
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Hello, I had a question. If folks wanted to do an overnight ruck/backpacking trip on BLM land in CA, you could open carry a firearm (rifle/pistol) as long as you don’t find yourself in “prohibited areas” correct?
Aka for the whole trip you would need to avoid being within 150 yards of any residence, building, campsite, developed site, as well as roads or bodies of water? |
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I started this thread, but have abandoned it the last several years. Thanks to all those who have stepped in to help others with questions.
With the laws getting even more byzantine every year, and with our recent win with Bruen, my most recent personal solution has been to apply for a CA CCW. While that process is dragging out for months, so far it is looking good. |
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I spoke to the ranger at Stanislaus National Park today about this. There best advice; park, get gear, walk 200 steps and establish a shoot spot. Walk 270 degrees around your shoot spot making sure you "know what is behind your target and for others" and then enjoy the land of many uses. Hi-vis orange ONLY suggested during hunting season. And no one, no one has a sole right to any spot in the SNF. Apparently, last weekend a couple of camping hunters ran some others away from their "spot". It is "the land of many uses for all people"
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I and my friends used to hunt National Forest and BLM in Calaveras County for years back in the '80s-'90s every deer season with no issues, maybe big changes have occurred since then ? Railroad Flats, Glencoe and Summit Level Rd. Took a few Bambi's outa Summit Level Rd & Glencoe with my Garand and Mini 30.
Psalm 1 Last edited by Garand Hunter; 10-26-2022 at 1:40 PM.. Reason: spelling |
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Are you hitting the 90 day mark? I am doing some reading on ccw law here. Seems finding a definitive resource on ccw law is a tad tough row to hoe...
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If you need help on how to apply, look for your county specific discussion thread here. As for definitive info on laws we must follow as license holders, that bugged me also, so I did what I always do, created a complete document on the topic. Thread is here. Document is here: http://tinyurl.com/caccwlaws |
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