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Old 02-24-2014, 10:01 PM
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We wheeled with a bunch of broncos out in Moab. They did OK. Lots of stalling on the steep stuff though. And I don't remember using my lockers at all while running with that bunch so......

PS. The only time a jeep gets a hoof that high is when the driver f'd up. Articulation you don't have.
Kind of Master Of the Obvious there aren't you? Injection-vs-carbs so yes Broncos will stall, just like pre-injection heeps do. Plenty of EBs are getting set up with Mustang injection systems though so not such a worry anymore.

That hole is big enough for a man to stand in so I don't care how much articulation you got it ain't going to keep all four planted. My lack of articulation didn't seem to impede my progress though.

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*sigh* Another noob in a bronco who think they are cool. Is the Hammers trails good enough for you? Enjoy your rust bucket.
"Noob"?...hardly. If that is you driving I would venture I was wheeling before you even had a license. And been-there-done-that-got-the-tshirt on the Hammers as well. I first wheeled them over 12 years ago.

Enjoy walking after the EMP everyone talks about in here turns your heep into a boulder for me to crawl over. My "rust bucket" also has no car payment, costs about $50 to register and insurance is $250 a year. Plus I built it myself and know every nut/bolt on it and how to fix it.
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Ahhh Shiiit .. we do have some wheelers in here huh?

Nice.. maybe we should set up a 4x4 expedition one of these days..

85 Toyota 4runner.. Locked in the rear with marlin crawler dual xfer cases on 35s with a 7mgte for the power plant..She's almost back on the road..
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"Noob"?...hardly. If that is you driving I would venture I was wheeling before you even had a license. And been-there-done-that-got-the-tshirt on the Hammers as well. I first wheeled them over 12 years ago.

Enjoy walking after the EMP everyone talks about in here turns your heep into a boulder for me to crawl over. My "rust bucket" also has no car payment, costs about $50 to register and insurance is $250 a year. Plus I built it myself and know every nut/bolt on it and how to fix it.
LOL, you are easy to troll. You'd last about 2 sec. over on Pirate. Have you ever heard of rock sliders? They would have kept your floor boards from turning into potato chips. Just saying...
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Kind of Master Of the Obvious there aren't you? Injection-vs-carbs so yes Broncos will stall, just like pre-injection heeps do. Plenty of EBs are getting set up with Mustang injection systems though so not such a worry anymore.

That hole is big enough for a man to stand in so I don't care how much articulation you got it ain't going to keep all four planted. My lack of articulation didn't seem to impede my progress though.


"Noob"?...hardly. If that is you driving I would venture I was wheeling before you even had a license. And been-there-done-that-got-the-tshirt on the Hammers as well. I first wheeled them over 12 years ago.

Enjoy walking after the EMP everyone talks about in here turns your heep into a boulder for me to crawl over. My "rust bucket" also has no car payment, costs about $50 to register and insurance is $250 a year. Plus I built it myself and know every nut/bolt on it and how to fix it.
LOL. Kind of thin skinned for a wheeler....

You took the first jab. Relax, it's all in good fun. I'd still wheel with you.

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LOL, you are easy to troll. You'd last about 2 sec. over on Pirate. Have you ever heard of rock sliders? They would have kept your floor boards from turning into potato chips. Just saying...
You must be OLD to have been driving when I was born, what are you 70?
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If you consider that a successful "trolling" you heve very low expectations. Do you perhaps still giggle evey time you fart?

Rock sliders were a relatively new thing when I did the original damage and while I had planned to install some (had to be fabbed not bought back then) but after the first dent I said the heck with it. The doors hadn't been on there in years anyways and the self-clearancing the rocks did provides better ground clearance.

I can understand your concern though, as based on your multiple comments about my Bronco's appearance it seems you appear to have an overly metro-sexually developed worry about a vehicle looks.

Also it seems reading comprehension isn't one of you strong suits, as I never said I was "driving before you were born". I stated I had probably started wheeling before you had your licence. I turn 56 this year and have been wheeling for 38 of those.

"Porn" by definition is something that excites and (just like gay porn) Boobicon pictures do nothing for me.
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LOL, you are easy to troll. You'd last about 2 sec. over on Pirate. Have you ever heard of rock sliders? They would have kept your floor boards from turning into potato chips. Just saying...
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How much did that HEMI motor cost you to put it into your Jeep? The dealers have a new one and they want $55,000 for it! That's the one thing I hate about my Wrangler, it's that whimpy engine.
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How much did that HEMI motor cost you to put it into your Jeep? The dealers have a new one and they want $55,000 for it! That's the one thing I hate about my Wrangler, it's that whimpy engine.
It was about 14k in parts. LOTS of work.
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"Porn" by definition is something that excites (like gay porn).
Sorry I have no Gay porn pics for you noobie.
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I have only seen one 2wd on the Rubicon. It was a VW based dunebuggy, and he had amazingly made it almost a mile into the trail. We helped him get unstuck.

I remember pissing off some buddies in high school. They had big 4x4 broncos and blazers. But my stock vw bug always seemed to keep up off road. Never tried anything crazy but that little bug was amazing in the rutty hills.
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Let's say you had two similar vehicles, for example a Toyota Tacoma, but one is 4wd with stock street tires and the 2wd has a good aggressive off-road tire. Which one do you guys think would do better off road?
If someone with at least minimal off road driving skill took those 2 vehicles over the same progressively more difficult trail, the 4wd would always be more successful.
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Sorry I have no Gay porn pics for you noobie.
Hmmmm just a bit ago you were so proud of your "trolling" prowess and yet now you are reduced to creative editing in a desperate attempt at salvaging your position.

What's your next plan....resorting to the old, "I know you are but what am I?" ?
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Let's say you had two similar vehicles, for example a Toyota Tacoma, but one is 4wd with stock street tires and the 2wd has a good aggressive off-road tire. Which one do you guys think would do better off road?
Swap the tires between the 2 vehicles, drive the 4x4 and be done with it.
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4x4 will beat 2wd every time....as long as the driver doesn't have a false sense of power from the 4x4.
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Nice to have at least a 3/4 ton... if you haul anything around. Nothing like a full floater and heavy duty brakes. If fuel mileage is a concern, go diesel, and of course 4wd.
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intended application?

If you are going over Sand then the one with better tires.
if you are going over large rocks, then 4x4
if you are going over ICE then the one with better tires
if you are going over SNOW then the one with better tires
if you are going over deep mud/Deep snow then hopefully you have both 4x4 with good tires.
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Let's say you had two similar vehicles, for example a Toyota Tacoma, but one is 4wd with stock street tires and the 2wd has a good aggressive off-road tire. Which one do you guys think would do better off road?
I have a2wd Tacoma prerunner, with dirt tires, it does realllllly well in the snow, that said a 4wd would only be better with street tires if it had a lot of weight in the back to make sure the tires would grab, no weight no traction.

How ever, 2wd = 1 wheel with power
4wd= 2 wheels with power one front on back
awd = all wheels with power.
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I love my Deisel K5 4x4. but that being said, if hte mud is deep enough, that 5600 truck will be stuck...
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4x4, locked front and rear, and don't forget armor (2wd and 4wd do ya no good if you break something!).

















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I decided to do a SAS on my 02 Silverado. It has low miles, runs good and paid for. I buying a HP60/14 bolt with Detroits and 456 gears, H1 wheels and MTRS with PVC run flats, 14" FOA coil overs and doing a radius arm setup. The 5.3 makes PLENTY of power to turn those bad boys and give me decent hwy rpms (i live in the valley its all freeways).
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4x4 all day.....I won't ever buy a truck/suv without it.
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I recently bought a mitsu montero sport, it's 4wd and gets me to the hunting spots, but it's not filling the jeep shaped hole in my heart.
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My 4X4 gets me to all the places I want to go and my 2X4 gets me to all the places I need to go!....
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This thread has turned Awesomo! Bronco fan bagging on jeeper. Jeeper trolls bronco. Rofl...like poster above says. If this was the pirate forum, theyd eat the bronco out alive, chew, spit out and eat it again. Lol. Broncos are good wheeling trucks. Better than the soccergranny wannabe truck hybrid treehugging suv. But will never be up on par with any heep/yoter. Truth hurts I know.
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AR WG .. That's a cute Liberty you got there.

Nice set up cypriss. . Only problem with full size rigs is on tight trails and the wheel base. But every tool has it's application. My Truck is pretty much up and running , Might take it somewhere to try and break it.
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Ok . . Anyone over on Pirate? And do they know an admin over there?

Got banned for SPAM???!!! lame.

http://bbbind.com/tech_database.html

Not a spam link.. but a link to any and all vehicle wiring diagrams..
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AR WG .. That's a cute Liberty you got there.
I was waiting for someone to say that lol.

Hey, it goes where all the other big boys go, just gotta work a little harder.
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I was waiting for someone to say that lol.

Hey, it goes where all the other big boys go, just gotta work a little harder.
HAHA, Just givin you a hard time.. seems to do alright , IFS comes with it's own challenges.. What mods have you done to her?
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HAHA, Just givin you a hard time.. seems to do alright , IFS comes with it's own challenges.. What mods have you done to her?
No worries, gotta have thick skin to wheel a libby. I make fun of myself all the time.

We created a sway bar disconnect for the front that allows the IFS quite a bit more articulation.

3 inch lift
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4x4 plain and simple.

Back when I was young and broke I tried to make the 2wd thing make sense. The phrase, "just spinning your wheels" is apt.

My last vehicle was a F&R locked Jeep JK. That vehicle went places that were just plain insane.
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iv heard a lot about lifts (not body lifts) doing a lot of damage to the joints and steering, I have seen some great looking trucks with lifts that when you look close the tread on the tires is horrible, uneven, and very worn on the inside and the outside is nice and Shinny.

Also does just getting bigger tires do a lot of what a lift would do?
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iv heard a lot about lifts (not body lifts) doing a lot of damage to the joints and steering, I have seen some great looking trucks with lifts that when you look close the tread on the tires is horrible, uneven, and very worn on the inside and the outside is nice and Shinny.

Also does just getting bigger tires do a lot of what a lift would do?
A proper lift will address steering and axle angle changes, DO NOT purchase a cheep lift as most likely they skip fixing the issues to save a little $$$.
The reason to add a lift is so the bigger tires will fit. My jeep has a 4" lift and aftermarket fenders that allow for 37" tires, when the tires are "stuffed" there is only about 1/8" clearance before they rub my fenders.
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I rub my rear 35" on my Wrangler JK everytime I hit a really deep pit. It's a sound that tells me I'm out of articulation. So far, no marks, no plastic fender replacements.
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A proper lift will address steering and axle angle changes, DO NOT purchase a cheep lift as most likely they skip fixing the issues to save a little $$$.
The reason to add a lift is so the bigger tires will fit. My jeep has a 4" lift and aftermarket fenders that allow for 37" tires, when the tires are "stuffed" there is only about 1/8" clearance before they rub my fenders.
Excuse my newness to this topic, what does a suspension (regular lift right?)
That a body lift doesn't? Is the body life just a safe way to raise clearance?
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Excuse my newness to this topic, what does a suspension (regular lift right?)
That a body lift doesn't? Is the body life just a safe way to raise clearance?
Basically the cheapest way of fitting larger tires.. but it will only get you so far.. suspension lifts can also help with more travel , control of your travel as well as larger tires.

You have an offroad toy? Or thinking about getting one?
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I find it funny 4x4 guys area always bagging on each other, cant we all just get along, who cares who's more hardcore or the best at whatever, as long as you're out on the trails enjoying yourselves, it don't matter.

now baggin on priuses and 12" lifted 2wd trucks is another story..
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Basically the cheapest way of fitting larger tires.. but it will only get you so far.. suspension lifts can also help with more travel , control of your travel as well as larger tires.

You have an offroad toy? Or thinking about getting one?
I have a Tacoma that I want to get a little higher, off road tires are a must but I don't want any scraping or grinding
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Basically the cheapest way of fitting larger tires.. but it will only get you so far.. suspension lifts can also help with more travel , control of your travel as well as larger tires.

You have an offroad toy? Or thinking about getting one?
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/att...35b42fa5_b.jpg
This is what I'm going for
pretty much just like this
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