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Again, im not saying this to discourage anyone. Im just saying that if everyone nationwide takes a break on ammo purchase for a month to let supply catch up ammo can be hoarded at much lower prices. You have to let the market catch back up. The more inventory a store has sitting on its shelves the lower the prices will be.

hahah. sorry you didn't prepare. Personally I still only buy ammo if its a good price, but I like to see people waste their money on overpriced stuff, that way when prices come down they won't have money to buy it and I can.
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How 'bout this. Don't tell people what to do.
With all due respect. Didn't you just do that? OP wrote "don't hoard", you wrote "don't tell".
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1 it’s hard to call it hording when you actually shoot it…
2 I haven’t bought a single box of ammo since the panic
3 We are seeing a huge increase of new gun owners

I’m sure plenty of others on this forum are like me… who have done their shopping, are sitting on a stash, and just riding it out.

And 4. Please don’t reload… because I hate seeing primer and powder shortages lol. It’s a lot harder than it looks and takes too much time… trust me, it’s not worth it. Just keep going to Walmart every day in hopes for more ammo. It will pay off.
1) If you already had it, you are not considered a participant in the current "Shortage"

2) Refer to 1

3) I can guarantee that new gun owners barely shoot. They just bought a gun to say they have one.

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I've seen this rant before lol
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Many of the "new" panic buyers are running up their credit cards to buy this stuff. They will flood the market with it when the bills come due.
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Honestly, I purchase ammo directly from the manufacturer. I get wholesale prices regardless of the environment.
Do you have to purchase them in large quantity to get wholesale price?


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I have only purchased 2 boxes of 22 ammo, since the fit hit the shan!

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Hey Everyone,

Just spoke to one of my friends which of whom works for a reputable ammo manufacturer. Basically, ammo is still being produced in the same numbers as it has historically, however, hoarders are the reason to blame for this "Shortage". People need to refrain from purchasing such large amounts of ammo and storing it as if they are going to go to war. Those people which of whom are hoarding are throwing off and fabricating a shortage that should not exist. Prices are at an all time high and hoarders are promoting this behavior by buying all the ammo they can possibly get their hands on.

This is just a public service announcement to let people know who is really causing this so called shortage. Also, AWB has fallen out of senate and put on the back burner by the democrats. So, no more scare of an AWB for now.

Lets all stop buying everything and let the market settle back down.
I stopped by a gun shop in Prescott right before o got elected the FIRST TIME. He said one of his regular customers was sitting on 40,000 rounds of 22lr back then!
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I walk into Cabelas or LGS.. they have ammo I use.. I just buy it.. what is the problem?
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LoL. Looks like somebody is jealous others had the foresight to stock up.

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So we should all stop buying ammo so we can find ammo to buy? I see.

This is by far the most idiotic thing I've seen here in a long time. By far.
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How 'bout this. Don't tell people what to do.
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Hey Everyone,

Just spoke to one of my friends which of whom works for a reputable ammo manufacturer. Basically, ammo is still being produced in the same numbers as it has historically, however, hoarders are the reason to blame for this "Shortage". People need to refrain from purchasing such large amounts of ammo and storing it as if they are going to go to war. Those people which of whom are hoarding are throwing off and fabricating a shortage that should not exist. Prices are at an all time high and hoarders are promoting this behavior by buying all the ammo they can possibly get their hands on.

This is just a public service announcement to let people know who is really causing this so called shortage. Also, AWB has fallen out of senate and put on the back burner by the democrats. So, no more scare of an AWB for now.

Lets all stop buying everything and let the market settle back down.
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So we should all stop buying ammo so we can find ammo to buy? I see.

This is by far the most idiotic thing I've seen here in a long time. By far.
ok, this was harder than I thought. You can't explain economics to people who don't remotely understand it.
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Well, it's a (somewhat) free country.

Shops are free to price gouge.

I'm free to not spend my money with those shops in the future.
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Well, it's a (somewhat) free country.

Shops are free to price gouge.

I'm free to not spend my money with those shops in the future.
EXACTLY. And they are price gouging because?????
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Don't care what a 67% iTrader says.

Get out of here!

lol....
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Don't care what a 67% iTrader says.

Get out of here!
seems like a well deserved 67%, even yzernie gave him bad feedback. Watever, its a typical new calgunner...unfortunately.
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I walk into Cabelas or LGS.. they have ammo I use.. I just buy it.. what is the problem?
If I walk into my gun store, where the range is, Blazer aluminum case 9mm is $29.99/box... so a 100 round range session including a lane would be $77... The $13.99 I paid at Cabelas three days ago helps that some.
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ok, this was harder than I thought. You can't explain economics to people who don't remotely understand it.
I guess you can't explain keeping ones word to those who don't... example, your feedback lol.
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Not going to happen OP. I finally felt comfortable enough in my ammo stock to take my son shooting this past Sunday. I will stock up (hoard) any chance I get in order to keep shooting and still have plenty of supply in stock.
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Damn, 67% = No Bueno, on both the buy and sell end.... time to start over with a new user name
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Damn, 67% = No Bueno, on both the buy and sell end.... time to start over with a new user name
lol why would I do that. Im not trying to fool anyone. My negative feedback is result of late replys of the other party. Not my fault.
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I completely agree with the OP. I have a minor in economics, and I'm here to tell you that this behavior is irrational and counterproductive. As a collective group, we're acting like a bunch of emotional little kids and we would benefit from taking a deep breath.

Its very simple. If most of us show a little restraint then supply and demand get back in balance after a while, price gouging becomes non productive, and prices stop going up. Kids working at WM stop buying ammo before we even see it because they can no longer resell at a premium.

As for whoever asked if we'd buy and leave some on the shelf, my answer is yes. That's what I did yesterday with 45 acp, and it's what I did last week with 357 sig. I buy only enough to replace what I shoot.

I still have anywhere from 100 to 450 rounds of most calibers I shoot, almost all of it purchased prior to November and supplemented a couple of boxes at a time in an attempt to replace what I've used for practice. I have been forced to cut my practice in half because of the difficulty of finding 9mm, although finally I'm starting to see some again.

Think about it. If you were against guns, what better way than to fabricate false panics and then sit back and laugh as a bunch of grown men run to the store and pay inflated prices for ammo until none is left, while screaming that the sky is falling?
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Again, im not saying this to discourage anyone. Im just saying that if everyone nationwide takes a break on ammo purchase for a month to let supply catch up ammo can be hoarded at much lower prices. You have to let the market catch back up. The more inventory a store has sitting on its shelves the lower the prices will be.
A month? You really think that 1 month is all that is needed to fill all of the retailers and distributors that have been wiped out of all their inventory?

The current problem is not hoarding. That was happening before this Sandy Hook panic. You could not hoard if you wanted to right now. Not only is it almost impossible to find ammo but even when you do there are limits on how many boxes you can buy.

The so called "hoarders" are the smart ones that are still shooting regularly with their pre-panic priced ammo.
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I can guarantee that new gun owners barely shoot. They just bought a gun to say they have one.
I'm a farily new owner. I bought my first 22 rifle late summer 2011, then my first Glock winter 2011. In Winter 2011 through summer 2012, I shot a lot (I guess a lot is a relative term). By the end of summer, I started shooting less not because of a belief in an up coming shortage, but because life. I just got busy with other things. With that said, I still shoot about once a month as unfortunately that is all the time I have for these days.

Becareful about posting "guarantees" unless you have the actual facts to back that up. That statement was just bravado.
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ok, this was harder than I thought. You can't explain economics to people who don't remotely understand it.
Hey Ocog2181, are you one of those people that participates in the "BOYCOTT GAS STATIONS FOR 24 HOURS" things that pops up on Facebook every year?
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lol why would I do that. Im not trying to fool anyone. My negative feedback is result of late replys of the other party. Not my fault.
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I can guarantee that new gun owners barely shoot. They just bought a gun to say they have one.
I can tell you barely shoot. You don't have any ammo. lol.
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Hey Ocog2181, are you one of those people that participates in the "BOYCOTT GAS STATIONS FOR 24 HOURS" things that pops up on Facebook every year?
Not at all. Gas and ammo are two different animals. Gasoline on the grand scheme is not something that can be effectively discussed in a forum. There is an abundance of economics and politics behind such topic. Most of which most people will have a hard time understanding without sufficient education.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll continue buying what I want, when I want. It's worked pretty well for me so far.
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These kind of threads give me an idea. We should institute a "Ammo Hording" day where we all go out and Hoard ammo just to piss off the rest of the eejits that tell us not to Hoard (or as I like to call it, restock my shelves)...
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This is just a public service announcement to let people know who is really causing this so called shortage. Also, AWB has fallen out of senate and put on the back burner by the democrats. So, no more scare of an AWB for now.

Lets all stop buying everything and let the market settle back down.


On a federal level it has, look at some of the bills on our state level including restrictions on ammo and firearms. Nawwww nothing to panic about. I dont agree with the prices on ammo and I cant but anymore 556 because I refuse to pay a $1 a round but if people are buying it, then they are buying it.
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What an awesome thread... full of nonsense. So glad in all your wisdom you see it fit to give others instruction on how to bring the ammo economy back around. How about I give you the same advice and YOU stop buying ammo completely seeing I use it in the course of my job so what I need it for is more important than what you need it for.

Someone said Buy Cheap,Stock Deep... I say "out of you - not a peep"

This will only come back to a normal price when we get these morons out of office.


Seeing you are so well versed in economy specifics.. can you tell us how to fix the 4 dollar + gas seeing how no other aspects of production has changed...
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I can't hoard it. I can only buy a month's worth at a time and shoot it up in the same month I buy it.
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