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Old 05-27-2014, 8:47 AM
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Default Israeli Tactical Point Shooting & CQB - July/August - Fairfield, CA

In association with KMI’s Applied Tactics Division, IzDan Security Academy’s Basic, Tactical and CQB Shooting Courses rooted in the Israeli handgun method are designed with the objective of preparing Protection Specialists as well as the amateur shooter with the special skills and judgment demanded by professionals.

July 27 - ITPS 1 - Jeremy Brown
August 8-9 - ITPS 2 / ITPS 3 - Kfir Cohen
August 10 - ITPS CQB (non-live fire, no pre-reqs) - Kfir Cohen


What is Israeli Tactical Point Shooting?



Kfir Cohen is a Co-Owner and Instructor for the IzDan Security Academy. Kfir is a certified shooting instructor from the Ministry of the Interior of Israel with extensive experience teaching and training shooting and counter-terrorism units. He was a Combat, Anti-Terror, Krav Maga, and Shooting Instructor for the Israeli Military Industry. He also served as a shooting and CQC instructor for the Sky Marshalls and Border Control for the Israel Airport Authority, and was the Department Head of Lechima Be’Terror (anti-terror warfare department of the Lotar IDF school of special counter-terrorism). He is on Reserve with the IDF Lotar Eilat (counter-terrorism and hostage unit reserves force) and serves as a anti-terror, CQC, and hostage response instructor.

KMI SF Site Director and Senior Instructor Jeremy Brown’s international experience and passion for self-defense led him to Krav Maga, and his natural athletic ability and dedication drove him to excel. He is trained by top Israeli experts including Eyal Yanilov, Tamir Gilad, Kfir Cohen, and Danny Zelig. In addition to having multiple Expert level Krav Maga certifications, Jeremy is a NRA and DOJ certified pistol instructor, as well as a certified Israeli Tactical Point Shooting instructor. Jeremy created and directs KMI’s Instructor Development Program (IDP).

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Old 05-30-2014, 4:55 PM
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Just added: ITPS CQB on August 10!

Our MARSOC CQB courses in June are sold out, so we're adding a CQB course with Kfir to meet demand. Check out the Israeli take on CQB in August.
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Old 06-11-2014, 9:22 AM
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Grab your spot before it sells out! ITPS 1 is a popular course and has sold out each time.




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Old 06-13-2014, 2:39 PM
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ITPS 1 Date Change

To accommodate students that wish to take both the Tactical Medicine course and ITPS 1 in July, we have moved the ITPS 1 date to the following week. ITPS 1 is now on Sunday July 27th. Tactical Medicine remains on Saturday July 19th.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:39 AM
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What’s up I just had a few questions

What is your student instructor ratio?

Do you do any kinetic movements on the range?

Do you guys get in to barricades or shooting from cover?

I noticed a lot of the students are using a thumb down grip, is that something you encourage?

What kind of targets are you using?

What ranges (as in distance) do you work from?

Do you get into different shooting positions?

Are all the classes just 1 day?

What kind of skill progression can I expect by taking all 3 ITPS phases?

Do you offer a live fire CQB course?

Thank you for your time, I am a perpetual student who is always looking to learn.
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Old 06-16-2014, 8:13 AM
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What’s up I just had a few questions
What is your student instructor ratio?
Max 8 students to 1 instructor.

Do you do any kinetic movements on the range?
Yes. Moreso in the ITPS 2 and ITPS 3 courses. ITPS 1 does include basic movement and dynamic targeting.

Do you guys get in to barricades or shooting from cover?
Both.

I noticed a lot of the students are using a thumb down grip, is that something you encourage?
It is not specifically encouraged.

What kind of targets are you using?
At the Fairfield range, we use static targets. At our Tactical Training Center, we have dynamic and responsive targets for the non-live fire training.

What ranges (as in distance) do you work from?
Varied depending on the level of the course.

Do you get into different shooting positions?
Yes.

Are all the classes just 1 day?
Each of ITPS 1, ITPS 2, and ITPS 3 are 8 hour courses. There are additional advanced situational drills and complex scenarios for refining instinct and ability available after ITPS 3.

What kind of skill progression can I expect by taking all 3 ITPS phases?
Because of the effectiveness of the style and the experience of the instructor, you can learn the material very quickly. However, this depends on the individual skill and aptitude of the students coming into the course. A beginning student may prefer to repeat ITPS 1 and 2 several times prior to progressing to ITPS 3, which includes physical fatigue, CQB, problem solving, and more which might be too complicated for a beginning shooter.

Do you offer a live fire CQB course?
Not at this time.

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Thank you for your time, I am a perpetual student who is always looking to learn.
Thanks for your questions and interest! Please make sure to check out our YouTube channel for more of what training with us is like.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:44 PM
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ITPS 1 is almost sold out. Only a 2 spots left to ensure our excellent student-instructor ratio. Register ASAP for the July 27 Israeli Tactical Point Shooting basics course. Note that this course is a prerequisite for ITPS 2.
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Do you ever offer classes in SoCal?
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Old 06-24-2014, 8:24 AM
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Our currently scheduled live and non-live fire courses are in the NorCal region, but our instructor team does travel. If you have contacts and sufficient interest in your area, we are happy to coordinate an event. Send us an email and let us know what you are looking for. apptac@kravmagainstitute.com
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second that socal interest
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:15 AM
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Great - love the interest. We'll look into options. Any region in particular?
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Hi Jesse, Thanks for the video and opportunity for discussion.

Over the years of shooting firearms, I have encountered many methods that teach you how to shoot. But there is a big difference in shooting in cardboard or paper targets and having all the time in the world to do it, versus facing a real life threat situation where you don't have time to think. You see the threat in front of you and your brain will shout "shoot shoot shoot stay alive!" After investigating hundreds of thousands of incidents in Israel, we saw victims reacted with rapid fire and without using the sights. This is why we decided that we don't need to teach the students how to shoot - we need to teach them how to fight. Knowing the difference between fighting and shooting, we developed the method that we are teaching today.

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:28 AM
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Update on ITPS 1 - We have only one spot left as of today June 26. If there is sufficient demand, we will add another certified instructor to the July 27th course and increase the cap to 12. Contact us if you want to register for ITPS 1 and are unable to.
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The person in the video is a Delta Force operator, not a paper shooter.

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Hi Jesse, Thanks for the video and opportunity for discussion.

Over the years of shooting firearms, I have encountered many methods that teach you how to shoot. But there is a big difference in shooting in cardboard or paper targets and having all the time in the world to do it, versus facing a real life threat situation where you don't have time to think.
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The person in the video is a Delta Force operator, not a paper shooter.
I can't speak for Delta Force - only what I know from decades of teaching counter terror, border control, and police units in Israel. Point shooting is the style we use for close range, and for longer range we use sights and trigger control. It doesn't have to be exclusively point shooting OR sight shooting. The top Google result for "point shooting vs sight shooting" has a good evaluation of all sides of the argument. As the contributors said, part of the issue is training for precision under extreme stress. In Israel, we train as if we could be deployed tomorrow. Many times, we don't have the luxury of months of training, so fine tuning efficiency to get immediate results is essential.

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Thanks for all the questions and discussion.

A few updates:
  • We sold out ITPS 1 (July 27) but have increased the capacity to 12 with an additional instructor. This keeps the student-instructor ratio at 6-to-1. We're just under a month out and will likely fill to capacity. Register ASAP!
  • Due to interest, we are scheduling a date for ITPS in Southern California later this year. Stay tuned for more details and sign up on our monthly newsletter to get the latest updates: Click Subscribe in the upper left corner of our last newsletter.
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Old 07-11-2014, 2:11 PM
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ITPS 1 has only ONE space left. Get in your registration for that last spot ASAP! http://www.kravmagainstitute.com/eve...ooting-itps-1/
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ITPS 1 is now sold out with all overflow spots filled. We're finalizing the details for ITPS in SoCal. Israeli CQB still has spaces available for firearms training with Kfir in August.
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Excellent ITPS 1 yesterday. We're loving all the positive feedback. Discounts are available for those who would like to continue into ITPS 2 and ITPS 3 next week. Contact us apptac@kravmagainstitute.com to get registered at the discount rate.
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Is this your "training"? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OalP-Ler7vM

I have lots of questions, but the first 6 second.... What is that?
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that is our "training" - what you are seeing in the first segment of the video are the dry fire and movement drills.

till44 is obviously a firearms professional and your concern is valid out of context -- what you don't see and likely the reason for your "eek" is that those weapons were cleared on the line, dis-assembled, barrel blockers installed, re-assembled, and checked. No ammo was even unpacked from vehicles.

the IDF style is a quite different training style from traditional US tactical firearms courses (and we as a team have collectively taken via Mil/LE/Private Sector), however note that in this course were a number of professional LE and Veteran's - no one after first hand experience with the safety procedures had any issues with these kinds of drills, in fact, they are on record as stating that the safety procedure, protocol and redundancy exceeds their own department and unit standards....and it works:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_400/2...on_AGAIN_.html
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Even then, all it takes is for one guy to run to his car to grab water/snack, fiddle with his gun, grab a full mag, etc., etc. And you have a serious accident. What's the purpose of the drill? Either way, I've tried to see it, but I don't see how the risk outweighs any possibility of a serious accident.
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the purpose and objective of the drills are dynamic movement and handling under stress, beyond the artificial confines of the square range and static monotype target; to inoculate and train such that drawing, arming and sighting become intuition. this allows for maximum cycles to be spend on target acquisition, discrimination and if ROEs and law allow, prosecution. all resulting in better and safer shooters. ; all of our dry and live fire (and unloading) sequences happen under the direction of the instructor - this is (oped) a procedure that far exceeds typical civilian range standards.

if a student acts from malice, goes psycho and actively dis-assembles, removes the blocker, loads mags, re-assemble, arms, and fires - then this is no accident and of course can happen at any course at any range (ref the Chris Kyle tragedy (RIP))

till44 - we'd be happy to take the discussion offline as this is trending far beyond the forum topic of announcements ( you can contact us directly at apptac@kravmagainstitute.com)

we respectfully consider this thread now closed within this forum.
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