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Old 06-25-2013, 10:18 AM
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What books would you have in your SHTF Library?

Title, author and what SHTF situation you think it would be good for. I would imagine some would be good for any.

After reading that EMP post, I really want to get some hard copies of books now.
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I got some great suggestions from another Calguns thread last year.

Things like (amazon will find these, I'm too lazy to look them up for authors):

Where there is no dentist.
Where there is no doctor
Wilderness Medicine
Pocket Ref (author Glover)
Special Ops Forces Medical Handbook
SAS Survival Handbook


That's what I have off the top of my head. Note that most are medical based since that is my weakest area of knowledge.
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Since one never knows how much ***** is going to hit the fan until after it has happened, any books on skills that are needed in a no-longer electrified world couldn't hurt.

Carpentry
Farming
Animal Husbandry
Tanning/Curing hides
Medical/Dental
Herbal Medicine
Hunting/Trapping
Blacksmith/Metalworking
Map Reading/Land Navigation
Clothes Making
Primative Living
Etc.....
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all great info above, another prepper just sent me this link today so I can not speak "for" the book yet, I did order my copy today though and will let you know http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/C...Manual___.html

and as kaligaran mentioned, "where there is no" series are must have med books and can be bought or downloaded for free here http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/ they even have an advanced copy of the new versions (free) another good one, Medicaly speaking, is Armageddon Medicine can be purchased here, I would also recommend downloading all the free info here as well http://armageddonmedicine.net/?cat=1 , hope this helps

forgot one more medical book, another free download, http://practicalplasticsurgery.org/the-book/ ,yes funny title, but alot of good info

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all great info above, another prepper just sent me this link today so I can not speak "for" the book yet, I did order my copy today though and will let you know http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/C...Manual___.html

and as kaligaran mentioned, "where there is no" series are must have med books and can be bought or downloaded for free here http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/ they even have an advanced copy of the new versions (free) another good one, Medicaly speaking, is Armageddon Medicine can be purchased here, I would also recommend downloading all the free info here as well http://armageddonmedicine.net/?cat=1 , hope this helps

forgot one more medical book, another free download, http://practicalplasticsurgery.org/the-book/ ,yes funny title, but alot of good info
Agree Kaligarans "where there is no" series looks awesome. Thanks for the free download link! Like to read a book before buying it. The other maxveloctity one looks good from the sneak peek on amazon. Thanks for the great info thus far!

Still trying to think of how I could apply my IT knowledge in a SHTF situation. Don't think there is a book on that. There may not be any internet, so I can't google stuff. Also means I can't download or try to find applications I could use. There may not be any electricity, so being awesome on a computer won't be useful until you could find a way to power it. Which reminds me to find a generator.
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Aside from the great suggestions above I have to mention a few that were over looked and have great articles.


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Still trying to think of how I could apply my IT knowledge in a SHTF situation. Don't think there is a book on that. There may not be any internet, so I can't google stuff. Also means I can't download or try to find applications I could use. There may not be any electricity, so being awesome on a computer won't be useful until you could find a way to power it. Which reminds me to find a generator.
Yeah as a software engineer, I'm in the same boat. LOL

Thanks for those suggestions xgi1991. I'll have to add those books (the hard copy versions) to my Amazon wish list.

I'm doing my best to acquire hard copy of everything. I've also bought some water proof dry bags to put them all in if I ever had to leave home.
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Agree Kaligarans "where there is no" series looks awesome. Thanks for the free download link! Like to read a book before buying it. The other maxveloctity one looks good from the sneak peek on amazon. Thanks for the great info thus far!

Still trying to think of how I could apply my IT knowledge in a SHTF situation. Don't think there is a book on that. There may not be any internet, so I can't google stuff. Also means I can't download or try to find applications I could use. There may not be any electricity, so being awesome on a computer won't be useful until you could find a way to power it. Which reminds me to find a generator.
As for as your IT background, get into HAM radio and learn how to send and recieve data over a HAM network (yes, it can be done), go to IBM.com and buy a few referb'd laptops for pennys on the dollar and put them in an EMP proof container, put all the .pdfs on a zip and put that in the container as well. communication will be paramont in such a situation, your IT skills will still be useful, thank out of the box brother.

Oh, and before the HAM nazies come in to say the FCC does not allow that, well, grid down, FCC will not exist

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Porn Mags.


No, seriously. If SHTF, Porn Mags will be worth their weight in gold.
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I would buy a book on how to find different types of metals in the wild so you would know where to go and build your tools and weapons. I would also buy books on primitive survival living to understand what plants are good for what purpose and also how to make electricity.
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For those fellow IT Pros...your skill is preparation and the big $$$ your making now...so spend it wisely and stock up on worthwhile knowledge, skills, and supplies.

The laptops are an interesting idea for digital media but so is a physical book library in wide and varying topics. Don't focus on either-or but rather build both.

Where would you go if you had to leave your home? Where are the food distribution centers in your region? Where are there isolated communities and what could you offer them as a worthwhile skill to trade for you and your families room and board. Noodle it now and prepare.
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Something like a Nook, Kindle Fire or iTouch with a solar charger seems like it could be a good resource loaded with the right stuff, especially if you need to be mobile. that said, there's nothing to knock about printed paper which has proven to be reliable over hundreds of years if kept dry and requires no power supplies. That is why libraries exist. For centuries, they have been physical repositories of generations of knowledge preserved and shared with future generations. It is sad and scary to see them collapsing and going digital. Digital needs constant power and can too easily be revised with a couple of keystrokes. Paper is nearly forever if cared for.

I've got a couple that I'd add to the abov:

The US Army Survival Manual. It might be old, but the basics are all still valid.

Cody Lundin's When All Hell Breaks Loose. Maybe one of the most informative books I've ever read about how to stay alive.

Cody Lundin's 98.6 The Art of Keeping Yourself Alive. Foundational book on what it really takes to sustain life in urban and rural settings. Many survival books just talk about being out in the woods. Most of us don't live there. This book talks about how to survive in an Urban environment.

Patriots by James Wesley Rawles. Get over the fact that most people can never do the kind of prepping that this Novel talks about and the political parts. There is lots of interesting info on a variety of subjects covered in this book.

I'll add to the list if I can think of any others.
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PDFs and such on your old MicroSD card (that still reads/writes ) and your old rooted Android with a full backup of the OS and reader-apps (on the card too) in an ammo can with a solar charger ($15 off of eBay)... iPhones require service for a lot more than Android does, and if anything gets wonkie, do iPhones have to have a functioning Internet data pipe if you have to factory them? I know my former Androids don't... You may want to test apps in Airplane mode.
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Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

When it comes to rebuilding a society there really is no better book to set the foundation.
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Back to Basics by Reader's Digest
Basic Butchering of Livestock and Game by Mettler

Also, home repair, improvement books by Better Homes n Gardens

Backwoods magazines and books outline a lot of self reliance options.
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So, are these books going in your bug out bag or the truck you are going to abandon on the side of the road.
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Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

When it comes to rebuilding a society there really is no better book to set the foundation.
Own it, it has been recommended by a few people. Have not had time to read it yet.
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So, are these books going in your bug out bag or the truck you are going to abandon on the side of the road.
Good point. I would only be able to carry a few books in my bug out bag. Not all events will require me to leave my home though and that is what I would be planning for. I also won't be carrying all the books myself, I can distribute them through multiple BOB's.

I was talking to my rifle instructor about how concerned I was that I have so many different subjects and topics to learn. He told me not to worry about it, that's what friends are for. I can't expect to become a trained surgeon, electrician, gunsmith etc...

In some ways the goal is just to become aware of the knowledge that can be so easily lost and what to look for to get that knowledge back.
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My favorites are from James Wesley Rawles, How to Survive the End of the World as We Know It.


Also buy his SurvivalBlog Archive DVD 2005-2012: http://www.survivalblog.com/archivecd.html



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With this DVD, you'll always have access to the SurvivalBlog archives, even if the Internet is not available. And if you are on-line while using the DVD, then the links to external web sites (from both HTML and PDF) will be fully functional.

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Ranger Handbook SH 21-76
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I like this book a lot along with Joel Skousens Strategic Relocation book.





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Good call. Nope. However, they are on an encrypted thumbdrive. I've cached CDs at family member's houses too. Don't forget mechanic's manuals for your vehicles and gunsmithing manuals for your weps.
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Good call. Nope. However, they are on an encrypted thumbdrive. I've cached CDs at family member's houses too. Don't forget mechanic's manuals for your vehicles and gunsmithing manuals for your weps.
Ohhh.... mechanic's manuals for vehicles...

That's such an obvious one, I'm going to pretend that I thought about that long ago (rushes to google manuals for all my vehicles).
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I saw this audio book torrent that looked interesting.

http://kickass.to/best-disaster-prep...-t7437382.html
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Just thought of translation books. Like for spanish to english... maybe chinese, korean, and russian to english too



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What is a good book on what plants you can eat in the wild?

Also looking for a good basic chemistry book, for like how to make explosives or gun powder. Anything useful for SHTF that can be done with basic chemistry.

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I got some great suggestions from another Calguns thread last year.

Things like (amazon will find these, I'm too lazy to look them up for authors):

Where there is no dentist.
Where there is no doctor
Wilderness Medicine
Pocket Ref (author Glover)
Special Ops Forces Medical Handbook
SAS Survival Handbook


That's what I have off the top of my head. Note that most are medical based since that is my weakest area of knowledge.
Who is the Wilderness medicine by? Quite a few come up on amazon.
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Who is the Wilderness medicine by? Quite a few come up on amazon.
I don't recall, I'll have to look later if I remember. I just looked up reviews on them until I found the one with the most and best reviews. I don't know if one is actually better than the rest or not.
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I definently want one with color pictures, still looking myself. The amazon quick peak is not letting me see enough to tell if it's good. Might have to go to an actual bookstore...
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Find the Foxfire books

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That's kinda excessive....
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That's kinda excessive....
Lots of used copies floating around. I bought mine at a huge semi-annual book sale my town holds every year
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Here is a website with tons of PDF files available for free download. You can browse the topics/titles and pick what you want or just download everything in one shot.

http://www.armageddononline.org/disaster-prep-help.html

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Save any book you can, and right now is a great time to get old textbooks since everything is going to electronic format, or a new edition was released to screw students.

emp and cme are still not very well understood and I think people have really overestimated their effects. Power grids are susceptible because they in a large part don't have breaker/fuse protection -there just isn't the economic tech for that industry. But your house, and various electronics are protected and can be shielded further.

Some things just aren't going to be effected by the radiation due to the inverse square law. The hdd you packed with pdfs and movies ranging from physics to gardening will most likely be fine sitting on your desk. Fire up the genny, replace/reset the house breakers and ups, and turn the computer on and rebuild society.

The internet was built to survive a nuclear war. The fiberoptics won't be affected. At the most the transmitters might have problems on the cable receiver end.


Also it is a good idea to try and read the books you think you might need. You may not remember all that you have read, but during an event certain scenarios may trigger memories of what you have read so you can quickly make decisions. As opposed to sitting down and reading through the book while chaos is ensuing and people are begging you for an answer.


Also, I think if you have the space, you should download as many USGS/NOAA maps and nautical charts as possible, along with one of the free GIS software programs. You can buy the old maps, its just with the gis programs some of them have a calculator built in for the magnetic deviation.

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I have been collecting books for just this reason. I am probably pushing 100 books by now covering science, survival, animal husbandry, farming and gardening, medicine, trapping, hunting, living off the land, gun and blacksmithing, wood work, etc.

I am still looking to lay my hands on a fairly recent copy of the Encyclopedia Britannica but they are hard to find and can be very pricey.

Every so often I run across something in my reading and wonder how it is done or how I could use it and go to my small library to see if I can find out more.

Unfortunately, I am finding for useful information on many a topic, you have to get very specialized books in that topic or field.

For example, I wanted to see how to make charcoal...out of a 28 volume science and invention encyclopedia, three separate blacksmith books, and countless "how to live off the land" books, not one how-to article on it.

Also of note, many medical books cover first aid or trauma response, but very few, at least in my collection, show long term care.

One other note, if you start to build a library, give some thought to the which edition of a book you may want. Do you want a book of modern chemistry that is built off a modern supply system and with ready made or premixed components, or something from turn of the 19th century that talks about all the particular ingredients and how to mix them without the various devices and instruments in a current lab?

Just some food for thought.
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Old 10-27-2013, 4:42 PM
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For example, I wanted to see how to make charcoal...out of a 28 volume science and invention encyclopedia, three separate blacksmith books, and countless "how to live off the land" books, not one how-to article on it.
Are you trying to make charcoal or activated charcoal? The first is easy the second requires a type of acid (forget which one).

You can esily find this out on forms and other how to sites. If you want it in a hard book form just copy the website into a pdf or something like that and print it out and make your own book with it printed and sown to cardboard or something stuff like the backing to a jornal. Or just buy a notebook hardback jornal and rip out the paper and put your own in. Now you have your favorite how to articles on gunpowerder, blacksmithing, charcoal, or what ever else you want.
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Are you trying to make charcoal or activated charcoal?
Nope, just making a point of testing out your library for its intended use. In the example I provided, making charcoal, even though I had 8 relevant books that had charcoal as a subject, none of them listed how to make it.
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Nope, just making a point of testing out your library for its intended use. In the example I provided, making charcoal, even though I had 8 relevant books that had charcoal as a subject, none of them listed how to make it.
I know that you're looking for hard copies of info, but my PDF survival library has several texts that deal with that topic. It's all pretty organized. if you want to be on the list for the thumbdrive of info that's going around, send me a snail mail address and I'll add you to the list.....
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