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Old 07-05-2013, 3:28 PM
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Garand in unlocked CMP case, on front seat of my 2 seat convertible.

It won't fit it in my trunk; but I want to take both my new toys to the range, how will the average boy in blue (black) react?
This as as low as it'll go in the front seat:


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Old 07-05-2013, 3:34 PM
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Will the rifle without the case fit in your trunk?

Why cant you lock the case?

Will you get pulled over as described?, probably not unless you were doing something else wrong. I understand youre trying to do the right thing but I think you can go a little further if youre that worried.

Now if youre asking if how youre transporting is legal, i wont get into that debate. There are other threads with dozens of pages debating that.
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Old 07-05-2013, 3:41 PM
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I can lock the case, but it's not required for rifles/longuns (insofar as i understand the law), Oh and I dont want my nice 'special' grade M1's bouncing around un cased in the trunk. Even if they fit, which i dont think they will (too long)
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Old 07-05-2013, 3:43 PM
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Why not just wrap in a towel or sheet if your that worried.
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Old 07-05-2013, 4:30 PM
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Considering it takes 5 seconds to pull the stock off a Garand, get a shorter case.
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Old 07-05-2013, 5:32 PM
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Considering it takes 5 seconds to pull the stock off a Garand, get a shorter case.
Good idea and prolly the wise way to go- however I want to know whether or not I get bumped solely for the visible case...I believe the majority of officers who recognize the case as a "firearm case" would at least stop me if not a felony stop, but i've been wrong before (a couple times). By the letter of the law, IS THE CASE PC for a stop IN YOUR leo opinion? I don't think it is, based on what I've gathered here. Please excuse my attention whoring and either ignore me or offer an honest response!

(I think there's some case law on the whole "case" thing where for the purposes of establishing PC, a firearms manufacturer's logo on a case was not enough to search and 12031e check, but I'm foggy on the details.)
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Old 07-05-2013, 6:46 PM
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No i dont believe the case is PC for a stop and I wouldn't stop you based on the case. So dont take this wrong or think im rude cause I dont at all mean it to be so but I honestly dont care at all about seeing a gun case in the car of a random citizen driving down the road. It looks like your driving a $50,000 sports car and im guessing you look like a totally normal person. A lot of people feel self important on calguns and have a weird view of the police. Im looking for criminals and the 3% of the population that needs my attention. Not some dude in a sports car thats going to the range and might not properly have his firearm locked. Common sense would tell me you drive a small car and have a big rifle and cant secure it but attempted to do the best you can, ok see ya, be safe pulling out into traffic, 10-8. Most cops arnt looking to screw the general public with nickel and dime stuff and im sorry if you run into one that feels the opposite.
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Old 07-05-2013, 9:56 PM
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If you really worried buy a cheap guitar case and put it in that.....

Or just cover it with a blanket....

Don't stress out about this....
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You might get in trouble, you should just give me all your guns. I have a truck and can easily transport them without trouble.


You should be ok. Just to be safe, lock them up, and get one of the bag tags from the calguns store that say "...consent to search is not given...".
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Considering it takes 5 seconds to pull the stock off a Garand, get a shorter case.
Not a good idea unless you have ammo to waste. When you put it back together, it will take several rounds (20-30) to get it settled properly back into the stock. Total waste of ammo.
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Is that a 'real' Cobra?
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Unless its secured to the interior of the vehicle, id be more concerned about some one grabbing it while in traffic!
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:31 PM
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Yes, but only cuz I like cool cars and Garands.
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Old 07-06-2013, 2:11 AM
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Like others have said, if you are pretty worried about the gun case get a big guitar case or something. Otherwise, transport the rifle legally and have fun(both driving and at the range)! It does crack me up though when people with flashy/sporty cars get all worried about the attention they cause. If you really don't want the attention, get a mid 2000's family car, keep it stock, and all lights/equipment working properly!
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Old 07-06-2013, 2:25 AM
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Atleast strap it down with the seat belt.
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Even though its not required, just slap a couple small padlocks on it. Make sure your legal every else and your GTG.
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Old 07-06-2013, 8:11 AM
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Old 07-06-2013, 8:34 AM
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I think it's sad that this conversation has to even come up. The split second you leave this place and go to the United States, no one gives a crap as its in a case!
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Is that a 'real' Cobra?
Of course not...
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Old 07-06-2013, 8:42 AM
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I would just to check out the cobra... Kit car or not.. Awesome.. Unless its got a small block Chevy in it.
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My 2 cents. In my case I have it hard that you.

When I take my rifle to the range I ride down the highway with it strapped. Sometimes to my back. Sometimes to the bike. Either way it's plainly obvious to most who look at for more than a few seconds that I have a rifle in a lockable nice drag case with straps tooling the peninsula.

The case is locked. But I go the extra step and put a lock through the receiver as well. While the exposed case might cause a few nervous looks no one will be able to fault me for having a cavalier attitude about the rifle being ready to use should I go down and the rifle somehow is ripped from the bag.

Sadly, I have to say make an effort to comply with this state's restrictive (and insane) laws and I am sure you'll b e fine in most of your average situations. But keep aware of your local attitudes and events as well.
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Old 07-06-2013, 9:08 AM
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I'm not going to see anything in your car below the windows, so your question is not very realistic. Just store your firearm legally and you have no worries.
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Old 07-06-2013, 9:29 AM
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You're just bragging.......

Stupid is, is what Stupid does. Call your lawyer, then brag about that $$. Guessing by the garage refinement... you'll skip the lawyer.
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Garand in unlocked CMP case, on front seat of my 2 seat convertible.

It won't fit it in my trunk; but I want to take both my new toys to the range, how will the average boy in blue (black) react?
This as as low as it'll go in the front seat:


Well, I think that the most obvious problem is that your passenger doesn't have its seatbelt fastened. Hard acceleration/braking/cornering might cause your passenger to become ejected from the vehicle.

Secondly, go buy a simple combination lock and secure the case:

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Old 07-06-2013, 3:45 PM
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You're just bragging.......

Stupid is, is what Stupid does. Call your lawyer, then brag about that $$. Guessing by the garage refinement... you'll skip the lawyer.
You dont like my cabinets?
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Take the grand out and fasten it to one of you're lake pipes
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Old 07-06-2013, 4:34 PM
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Not gettin pulled over. I'd just smile and drive by.
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Old 07-06-2013, 5:18 PM
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You dont like my cabinets?
And your lighting isn't very flattering either... just funning.

I know high-end garages, add a couple of four-posters racked with $2mil worth of cars -- and not a single tool box in sight, now you have some means.
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Old 07-06-2013, 5:23 PM
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A kit Cobra can be emission, SMOG exempt... worth its weight.
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If that's your only car then you're doing it wrong. I have a "toy" as well (nsx) but I also own a jeep and a Honda fit for 99% of the other days.
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I would lock it up and throw a towel/blanket over it. If I saw it I would be thinking "no big deal".

Here's the problem......Joe Citizen sees it, calls it in, I see you....then I have to check you out. Its best to avoid the problem and cover it up.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:37 PM
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Welp, i made it to Sac valley (as pictured)and back, uneventful, didnt hafta call my attorney or anything even though two chippies passed me, fortunately i wasnt providing any legitimate PC for a stop so my research on police knowledge of firearm transport law continues!

Thanks to the guys that actually answered my question without insults
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A kit Cobra can be emission, SMOG exempt... worth its weight.
Yup- got my sb-100 number years ago. 100% smog exempt!
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I would be more concerned about theft.


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I'd suggest strapping it in, locking the case and keeping ammo locked in the trunk.
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Depends on how loud your exhaust is
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I'm not concerned with, nor did I ask about security; perhaps you routinely leave firearms unattended in a vehicle? (I try not to do that).

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I'd suggest strapping it in, locking the case and keeping ammo locked in the trunk.
Thanks for the un-solicited cargo securing tips but the rifle case is quite secure as pictured, it gets locked before entering GFSZ's and the loaded enblocs do fine rolling around on the carpeted floor. Heck, sometimes I just shovel a scoop of HXP over the door.
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