Ruger 5.7 Leaked

[elSquid]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-fligh...ng-requirement

no new guns would make roster, but they cut off all their guns that were on list by choice.

https://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/smith-wesson-does-not-will-not-include-microstamping-in-its-firearms

In addition, California asserts that anything other than a cosmetic change to a handgun already on the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, including performance enhancements and other improvements, requires it to be removed from the roster and retested. Both the M&P Shield and the SDVE pistols are expected to remain on the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale as long as no changes are made to those models and the company does not plan to make changes to them for this reason. All other Smith & Wesson handguns are at risk of eventually falling off the roster over time. The company expects that any current production revolvers that fall off will be re-tested and returned to the roster, since microstamping does not apply to revolvers. Without some change in position by California, however, any semi-automatic pistols (other than the California-compliant models referenced above) that are removed from the roster will not be returned and law-abiding citizens will not be permitted to buy them from a licensed dealer in California.

[SkyHawk]

Colt, Ruger, S&W did not drop their semi guns off the roster by choice. They were forced too. Ruger managed to get the LC380 back on but they could not for the others. All of these companies still deal with the expense of dealing with the CA roster every day. They all are putting new revolvers on regularly. If they could have kept their semi guns on, they would have.

[AdiosKali]

It sucks with commercially available ammo.

Hopefully Underwood will roll out some 5.7!

[tuna quesadilla]

https://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/smith-wesson-does-not-will-not-include-microstamping-in-its-firearms

In addition, California asserts that anything other than a cosmetic change to a handgun already on the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale, including performance enhancements and other improvements, requires it to be removed from the roster and retested. Both the M&P Shield and the SDVE pistols are expected to remain on the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale as long as no changes are made to those models and the company does not plan to make changes to them for this reason. All other Smith & Wesson handguns are at risk of eventually falling off the roster over time. The company expects that any current production revolvers that fall off will be re-tested and returned to the roster, since microstamping does not apply to revolvers. Without some change in position by California, however, any semi-automatic pistols (other than the California-compliant models referenced above) that are removed from the roster will not be returned and law-abiding citizens will not be permitted to buy them from a licensed dealer in California.

Ahh yep, this is what I remember reading. I did some more digging and found confirmation, back in the day, from an FFL who had received this notice:

"NOTICE -- EFFECTIVE JULY 26, 2013
All SR22 pistols will be removed from the Roster pursuant to California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 4070, subdivision (c)(2)."

Title 11, Section 4070, Subdivision (c)(2) is the portion of the law that allows CA to boot guns off the roster because of arbitrary differences in manufacturing or design.

Ruger did NOT voluntarily take guns off the roster. They were forced off by thuggish democrats.

[fmunk]

Hopefully Underwood will roll out some 5.7!

Why wait. Roll your own.

[Buffman]

I just saw a youtube vid of a guy who had 62 gr subsonic ammo (SB193) that still penetrated 2 layers of body armor. Mentioned it used to be made with 55gr SMK's which I assume are commercially available.

So, for those of us who reload, wouldn't it be possible to run the cartridge's full potential? There are many who work with and reload the 5.7

I never buy a gun with the intention of shooting commercial ammo exclusively. For those that do, I can see why the 5.7 would have little appeal. All the arguments make sense from that perspective. But I don't see why handloaders can't work around all the issues folks complain about.

Correct the original SB193 used 55gr SMK. That bullet's jacket thickness and lead density somehow at subsonic speeds, allow it to penetrate all sorts of IIIA armor, soft and hard. it's ability to cycle a suppressor on the pistol was not good.

So they came out with a 62gr version and I have not been able to identify who makes it. It cycles the 5.7 just fine, and destroys armor just as well.

I have tested 5-6 various types of 55gr FMJ and none of them at subsonic speeds works like the SMK's do

[Mr. Blue]

[Bobby Ricigliano]

FWIW, I have one. It is sort of an odd duck. The grip is slim, but long. Unloaded, the pistol weighs nearly nothing. The trigger pull is reminscient of a typical Glock. It has a longish barrel with a very bright fiber optic front and blacked out rear sight. The magazines appear to be steel. The ambi safety and reversible magazine release are nice for us southpaws.

There is a big hole on the back of the slide, similar to the VP9. Except it doesn’t seem to have a purpose. It was sort of an impulse buy that I saw in the case while I was buying something else. I have not gotten around to shooting it.

It is also worth mentioning that ammo in this caliber is practically non-existent at the moment. I was able to acquire about 1,150 rounds for it, and a couple spare magazines. Those items, bought later, cost more than the pistol did.

I haven’t shot it yet, so that is about all I’ve got to report at the moment.

[DDRH]

For those who want to reload for the FN5.7 Cartridge... some info.

Could be finicky to reload.
Brass lasts about 2 reloads.
Brass is turned brass (machined?).
There was at least one Ka-Boom incident years ago from reloaded rounds. (Something to consider or readup on of you feel the need to)

I have an FN 5-7 but have not shot it in awhile. It's a fun gun!

https://youtu.be/dlGndajuRy4

On another note would love the unobtainable MP7 (4.6x30mm). Or MP7 with 5.7x28mm

[DrewN]

I bet you all said the same thing about the 6.5 creedmoor... Oh and here it is being made for belt fed machine guns.... Lol 😂

I mean, I have a safe full of "next big thing" 6.5s. They had never caught on before, so I was a little surprised it was Creedmoor that took off. Why it wasn't .260 is completely beyond me.

[ez1911]

If Newssolini says I cant have it, it makes me want it more. Anything I can do to piss him off or make him uncomfortable. Besides, I love my fn. Its just fun to shoot.