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Old 06-10-2014, 11:13 AM
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Still blows my mind that there are non-active infantrymen. Do they do extra training from the usual one weekend a month before deploying? Why someone would want to be an infantryman and not be active is beyond me. If anyone is even considering infantry the only option is active.

First of all, you'll get adequate training. I guarantee as an 11bush you'll spend more time out in the field simply training on 1A than nasty girls and reservists spend their entire careers training. I don't know how many days we spent out there just on 1A.

Next, you'll have an actual brotherhood if you go active. With all of the **** we had to go through together BEFORE deployment we became very close. No one in the reserves or NG can tell me they have the same connection.

Finally, you'll have the experience of actually being in the Army. I completely understand active is not for everyone. However, you do not get the true military experience by not being active. I'm sorry, you just don't. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm simply saying being active is an entirely different atmosphere.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:32 PM
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National Guard, Reserves go through pre-deployment training at Fort Irwin NTC, which includes MOUT operations.

One weekend a month isn't accurate. There's other opportunities within the NG such as SAD ( state active duty) which could range from S-1 (admin), S-3 (operations, training) or working the gates as a MP.
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National Guard, Reserves go through pre-deployment training at Fort Irwin NTC, which includes MOUT operations.

One weekend a month isn't accurate. There's other opportunities within the NG such as SAD ( state active duty) which could range from S-1 (admin), S-3 (operations, training) or working the gates as a MP.
Well I knew they'd go through NTC or JRTC as that's required by everyone. I meant beyond that. What do infantrymen do to prepare them? Even as an active grunt I always thought we could have used more training. When we didn't have training scheduled, we wouldn't just be sitting at the CP doing nothing, we'd be doing walk through drills or reload drills or dime and washer drills, etc. There's just no way you could be fully prepared for combat as an inactive soldier.
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Usually 3-4 day field FTX's and or 2 weeks of AT.

In my unit, it depends on the discretion of the individual soldier. But, I usually go with another battle buddy of mine to BLM land and practice.

Went over the basics and fire team movements, etc. I use my 4x4 and go in DEEP.... I've gone out at least 3-4 times this month, fired hundreds of 762x39 and 556 rds.

I'm not a 11B, so other than that I can't really comment much more. MP, soon to be a 68W.
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I would say medical in the military is seconded by civilian medicine. The average medic in the army will have circles run around him by a civilian EMT/paramedic. Even if you work in a high speed unit you will be out done by a medium to heavily busy civilian medic. You just don't get the same experience. I would typically reccomend against being an army medic if you think you will get a lot of experience. I would reccomend a higher level of skill, like x-ray, surgical tech, and even LVN/LPN. When you get out of the Army as a 68w you can only be an EMT-B, most likely on an ambulance. I was lucky and got an ER job at $15 an hour, on an ambulance I made like $8.50 an hour. I worked in the ER in the Army though. To round out the conversation you might end up with an amazing medic while in the national guard.
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Usually 3-4 day field FTX's and or 2 weeks of AT.

In my unit, it depends on the discretion of the individual soldier. But, I usually go with another battle buddy of mine to BLM land and practice.

Went over the basics and fire team movements, etc. I use my 4x4 and go in DEEP.... I've gone out at least 3-4 times this month, fired hundreds of 762x39 and 556 rds.

I'm not a 11B, so other than that I can't really comment much more. MP, soon to be a 68W.
That's all they have you do extra before you deploy? Jesus. At least you're not 11bang bang and only getting that much training. Hopefully they get more. Can't imagine being "infantry" and only training that much.
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Old 06-10-2014, 7:38 PM
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NG grunts will not have the level/amount of training to hang with an AD grunt. Period. I will agree with the others though about civilians medics having more experience. Even our 68Ws mostly get stuck day to day dealin with the **** bag sick call rangers. And not getting to do legit training. We have a few guys that were paramedics before the army and are **** hot.
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I would say medical in the military is seconded by civilian medicine. The average medic in the army will have circles run around him by a civilian EMT/paramedic. Even if you work in a high speed unit you will be out done by a medium to heavily busy civilian medic. You just don't get the same experience. I would typically reccomend against being an army medic if you think you will get a lot of experience. I would reccomend a higher level of skill, like x-ray, surgical tech, and even LVN/LPN. When you get out of the Army as a 68w you can only be an EMT-B, most likely on an ambulance. I was lucky and got an ER job at $15 an hour, on an ambulance I made like $8.50 an hour. I worked in the ER in the Army though. To round out the conversation you might end up with an amazing medic while in the national guard.
I remember when looking into it a few years ago, anyone who is/was 68W/91? Healthcare specialist/medic is allowed in many states to challenge the State Board test for LVN.

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Hello all!

This is my first post as I'm new here. (just picked up a berreta m9a1) I'm currently in the CA ARNG as a 68W. I joined soon after turning 28. You won't be the oldest or most out of shape guy. You will feel old though... errr.. mature. I was (and still) a bartender before going, so I was used to being talked down to and getting yelled at. Just know that the cadre isn't serious about wanting to kill you. They don't actually hate you. But I'm sure you've heard all that before. Just have thick skin and do whatever is necessary to get through the day. You will laugh so hard at the end of it. I graduated BCT from Ft. Benning BTW when it was all male.

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There are no reserve 11b only active and national gaurd
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There are no reserve 11b only active and national gaurd
I remember the split and to this day it makes zero sense. I believe a mix up of the two equally between Reserve and Guard would be better.
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Next, you'll have an actual brotherhood if you go active. With all of the **** we had to go through together BEFORE deployment we became very close. No one in the reserves or NG can tell me they have the same connection.
not true I have been in the Reserves my entire career and to this day I still talk to some of the people I first met when I joined. some I worked with at my shop as a civilian for the last 10 years many have retired recently.

as for my deployment it was almost 10 years ago and I still have a connection to those I served with. when we all first met we were strangers at the time of deployment many of us knew each other very well.

many of the instructors were surprised at the level of teamwork we had for a unit that was put together to those that have been together for years.
I was in intel and we were all crossleveled for deployment.


is Reserve or Guard the same as active no it is not. but the friendship is there.
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not true I have been in the Reserves my entire career and to this day I still talk to some of the people I first met when I joined. some I worked with at my shop as a civilian for the last 10 years many have retired recently.

as for my deployment it was almost 10 years ago and I still have a connection to those I served with. when we all first met we were strangers at the time of deployment many of us knew each other very well.

many of the instructors were surprised at the level of teamwork we had for a unit that was put together to those that have been together for years.
I was in intel and we were all crossleveled for deployment.


is Reserve or Guard the same as active no it is not. but the friendship is there.
I should have worded my post better. I'm not saying friendships or brotherhoods do not exist in inactive service, but I fail to believe they are as strong as those living an active life. I'm not trying to get in a pissing match or downplay any NG/Reserves service so I'll agree to disagree but that's my opinion. Just like the training active receives is superb, so is the connection made, simply due to all the additional training, tasks and hardships endured. Again, I'm not seeing non-active don't go through the same things, just on a lesser level.
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Hey guys still on the fence and have really been thinking of joining the reserves.

My main question is can a reservist get a 4 yr contract? I know six is usually the most common for reservist but idk if I want to do six years. I know that 8yr is the total commitment.
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It's silly ideas like " I don't want to do two extra years " that will keep you from doing one of the best things in life you could do. Just man up and sign up
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Hey guys still on the fence and have really been thinking of joining the reserves.

My main question is can a reservist get a 4 yr contract? I know six is usually the most common for reservist but idk if I want to do six years. I know that 8yr is the total commitment.
I don't think the whole drill thing is all that big of deal. It's a bunch of nonsense and you just have to plan your weekends accordingly.

You can expect to deploy at least once. That's the kicker no matter how many years you put in. Some may say there's a good chance you wont deploy, but don't sign up if that's not something you're ready for.

I remember my biggest apprehension was stepping off the bus at Basic thinking, what the hell am I doing here (at 39).

There was far less apprehension deploying. Now that it's over it's unlikely I'll be sent out again before my entire 6+2 is up.
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Deploying is something that I'm not worried about in fact I kind of want to deploy so I can do my part what little there is left since things seem to be winding down.
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My experience with the Army Reserve was not nearly as good as my experiences in the Army National Guard (CA and KY). I had a pay problem with my Army Reserve unit that took over a decade (and intervention by my Congressman) to get fixed. Our pay office was in another state, and we had no direct contact with them, so mistakes didn't get fixed.
With the National Guard, everything is within the state, so problems got fixed much quicker.
The only reasons to join the USAR over the ARNG are 1) If your chosen MOS is not available in the ARNG in your area, but is available in the USAR, or 2) If you plan to move from state to state a lot.


I also served in the regular Army, the Air Force, and the Air Guard (I was also technically in the Air Force Reserve at one point, but not as a drilling reservist). Retired from the USAF.

Hopefully, my varied experiences allow me to give you good advice.
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