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Old 03-21-2013, 4:40 PM
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Getting to the end of my rope trying to find a cc that I can have pocket holstered (wallet size) here in CA.
Anytime I come to a conclusion as to what I want, I check roster and it's not on it.
I guess we have to see a model and check roster before we check fit, quality, performance, value
What I found was; 1. Sig Sauer P290rs, 2.Ruger LC9, both off Roster
Can Anyone suggest a good small pistol for CC for wallet type holster? I'm just getting real tired of looking and would appreciate any help.
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Old 03-21-2013, 4:41 PM
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Getting to the end of my rope trying to find a cc that I can have pocket holstered (wallet size) here in CA.
Anytime I come to a conclusion as to what I want, I check roster and it's not on it.
I guess we have to see a model and check roster before we check fit, quality, performance, value
What I found was; 1. Sig Sauer P290rs, 2.Ruger LC9, both off Roster
Can Anyone suggest a good small pistol for CC for wallet type holster? I'm just getting real tired of looking and would appreciate any help.
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PPT or SSE a Kahr PM9 / CM9 ? Those seem to be quite popular.
Or even a Walther PPS ?

But yeah, you're going to pay through the nose.
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Find a dealer around you that does single shot exemptions.

Buy a LCP.

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Kahr PM9 or P380. Both are On the roster.
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Getting to the end of my rope trying to find a cc that I can have pocket holstered (wallet size) here in CA.
Anytime I come to a conclusion as to what I want, I check roster and it's not on it.
I guess we have to see a model and check roster before we check fit, quality, performance, value
What I found was; 1. Sig Sauer P290rs, 2.Ruger LC9, both off Roster
Can Anyone suggest a good small pistol for CC for wallet type holster? I'm just getting real tired of looking and would appreciate any help.
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I think that might be illegal in CA.
I remember reading something about Wallet holsters being illegal but I did not save the link But Ill try to find it for you. Until I do or someone knowledgeable shows up feel free to regard this as FUD.
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Old 03-21-2013, 7:15 PM
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Spent the whole day walking around with a PM-9 in my front pocket. It been my go to pocket gun since 2008.
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Getting to the end of my rope trying to find a cc that I can have pocket holstered (wallet size) here in CA.
Anytime I come to a conclusion as to what I want, I check roster and it's not on it.
I guess we have to see a model and check roster before we check fit, quality, performance, value
What I found was; 1. Sig Sauer P290rs, 2.Ruger LC9, both off Roster
The LC9 is on the roster, 6 variations as a matter of fact.
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I pocket carry a Kahr PM 9. Great little gun. In my opinion the Walther PPS is a little to big for pocket carry but is great for IWB carry.
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LC9 is on roster...LCP is easy enough to SSE, and they come up on the boards pretty regularly...NAA revolver in .22mag is on-roster and is one of my favorite carry pieces...

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I got both the sig 238 and 938.. The 938 is just large enough to make pocket carry a bit cumbersome .. But I m sure some could do it.. The 238 is perfect for pocket carry (if you re ok with a .380)..

I guess a diamondback 9mm would be a good option??
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May I suggest the Kahr P380, Sig P238, and Ruger LCP. I found all to be very a very comfortable pocket carry. The S&W J-Frame isn't bad either as a pocket carry option.
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Bear in mind - off-roster guns are still "California legal." The methods to acquire them may be a little convoluted. But you can always try to find one someone is selling as a PPT and then you can avoid the SSE, if you'd prefer.
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On roster, LC-9. I almost bought one with crimson trace grips

One thing about getting an off roster gun. I think some issuing authorities won't let you list that on your LTC. I am not expert there though, but before shelling out the cash you might want to ask
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Get one of these LC's from the roster
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Kahr P380 replaced my PM9 for pocket carry. If you go off-roster get a LCP.

Seriously, I think half the people recommending pistols in this thread must not actually POCKET carry. Its not just a matter of what physically you can stuff into your pocket; you must be able to actually get your HAND in there too to actually draw the pistol from the pocket holster. Certainly jacket pocket carry allows a wider range of options, but pants pocket carry is a different story.
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I want to thank you all for the great options, advice, & knowlege.
Being a Calgun member can sure save alot of time with all the friendly help others have to offer.
I'm going out to look for one of these; 1 Glock 26 G4 9mm, I like the 10 rds & no safety. Actualy this is #1 for my needs if small enough.

2. Taurus TCP 380. I like the fit and value. It comes with 2 mags and a holster/pouch @ $286.

3. Ruger LC9 Truely small well made pistol.

4. Walther PPK/S. I have a PPQ, love it, and I know walther's quality. Price/availability (SSE) is my holdback.

5. Kahr P380. Clean well made little gun. A bit pricey.
I like all the above and just have to get them in my hand before I decide.
I'm so glad I asked you guys. You helped a lot. I'll take any info. you have to offer and post a pic when done.
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How about a 9mm CZ2075 RAMI?

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...NAA revolver in .22mag is on-roster and is one of my favorite carry pieces...
Just wanted to take a second and say, Joe, love the setup!
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I have a CZ 2075 RAMI and a Glock 27. They are both roughly the same size and I would not put them in the pocket pistol category. As mentioned above, a jacket pocket sure, but not pants pocket.

I also have a S&W 442 J-Frame and while it is just at the size where it's getting into pocket carry territory, I still find it to large to carry for that purpose. Even though I have a pocket holster for it, it almost always ends up IWB.

For true front pocket carry, I found a S&W Bodyguard 380 (had to find a PPT as it's not on roster). I would recommend something in this size category if you are going to pocket carry regularly.
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I've PPT'd a Sig P238 and an LCP from this board. Just had to drive a bit, but worth it. LCP is lighter, but the P238 is a single action 1911-ish form factor that is easy to shoot for such a small gun, so that is my preferred. (I find the LCP to be the hardest handgun I own to hit what I'm trying to shoot beyond 7 yards, not crazy difficult at the range, but when seconds count....)
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Careful there; pocket holster - good to go



Wallet holster that allows firing - violates PC 12020

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(4) As used in this section, a "wallet gun" means any firearm
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Let me just say that your problem is not a bad one if you already have a LTC.

For 99% of us, we're never going to be able to concealed carry legally.
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I want to thank you all for the great options, advice, & knowlege.
Being a Calgun member can sure save alot of time with all the friendly help others have to offer.
I'm going out to look for one of these;
2. Taurus TCP 380. I like the fit and value. It comes with 2 mags and a holster/pouch @ $286.


You say that you are in So Cal but you don't say where.

If you are near Ontario I will meet you at a range and let try the Taurus 738 TCP. And, if you want you can even try out it's big brother; the 709 Slim.

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Let me just say that your problem is not a bad one if you already have a LTC.

For 99% of us, we're never going to be able to concealed carry legally.
I got my ccw last year.. Just depends on your county.. Even in more difficult to get counties usually just a longer process but often still obtainable..
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Seecamp 32acp. Its on The roster and Its a true pocket pistol. I carry mine every day.
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Seecamp 32acp. Its on The roster and Its a true pocket pistol. I carry mine every day.
WOW! I could fit that in my change pocket....very small/cool
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Glock26 is a really sweet gun and great for concealed carry. However it's not really a pocket gun and if you're looking for a gen4 specifically you should know that the gen4's are off roster also
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I am looking for a 238 sig scorpion but haven't found a local FFL that is doing SSE on P238's.
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Seecamp's fit the bill of pocket carry, but they're very expensive... Check out Kahr's newest .380 pocket pistol, the CW380. It's the same size as the P380,but about half the price.
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Seecamp 32acp. Its on The roster and Its a true pocket pistol. I carry mine every day.
Do you feel comfortable with the .32 round??
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I have a CZ 2075 RAMI and a Glock 27. They are both roughly the same size and I would not put them in the pocket pistol category. As mentioned above, a jacket pocket sure, but not pants pocket.

I also have a S&W 442 J-Frame and while it is just at the size where it's getting into pocket carry territory, I still find it to large to carry for that purpose. Even though I have a pocket holster for it, it almost always ends up IWB.

For true front pocket carry, I found a S&W Bodyguard 380 (had to find a PPT as it's not on roster). I would recommend something in this size category if you are going to pocket carry regularly.
The bodyguards are amazingly compact even with their integral lasers... I was going to get one SSE.. But sprung for a sig 938 instead.. Then had to move back to NorCal .. If I ever get the chance again I would definitely go for the bodyguard or maybe a db9(questionable reviews on the db)
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Seecamp has no sights...sig p238 is a good choice
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Seecamp's fit the bill of pocket carry, but they're very expensive... Check out Kahr's newest .380 pocket pistol, the CW380. It's the same size as the P380,but about half the price.
I like The seecamp 32. And it The smallest semi auto pistol out there. It not more expensive then The khar. I got mine for 550 after taxes and fees.
I also have a ruger lcp But Its a lot bigger The seecamp.
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I am looking for a 238 sig scorpion but haven't found a local FFL that is doing SSE on P238's.
What part of the state are you in? If you're anywhere near the middle let me know.
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In 32ACP. They go for around $350
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I have a Glock 26, and it is definitely too big for pocket carry.

If you are looking for an on-roster pocket pistol, take a look at the Kahr P380 (as others have said). If you can get one via SSE, the Ruger LCP is supposed to be good, or check out the Diamondback 380. I have one in my pocket as I type this.
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