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Old 05-22-2013, 6:22 AM
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I'm looking at purchasing a 22lr rifle for my wife..I have no idea of the benefits/disadvantages of different actions/configurations..love the look of the lever. Tube feed vs mag? See Ruger 10/22
mentioned alot. Saw a Browning pump 22lr? Ithica also for sale? Any advice appreciated~
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Old 05-22-2013, 6:26 AM
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Go for a nice lever action 22 like a Henry. Its not EBR looking and they take 22S, 22L as well as 22LR.

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Old 05-22-2013, 6:39 AM
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I have all four styles and my wife's favorite rifle is her 10-22. You need to talk about this with your wife and see if she has a preference. If possible, see if anyone near you will let you try them at a range or see if a range has any as rentals.
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I have two sons, 9 and 11. both go to the range with me. I have a 10/22 with tech sights and a single shot bolt with marbles bullseye sights. just added a M&P15-22. we don't do any scoped shooting.

my older son loves the 10/22 and M&P15-22. my younger son loves to feed the bolt one shot at a time and hit golf balls and other assorted targets. he's methodical. he doesn't even really care that much for the 10/22. I can't figure that one out

all depends on the person really. they're all fun to shoot but each action will fit a person differently. one thing though I've discovered about both is that they'd rather hit something than punch holes in paper. I bought a few different targets, like those tripod walking things, a wobbler, and pop up plate, etc. I throw out golf balls and old baseballs too. also the steel that the range already has keeps them busy.

one thing that I would argue, and maybe some will disagree, is avoid scopes until they've shot a while and a scoped rifle is something they want. one, learn good shooting, but more than that, scopes get kind of boring. iron is a challenge, until one learns to shoot with them and then honestly, they're (good irons) as accurate as scopes. and scopes are harder to learn on because of the wobbling.

shoot a couple styles first if you can and then see what she'd most want.
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I gave my wife a Browning BL22 for Valentines Day, she loves the size and short lever throw. These rifles have very good sights, show a quality build.

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Old 05-22-2013, 3:05 PM
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As reliable an inexpensive as semi-autos are, I would probably get my wife a Marlin m60 of some variant and call it good. She's not too keen on the loading thing, as she calls it, she just likes to shoot. Don't we all? So a tubular mag sounds about right. That way she'll have to slow down for a couple of minutes so I can catch up with my m25 bolt.
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owned them all. only thing to compare is fun factor. lever action wins every time
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Have them all...but the wife like the 10/22.
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self loading are fun but to use the full spectrum of rimfire you need a manually operated one

benefits liabilities

first off for repeaters you are going to have to choose between tube or box magazine

a box magazine is often detachable but is limited in capacity normally between 4-10 a tube holds an amount equal to the length of your particular ammo layed end to end which can be between 10-20 depending on your tube length and cartridge chosen

benefits to a tube you will not lose the magazine although the inner tube could be misplaced

cons the action using the tube generally has a more complicated feeding system

box magazine

pro you can have multiple spares ,less complicated feeding system

cons if the magazine becomes lost or damaged it may ruin your day the feed lips may be fragile depending on the design


after that choice then you can go on to the 3 action types

bolt action generally a more simple and open design for ease of cleaning and inspection often need to lose sight picture when actuating trigger finger hand does the operating

lever action often smoothly operating and operable while still on target trigger finger hand has to do the work of loading and firing

pump action operable while still on target off hand does the work of loading trigger finger hand stays in firing position only has to fire
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Old 05-22-2013, 3:52 PM
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I have a .22 semi, .22 bolt, .22 pump, and .22 lever.

For plinking, I like the .22 pump the best.

For precision work, the .22 bolt.

But they're all fun!
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Very basic list of most common rifles of each category

Magazine fed Semi:
Marlin 795
Ruger 10/22
Remington 597
Savage 64f

Tube fed Semi:
Marlin 60

Tube fed Bolt:
Marlin XT-22 (They also make magazine fed)
Many old differnt Marlin models

Tube fed Lever:
Marlin 39A
Henry

Tube fed Pump:
Remington 572
Winchester 62A
Henry


Pretty sure the Ithica 22LR where all single shots...

Personally I would start with a semiautomatic magazine fed.
And then go to Appleseed
Then over time add on the different action types.
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i have an oddball lever its a winchester 150 it looks like an autoloader but has the lever but it sometimes doesnt kick out the empty probably need a new firing pin as it does double duty as the ejector

ruger made a lever 22 like the 10/22 that was i believe called the 96 i think they bade them for the australian market when they banned self loaders
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I go for ruger 10/22


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I have no experience with the Marlin, although I have heard nice things about them.

I have several Ruger 10/22s, and I am sure that if your wife got one that she would like it. It is a light, handy rifle that is easy to operate.

The Henry H-001 lever-action rifle is another good one to consider. I have one of these and I really like it. It is light, even simpler to operate than the 10/22, and is a very good-looking rifle, which is something to consider when buying a rifle for a lady. The wood and metal finishings on the Henry are particularly nice. The H-001 has a dovetail rail which makes it easy to add a red dot sight or scope. I can also report that it is very easy to replace the rear and front sight on the Henry if you decide that your wife wants a nicer sight, such as the Skinner peep sight system or a fiber optic front sight. This is much easier to do on the Henry than on the 10/22.

Bottom line is that you can't hardly make a bad choice among the above. Naturally there are other choices out there as well.
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I have always been partial to the pumps myself, especially the models (most older models in fact) that will shoot shorts, longs or LR.

One of my biggest regrets was "loaning" my father my old Winchester pump action when he bought a house in Cotati so that he could control the pests that would come after his chickens, rabbits and other small livestock. When he retied and moved to Texas he "forgot" to return it .

I have asked him several times to send it back but so far have not received it. I doubt I ever will....

That rifle would hold 40 rounds of .22 shorts in the tube
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If I'm shooting from a rested position the bolt gun is unbeatable. I feel involved in shooting when I cycle the bolt and load the next round. Best rest with a semiauto is kinda boring for me. A bolt gun is much more engaging.

If I'm shooting from a standing position then I'd go semiauto.
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I have all 3 including a vintage Remington pump. If I could only have one, it would be the pump from my Grandfather.
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My first ever gun was a .22 gallery gun from Winchester, I think it was a mod 90 (?). It was supposed to use .22 shorts, but would split cases because it was so very worn. I sold it to a guy for the gun and 10 bucks. He "sleeved" it with a .22 case. It ruptured, then he cut off the end and put it back in the chamber, in other words he used that for lining. Genius. Groups reportedly tightened up to quite acceptable again. It was my grandfathers, I got it when he passed on. Goodness knows how long it had been since it had seen any Hoppes or oil!

Sorry, got carried away by the memories. Anyway, like I said above, semi-auto for the wife, a bolt for me.
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My wife likes my Henry H001. Simple, light, smooth action.

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I don't have a bolt .22, but have a 10-22 and a Henry Lever, as well as a Taurus pump. The Ruger Sights for me don't work because probably of my age. The Henry is a different animal, great sights and very accurate.
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Every new shooter that I have taken to the range likes the 10-22 the best. I don't have a lever gun, but I let them shoot my Anschutz bolt gun and Remington 572. The Anschutz is a 1000 times more accurate and higher quality than the Ruger 10-22 but everyone unanimously likes the 10-22.
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In my family, I have been christened "Vintage .22 Rescue" I love older .22 rifles My/ family collection includes a Savage 4,5,6,and 7 Stevens/Springfield 86, a Henry pump (round Barrel), Mossberg 44

My older nephew loves the Mossberg 44 with a 6-24 scope on it, My younger likes the Savage 6with iron sights....he can hit a propane tank at 300 yards with iron sights talk about "Kentucky Windage/Elevation"

I probably should put higher visibility front sights on the iron sighted rifles, the Springfield has a Williams fire sight on the front it makes a big difference.

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This is my wife's favorite rifle! Who would have thunk it! its a single shot from 1915, with a 24" barrel.



Let your wife shoot a few and she will let you know what she likes. DR
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If she isn't very tall look at the Henry youth model little shorter stock may fit smaller people, my 19 year old granddaughter loves it.
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I own about 25 or so .22 rifles. I've just always had a thing for gallery guns so, pumps always get my attention. But, lever actions are just as fun for plinking and hunting. Semis are also fun plinkers. Bolt actions are great for precision work or just having fun. I vote for getting her a different rifle for each pair of shoes she has.
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I'm partial to levers, particularly the Marlin 39A which I got here as a CR on calguns.

Was finnicky and over oiled when I first got her, but now runs smooth. It's great for offhand shooting, not so much for bench or prone.

As a former owner of a Ruger 10/22, there's a breakdown of differences between a rifle with a user moved "slide" type action e.g. pump/lever, a bolt and a semi auto in my opinion. You are balancing ammo selection, ease of handling off hand/walking, ease of handling prone and speed of follow up shots. I would suggest if you e.g. had a pump, 10/22 - Marlin 60 and a bolt in the safe, you would use them for different uses like varmitting with the pump running 22 shorts, destroying tin cans with the semi auto and playing with 50 yard targets with the bolt.
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So if this bill passes, will alll the 22 lr that are fed one way or another with multiple rounds be reclassed assualt rifles, leaving the bolt action the only 22 lr that will not be effected
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So if this bill passes, will alll the 22 lr that are fed one way or another with multiple rounds be reclassed assualt rifles, leaving the bolt action the only 22 lr that will not be effected
If I read that law correctly, it means that a bolt action .22 rifle with a detachable magazine purchased after 1/1/14 such as a Savage Mark II or a Marlin XT-22 would have to be registered.
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As reliable an inexpensive as semi-autos are, I would probably get my wife a Marlin m60 of some variant and call it good. She's not too keen on the loading thing, as she calls it, she just likes to shoot. Don't we all? So a tubular mag sounds about right. That way she'll have to slow down for a couple of minutes so I can catch up with my m25 bolt.
Perfect! You've given me the perfect solution for arthritic fingers that don't work too well with pressure. If that isn't work...hell....what's another fine .22LR rifle to the collection
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