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Old 08-07-2013, 7:09 PM
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Ok, sustainable living people. Amidst of all the storing of food, ammo and whatknots. Any urban farming going on out there? I'll post some pictures later.
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are you still in Oxnard?
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I have been looking into it but I am limited myself as I live in an apartment for now but looking to move to a house to have a backyard farm. If you want both meat and vegtables and fruits you could alsways do aquaponics. I remeber reading on a blog about some guy and his wife with one baby who converted his whole backyard in costa mesa to aquaponics. His swimming pool has his fish and the water/ fish poop from that feeds their whole backyard setup. He also plans to set up a chicken coup over the pool so the fish could eat the chicken poop. The food chain circle of life lol. Tons of free info on it if you just google it many website dedicated to it.
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Here is my attempt. I only have a 4'x8" spot allotted to me.

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Ya this is our second year. tomato, bell pepper, habanero, banana pepper, onions, carrots, cauliflower, asparagus, parcly, apple, peach, lemons, limes, blood orange, orange, peach, avocado, grapes, berrys,
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frigginchi, what wood did you use to build your raised bed?
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I have a goat, 11 chickens and two orange trees .This winter I'm going to get serious about putting in a garden. Oh and I'm slowing planting and spreading 2 acres of Bermuda grass to feed my two horses. So hopefully by next year I won't need much of any horse feed and I'll be planting some fresh veggies and fruits. The hardest part is finding an hour or two each day to keep working towards your goal.
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The hardest part is finding an hour or two each day to keep working towards your goal.

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I have just got into growing vegetables. I live in Los Angeles. I dont have much space. I have a pool in the backyard. So i am doing my growing in the driveway. Mite also do a indoor grow setup around my house. I gredw some radishes and when i harvested most had been attacked by radish root maggots. They had minimum damage, very shallow burrowing through them. Can i still eat them after a good wash with hot water? I am gonna use diatomaceous food grade to prevent this by mixing it into my soil. Unless i can find the beneficial beetles who eat these maggots and release them into my garden. Anyone have any other ideas? For caterpillars and what not attacking the crops above the soil i use a blend of jalapeno, garlic, chile de arbol and natural soap blended with 1/2 gallon to 1 gallon water and spray on plant. Would like to post pics but my garden is not very nice looking yet.Oh and my tomatoes did horrible. Maybe there should be a gardening sticky on here or something for the preppers.
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Have been for a long time. Tomatoes, peppers, huge orange tree, chickens, etc.

Best bang for the buck, time, and space is potatoes. I'm always surprised more people don't grow them. They produce a huge volume of food in a small space, and they're really something you want to make sure wasn't grown someplace with bad soil or lots of chemicals.

Every seed potato will grow 5-12 new tubers. You plant them about 6" deep, and then when the stalks are about 4" high, you build little hills around the stalk to keep them cool & supported. And then you just water (good soak) once a week, less if the leaves turn yellow, more if they wilt. After 80 days you can dig them up for new potatoes (small, with very thin skins), or you can just leave them in the ground until the stalks turn brown, shrivel up, and die. That's how you know they're ready. Usually about 5 months, couldn't be easier. They're not very temperature-sensitive either. They do deplete your soil, so grow winter beans in the same box to help restore some nitrogen, and add some amendment in the spring before planting the potatoes.

I cover mine with a grate to keep the critters out - we have squirrels, skunks, raccoons, and possums around - but since they're going to sit & grow for 5 months, its not a hassle at all. Here they are at about 6 weeks, which was around the end of May. I planted 18 seed potatoes, 16 came up. From 16 plants in a 24" x 60" planter, I will get between 80 and 192 full-size potatoes. That's a lot of food.

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I have a goat, 11 chickens and two orange trees .This winter I'm going to get serious about putting in a garden. Oh and I'm slowing planting and spreading 2 acres of Bermuda grass to feed my two horses. So hopefully by next year I won't need much of any horse feed and I'll be planting some fresh veggies and fruits. The hardest part is finding an hour or two each day to keep working towards your goal.
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"Best bang for the buck, time, and space is potatoes. I'm always surprised more people don't grow them." All true, especially if you can find some specialty seed potatoes. There's little point in growing Russets where they're so cheap in the store.
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I have almost no available space (duplex on a 40'x80' piece of concrete).
I grow tomatoes in 5 gallon buckets. My best producers are early girls and I get 50-70 phenomenal tasting fruit per plant. I would grow other stuff but I don't really have the space.
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It's not really that much about being economical, or self-sufficient, at least for me.

I do urban farming to get more familiar with the process.

When you get into farming, you make mistakes.
So if SHTF someday, I want to already have the skills to
grow food, without having to worry about making mistakes
when it matters a lot more.

But there is benefit in having really good vegetables
that you grew yourself. They simply taste much better
than the ones you buy in the store. Especially tomatoes!

And yes, if I was in a more rural situation, I might want to
do a larger, more sustainable farm, to become more self-sufficient.
But since I am in the city, I plan on bugging out. I wouldn't want my
supply of food to become a magnet for hungry mobs.

I agree that potatoes are a good crop to practice growing.
You want to be familiar with growing crops that are high
in calories, carbs, vitamins, etc. Stuff you can actually
live off of. Corn, potatoes, beans, etc.
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I've opted to use the space I have in town for trees. One our residential lot I've managed 2 oranges, 1 almond, 1 fig, 3 pears, 1 peach tree. I have room for one more - am thinking Plum but not sure.

Oh and since I'm a nut case I plant quite a few sunflowers.
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Not mine, but these people have a really cool thing going in Pasadena of all places http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IbODJiEM5A .

Very inspiring, even for us country folk.
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Regular ole doug fir. It's cheap will last at least 3 or 4 seasons. Redwood now a days is crap and cedar is expensive. Pressure treated wood is bad for you.

The time to experiment with gardening is now. When the SHTF you don't wanna be trying it out.

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I am slowly turning about 1000 square feet of my backyard into a garden. I have grown red potatoes, russets, corn, monster sized squash, carrots, various peas, tomatoes. I have planted orange and apple trees, will be adding necterenes, pomegranate and one other.

Found a really good deal on a rear tine tiller recently so that has really motivated me to improve the garden area.

We already compost all of our scrap vegtable which is easy and free.

I plan on installing a drip irrigation system for my garden to make parts of it easier.

Also want to build a rain catcher system for irrigation purposes.

I want chickens but stupid zoning laws are hindering that idea.
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I have a small raised bed garden; some watermelon, bell peppers, jalapeño, mint, cilantro and a tomato plant. But the tomato plant is not going to survive it got powdery mildew from the looks of it

Question, can I plant a new tomato plant where the old one was or will it get contaminated as well?
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Not urban but about 80% of my vegetable gardening happens inside a 14' x 12' area, so it COULD be urban.

Right now we have:

Tomatoes
Peppers
Lemon cucumbers
Crookneck squash
Zucchini
Eggplant
Tomatillos
Carrots
Strawberries
Potatoes
Basil
Parsley

The radishes are done, the swiss chard is done, the snap peas had a great run this spring and I'll plant more for a fall crop after I fix the rotting raised wooden box that they live in.

I like 55 gallon plastic barrels cut in half for planting containers.
They aren't very pretty but they last forever and they can be moved around and relocated as desired and they are cheap.

When I moved here I found an old hot tub buried under blackberry bushes. I almost hauled it to the dump but instead it became a "raised bed". It's full of peppers and carrots this year. Last year it was full of potatoes.







Now if only we cold get some decent warm weather so all this stuff doesn't die...
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Ok, sustainable living people. Amidst of all the storing of food, ammo and whatknots. Any urban farming going on out there? I'mm post some pictures later.
I don't think it's possible because there's just not enough land to sustain you.
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I don't think it's possible because there's just not enough land to sustain you.
For most folks that's true... you aren't going to live on what you can grow in a few dozen square feet of space.

But if you already have a stash of rice and beans and canned goods in your pantry, a few fresh herbs & vegetables from the garden would be a nice addition to the rations, eh?
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For me, gardening has been an exercise in learning how to keep the bugs, vermin, and birds away from my crops. Sprouting a few seeds is easy enough but then the onslaught begins, starting with snails and slugs.

Wire fabric works well under my raised planters to keep the gophers and moles out. My planters are all lined with plastic to preserve the wood. My new greenhouse *should* keep out everything but that remains to be seen.

I hate the thought of spending good money on poisons to keep the critters at bay so I'm learning how to keep them out via other means.
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I had a couple thousand square feet but a giant frolicking horde of Golden Retrievers and one feloniously inclined Beagle made a hole in the fence and annihilated everything last year. I'll redo it once I'm finished with another remodel and can devote time to a large fence install.

Three things:

1) Even if you don't have enough land to support you and yours, you are acquiring skillsets and that was my motivation.

2) Avoid pressure treated lumber. That copper chromium arsenate leaches out and the resulting produce WILL have high levels of those elements in them. Go with Doug fir.. maybe coat it with varnish for a little longer life.

3) There's a book "How to Grow More Vegetables" by John Jeavons out of Willits. Follow the advice in that book..man that process works!!!!
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For me, gardening has been an exercise in learning how to keep the bugs, vermin, and birds away from my crops. Sprouting a few seeds is easy enough but then the onslaught begins, starting with snails and slugs.
Beer traps work pretty well for snails & slugs.
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Yep. For a while, unfortunately.
my girlfriend has done quite well with her garden in her apartment that has a small patio area. she used the window planters and an old bookshelf. they are doing well.

and yes Oxnard blows. there is lots to do in Ventura county though.
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Op, I am a master at killing everything green, but I'm working on it.
If you don't have the horizontal space look into vertical gardening. I've seen a load of great ideas from pvc pipe with holes cut for the plants to start from (both vertical and horizontal) Google:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pvc+pipe+garden

Then there's burlap sack pots:
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There's a website called instructables if you need more inspiration. Sorry in advance about the lmgtfy links, they are easier than huge Google search links
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We will be. Just moved into place this year so didn't have time to prep.
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Here is last years view inside the backyard greenhouse. I made this thing with free window from craigslist and pallets i found. kind of an experiment to see how low budget i could make the entire thing out of.
All in all, the trial and error of growing crops is something i feel people today "in general" take for granted.
that looks good.
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I have been TRYING to grow for a couple of years now. I have a couple of small raised beds. Problem is the critters (Rats and maybe racoons) keep eating up my veggies. I have tried different things, small opening chicken wire, sacrificial veggies, sitting out there with my night vision and pellet gun (not really but I should) and the little critters keep getting my food. My dog is worthless ( unless you need something that will crawl under the covers and snores/farts all night).

I am at my wits end. how do you guys grow such nice gardens and not feed the rats/racoons/squirrels?
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If any of you guys have set up an aquaponics or hydroponics system would you care to share some pics?
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I took mine down but give this site a shot.

http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/

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http://community.theaquaponicsource.com/


Thanks, will do. Can you give me a rough estimate of what your start-up cost(s) was/were?
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About $500 bucks. I coulda scrounged for stuff to make it for free, but I'm kinda impatient


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If you like a rustic look you could use stones for the raised bed. Also you could use tree limbs instead of cut wood. The bonus to the tree limbs is when they decay they release fertalizer and they last longer then normal wood planks.
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Not mine, but these people have a really cool thing going in Pasadena of all places http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IbODJiEM5A .

Very inspiring, even for us country folk.
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Old 09-03-2013, 8:51 PM
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I just started growing some tomatoes and peppers this summer. Anyone know some good beginner plants I can do in fall/winter?
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