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Old 04-25-2021, 5:54 AM
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Is that even legal? There are some jobs where you are required to have specific vaccinations to be qualified to work or be licensed in that field, an EMT for example. But it is different to be an employee already than for them to come up with a new rule saying, ok, you now have to go get this shot (nonmedical job by the way) or you are fired. Is this legal?
They can fire you because they donít like the color of your shirt that day.
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They can fire you because they donít like the color of your shirt that day.
Not all jobs. At-will employment maybe, but for all others, there is something called Wrongful Termination.
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Old 04-25-2021, 11:57 AM
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Not all jobs. At-will employment maybe, but for all others, there is something called Wrongful Termination.
I assume thatís pretty hard to prove unless you are a skin color other than white...
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It is illegal for your employer to require a medical procedure that is not FDA approved.
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They can fire you because they don’t like the color of your shirt that day.
I never found this to be true. Employees can litigate over a lot of things these days, and an employee can fabricate stories causing huge problem and investigations.

In addition, there is reputational damage if you have a pattern or practice of being an unreasonable, unkind company.

For an employee can be difficult to fight against large corporations with legal departments and plenty of dollars. But if you are a manager in a large company you still have to handle firings well, you must have HR involved, you must consult your management, you must have documentation of giving warnings, putting people on a performance program, etc, before firing them or your performance will be looked at.

Smaller companies can be sued too. So, if they are smart they will document performance issues and fire properly.

Firing for petty reasons without documentation can cost a company money in time and attorney's fees. The good news for employers is that most of the time employees don't have the money or time to find an attorney that will take their case. Unless it's a safety/injury issue, sexual issue, discrimination issue, etc. The hot button stuff will get you in hot water.

I didn't have to fire too many people, and then when all my employees were skilled managers I didn't have to fire. Mostly I gave instruction on how firings had to be conducted. Sometimes the employee would come to me and I would review everything and suggest course corrections.

I'm sure its different from company to company, we had highly paid staff technologists, systems, and network people for the most part.
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It can't be mandated.

To distill it further: you are the type that wishes they grew taller than 5'9". You can dish it out but can't take it without whining to the mods. A lot of us have proof.

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Why do you dishonestly change what I said? Revisionism won't cut it here.

YOUR OWN SOURCE said it's unclear, so stop bloviating that it can't be mandated. You have no idea what you're talking about, and are giving bogus advice that can impact people in a major way.
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Iirc, the legal precedent for this has already been established. A similar matter was argued in the courts about 15-20 years ago regarding military members being forced to receive vaccinations for anthrax when the vaccination, much like the COVID vaccines right now, had been approved on emergency conditional purpose. The military lost. That's why they aren't forcing/can't force active duty military personnel to receive the COVID vaccine right now.

Furthermore, I don't understand how an employer can require vaccinations without violating HIPAA.

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Easy, it doesn't violate HIPAA because almost no one understands what HIPAA does.

HIPAA does NOT make asking medical questions illegal. That's not it's purpose. What it does is make providers keep your confidential information confidential. That's it. It's not illegal under HIPAA for your employer to call your doctor and ask for all kinds of private information. IT's ONLY illegal for your provider to answer the questions.

Now you know...
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Not all jobs. At-will employment maybe, but for all others, there is something called Wrongful Termination.
ALL jobs in california unless you have a contract of employment.
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Here is some new information that will likely cause employers to decline to make Wuhan flu vaccines mandatory......

“If I require my employees to take the COVID-19 vaccine as a condition of their employment, are adverse reactions to the vaccine recordable?

If you require your employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (i.e., for work-related reasons), then any adverse reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine is work-related. The adverse reaction is recordable if it is a new case under 29 CFR 1904.6 and meets one or more of the general recording criteria in 29 CFR 1904.7.“

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine

Basically, all of the risk of adverse reactions and adverse outcomes to experimental vaccines/drugs will now be placed on the shoulders of employers and their worker’s compensation insurance carriers if the injections are mandatory for work. This will likely result in substantial worker’s compensation insurance policy premium increases.

This is a significant development.
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^ Do you have to prove it was caused by the shot? This concoction attacks the body at a granular level, I would think it's hard to prove.
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^ Do you have to prove it was caused by the shot? This concoction attacks the body at a granular level, I would think it's hard to prove.
iirc, you didn't have to prove you caught covid at work - for employers to be required to jump through hoops.

Seems this should follow same (il)logic.
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Not to mention it being the end of the "getting to know you " phase for a new guy.
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Nuremburg Code: truth or conspiracy? Please, answer in your own words if you are allowed and capable.
Good one, youre too smart to hire an attorney. I dont leech off anything.

You have NO IDEA what you are talking about, so its best to stop giving legal advice pretending you do. People might read your ignorant opinion and lose a job.
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Can anyone name one major corporation operating in the US, that's making their employees take the covid vaccine?
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Not even vaccine makers "require" it for their personnel. Even if approved in 2023 most of the country will be over COVID....I hope.
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Can anyone name one major corporation operating in the US, that's making their employees take the covid vaccine?
This. We service hundreds of tech companies, banks, investment firms, hospitals, biotechnology companies, convalescent homes etc and I have seen no company requiring the covid shots for employees or contractors.
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I think it's safe to say there is a legal contest over this on the horizon.
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Not even vaccine makers "require" it for their personnel. Even if approved in 2023 most of the country will be over COVID....I hope.
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This. We service hundreds of tech companies, banks, investment firms, hospitals, biotechnology companies, convalescent homes etc and I have seen no company requiring the covid shots for employees or contractors.
Right. These corporations, I'm sure have been advised and know there's no legal way they can force this on an employee.
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Listening to a show and it’s federally illegal to require an emergency vaccine.

Ever wonder why 30% of military is Covid vaccinated.

Evidently until vaccine is fully approved,it’s illegal to force.


Nice lawsuit to possibly file
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Listening to a show and itís federally illegal to require an emergency vaccine.

Ever wonder why 30% of military is Covid vaccinated.

Evidently until vaccine is fully approved,itís illegal to force.


Nice lawsuit to possibly file


I wonder if it's even legal to administer.

One basic requirement for a EUA is that there be no other treatment available.

Had Hydroxychloroquine not been scuttled there would be no jab profit.

Now that a protocol including Ivermectin would allow the world to put this

"pandemic" behind us why is the "vaccine" still even available?
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Update: some co-workers recieved memos today. It basically stated that they need to provide proof of vaccination by June 1st or not be allowed to come to work. Then they will be terminated immediately.
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Where's the employment
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You need to read the CDC requirements and read them back off to your employer because they actually have to make adequate accommodations for you they canít just fire you at will

I sure hope you have the balls to get a lawyer and not back down from this I I donít see why anyone would throw their career away based on someoneís ignorant assumptions of how laws work.

You need to read what the CDC says about people going back to work and all that good stuff also read up about ADA and youíre gonna notice that in there by them not giving you adequate resolution meaning still being able to work from home thatís called discrimination at that point and yes Iíve always spoken to attorneys about this Iíve spent some of my money and I probably have about 40 to 50 hours of research into this crap.

To summarize this what theyíre doing is illegal and theyíre playing a huge game of chicken because they basically expect people to back down. Remember 85% of the population is sheep I donít have the balls to stand up to anything
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My work just dropped all covid nonsense. No more temp checks, masks, any of that crap. It was reluctantly adopted in the first place and from the beginning didn’t have a ton of compliance. Nowadays if people have a mask at all it’s hanging around their chin in case the safety guys come by… except the safety guys don’t even have them in when they leave their office.

Oh noes! We are doomed! Back the refrigerator truck up to one of our bays and get ready! The horror!
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Update: some co-workers recieved memos today. It basically stated that they need to provide proof of vaccination by June 1st or not be allowed to come to work. Then they will be terminated immediately.
Time to contact your lawyer. Threats over not taking an experimental drug...doesn't that cause undue emotional distress?
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One basic requirement for a EUA is that there be no other treatment available.

Had Hydroxychloroquine not been scuttled there would be no jab profit.
Yep, follow the money!

HCQ + Zinc was a valid treatment from the beginning (if taken early enough in the progression of sickness), but that combo got thrown under the bus because there was no profit in it.
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A very curious new development.....OSHA reverses course and now says no need to report vaccine injuries until 2022

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...tion-injuries/
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A very curious new development.....OSHA reverses course and now says no need to report vaccine injuries until 2022
Yeah, "curious" -- everyone knows the government is trying to force people to take it, no matter how much they get injured. The flu vaccine kills 100 - 200 a year and this has killed 3700+. By any decent standard this just be one of the most fastidiously reported statistics of all.
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JAB CROW LAWS: UNVACCINATED FACE SEGREGATION AND PERSECUTION BY TRIAGE TYRANTS

Today on TRUNEWS, host Edward Szall provides updates on the latest world headlines before exploring the latest in vaccine segregation. Are those that refuse the job being forced to sit at the back of the bus in society?

The team looks at the latest in the controversy surrounding Red Cross plasma donations and Coronavirus, and mysterious cases of ĎCOVID tongueí popping up around the country.

Edward Szall, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 5/26/21.

https://www.trunews.com/stream/jab-c...triage-tyrants
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That covid tongue thing looks crazy.
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5/25/21 - USA Today... Fact check: Federal law does not prevent states, businesses, employers from requiring COVID-19 vaccines

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The claim: Employers, businesses and the government canít mandate COVID-19 vaccines until theyíve been evaluated for two years...

Our rating: Partly false

The claim that employers, businesses and the government canít mandate COVID-19 vaccines until theyíve been evaluated for two years is PARTLY FALSE, based on our research. A section of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act cited on social media does not contain such a provision. Businesses, employers and states generally have a right to require proof of vaccination, with some exemptions for people with disabilities and people with religious, medical or philosophical objections. Some states have explicitly prohibited businesses and employers from requiring COVID-19 vaccination. There is a legal gray area for requiring vaccines approved for emergency use versus those that are FDA-approved, although legal experts say there is no explicit distinction in the law.
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I just bought pin “Vaccinated American”, put it on my work jacket (we must to use for ESD) and management put Check mark I am vaccinated. Lol BTW, I recovered from Chinese Flu 3 months ago and did antibody test this week, looking at IgG s/c index, even if vaccine work and proven safe, I will not take it.
To be honest, I do not lie, pin not calling what kind of vaccine I took and 3 weeks ago we did PDot vaccine. It is not my fault that most of people has only one thing in mind-COVID! But works for me LOL.
Best vaccine available, accepted everywhere

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