4473s changing, now includes non-binary for gender

[waygeekierthanu]

https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/f_4473_5300._9_pt._1_revision_09-18-2019_with_watermark.pdf&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1577806866866000&usg=AFQjCNFsBmoqesYKCkAqwSsvQvrMAXjQYQ

I am not a huge fan of having more on page 2, and the first part of the first section not being done by the purchaser.. just adds more instruction. I do like that the citizenship question is in a better place!

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[tenpercentfirearms]

I don't like this at all. The customer does not need to be filling out Section A (which they will with it right there), that is going to be a hot mess. We need more lines for guns, not less. Section B should all be on the same front page for error or denial checking.

This is a disaster.

[waygeekierthanu]

I don't like this at all. The customer does not need to be filling out Section A (which they will with it right there), that is going to be a hot mess. We need more lines for guns, not less. Section B should all be on the same front page for error or denial checking.



This is a disaster.

We are going to be responding to their public comment., You should too!

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[tenpercentfirearms]

I found the comment e-mail address here.

FederalRegisterNoticeATFF4473@atf.gov

[kemasa]

The firearms should be filled out prior to the buyer/transferee filling out anything due to the wording of 11a currently, new form 21a.

Having the firearms on the first page makes some sense, it makes it easier to just look at the front page and see the firearms (unless there is additional firearms) and the person's name.

People sometimes try to continue filling out the form as it is. It would be nice if it was separated.

People don't like changes though and this is a change.

With that said, I am still not a fan of it.

[code_blue]

Link is now dead

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

[kemasa]

You can find it by doing a search. Use the file name in the link.

[kemasa]

Try:

https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/f_4473_5300._9_pt._1_revision_09-18-2019_with_watermark.pdf

[Tyke8319]

Updated 4473

When did these come out...or...are they in the mail now?

[waygeekierthanu]

When did these come out...or...are they in the mail now?

They are out for public review, not official yet

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[taperxz]

County/Parish/Borough

Thank You!

No more USA

[Tyke8319]

I don't like this at all. The customer does not need to be filling out Section A (which they will with it right there), that is going to be a hot mess. We need more lines for guns, not less. Section B should all be on the same front page for error or denial checking.

This is a disaster.

Shouldn't "we" be filling out Part A before the customer begins filling out Part B?
I think that's how I'd be doing it.

[taperxz]

Shouldn't "we" be filling out Part A before the customer begins filling out Part B?
I think that's how I'd be doing it.

Those are the instructions

[kemasa]

Also:

https://www.atf.gov/docs/undefined/f447353009adraftaugust2019continuationsheetwithwatermarkpdf/download

That is nice, except when I notice the details. It says that all entries must be handwritten. If it is an additional sheet and if the 4473 can be done on the computer, why does the additional firearms have to be handwritten?