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Old 03-04-2013, 11:02 PM
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Sorry Guys - Just read it today -

Nevada will no longer recognize Arizona LTC - which is a bummer - I got AZ just for Nevada carry -

Looks like I'm stopping in at the local sheriff next trip up to Reno

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Old 03-04-2013, 11:40 PM
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Dammit! I just started the process so NV would be covered. Now it looks like a NV class is in order.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:41 PM
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Shouldn't the Utah license cover NV?
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Shouldn't the Utah license cover NV?
Negative, NV and Utah do not have reciprocity according to what I've read. Seems like the easiest way is a trip to Boomtown to take a class at Cabela's.
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Shouldn't the Utah license cover NV?
NV dropped UT and FL in 2009

UT was dropped because they do not require live fire qualification, which is needed to meet NV's standards.
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In regards to NV dropping AZ...

Basically why it happened:
1. When NV approved AZ, they did so after reviewing AZ's 2010 CCW permit issuance policy (which required live fire qualifications).
2. When AZ went constitutional carry, it changed AZ's CCW permit issuance policy (so now you can get one without needing to do live fire qualifications).
3. NV laws require states they honor to have equal or stricter standards then NV and NV requires live fire qualifications.
4. Early this year, some Las Vegas area firearm trainers informed NV DPS and NVSCA that AZ's CCW permit issuance policy had changed to be less than NV's standard. This caused NVSCA to remove AZ from the list of states that NV honors.

It is speculated that certain Las Vegas area firearm trainers tattled about the AZ changes due to loss of revenue from NV CCW training.
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Here's a slight ray of hope in all this gloom...

NV SB137 is NV's constitutional carry bill and it is currently in the NV Senate's Judiciary Committee.
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Say it ain't so! I was about to do the same as others before me and do the AZ to NV route as well.
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What would you suggest as the easiest way to get Nevada certified now?
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What would you suggest as the easiest way to get Nevada certified now?
I found 1 day classes in Vegas, Henderson, and Laughlin. Making some calls today. I expect a wait time to get in with this news.
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I found 1 day classes in Vegas, Henderson, and Laughlin. Making some calls today. I expect a wait time to get in with this news.
Thanks for the tips!
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I'm taking the NV CCW class in Vegas at Bass Pro Shops, it's offered by Tacticalwest every weekend.

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I'm taking the NV CCW class in Vegas at Bass Pro Shops, it's offered by Tacticalwest every weekend.

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What's the cost of the cabellas or bass pro class?
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that blows...

i have a ca and az ccw, can someone link me to the intructions on how to get a nv ccw? thanks (i live in nor cal, would prefer class near reno)
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Well this sux! Seems I wasted my time and money getting a AZ permit. I go to NV maybe once a year so it's hardly worth the effort to make a special trip just to get a CCW just so I can carry that one time a year.
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So, now we're up to what? 4 CCW licenses or is it 5 in order to cover all the states?
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Man I hate to Open Carry, but they're going to make me do it again.
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That help answer the question?
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So, now we're up to what? 4 CCW licenses or is it 5 in order to cover all the states?
Technically, you can't get licensed to carry in all states.

Colorado does not honor any "non-resident" CCWs. They also do not honor the CA LTC. So a CA resident cannot CCW in CO.

You would actually need 15 licenses to cover the 49 other states (excluding the Constitutional Carry states).

You would need these: FL, UT, AZ, CA, CT, HI, IL, IA, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI and ME.

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Technically, you can't get licensed to carry in all states.

Colorado does not honor any "non-resident" CCWs. They also do not honor the CA LTC. So a CA resident cannot CCW in CO.

You would actually need 15 licenses to cover the 49 other states (excluding the Constitutional Carry states).

You would need these: FL, UT, AZ, CA, CT, HI, IL, IA, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI and ME.

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Technically, you can't get licensed to carry in all states.

Colorado does not honor any "non-resident" CCWs. They also do not honor the CA LTC. So a CA resident cannot CCW in CO.

You would actually need 15 licenses to cover the 49 other states (excluding the Constitutional Carry states).

You would need these: FL, UT, AZ, CA, CT, HI, IL, IA, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI and ME.

Good luck with that.
CO is as bad as CA and yeah, I forgot about all this New England states where it's nearly impossible.
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Frontsite has classes for the NV permit offered. I recall doing that a while back.

As for those various states that don't worry about my family and my safety... I will do my best to avoid travel and tourism there.
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Well that's just dandy.

Not sure I understand why NV does not accept CA,, we have live fire qual.



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Frontsite has classes for the NV permit offered. I recall doing that a while back.

As for those various states that don't worry about my family and my safety... I will do my best to avoid travel and tourism there.

So no visiting CA. lol
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Well that's just dandy.

Not sure I understand why NV does not accept CA,, we have live fire qual.



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I think it is because we don't recognize theirs, or anyone else's.
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Hahaha... Like everyone else, that was my only reason for getting AZ! I can respect their reasoning for the change.
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FWIW, I'm taking this class on 4/13/13 for AZ CCW

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Nevada does not prohibit the concealed carry of loaded handguns in cars, still. Just can't carry into the stop 'n' puke.
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that blows...

i have a ca and az ccw, can someone link me to the intructions on how to get a nv ccw? thanks (i live in nor cal, would prefer class near reno)
Seems that some of their info is now out of date, but.......
http://www.washoesheriff.com/sub.php...ns-permits-ccw
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This makes no sense, when I was applying for my AZ CCW in June/July of 2011 and spoke with the lady at the DPS CCW division on the phone, I asked if my hunter safety certificate would work and she specifically stated that I must have live fire training. If my hunters safety cert did not have live fire training, it would not suffice.

I then completed live fire training with another CGN member here in Artesia to get a live fire training certificate to send in with my completed application, money order, and fingerprint cards.

I think there may be something else going on.
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I got my NV last year. For all of you considering it, keep in mind that the application must be filed in the same county that training took place. Livescan fingerprinting and applications are only accepted M-F (at least in Washoe).

I had to make two trips. Class on Friday/Saturday and I had to work Monday so I had to wait about 3 months before my schedule opened up. Permit is good for 5 years and there are special considerations if you plan to carry in Vegas.
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Wait... You can get a CCW in a state you don't live in?

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Nevada does not prohibit the concealed carry of loaded handguns in cars, still. Just can't carry into the stop 'n' puke.
Except in the city of North Las Vegas (or Downtown vegas)
Not 100% sure so someone should chime in. Too lazy to look it up right now.
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i have a ca and az ccw, can someone link me to the intructions on how to get a nv ccw? thanks (i live in nor cal, would prefer class near reno)
I took 2 day class from Nevada Firearms Academy. http://nevadafirearmsacademy.com/

It was a 2-4 hour classroom session and about 6 hours of live fire drills. You will be a better marksman when you leave. I would recommend the class.
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Except in the city of North Las Vegas (or Downtown vegas)
Not 100% sure so someone should chime in. Too lazy to look it up right now.
If you carry in Vegas, look it up before you go. They are always tweaking the how and where. And if I remember right, if you are in town over 72 hours you must report your presence and length of stay to the Sheriff.
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Except in the city of North Las Vegas (or Downtown vegas)
Not 100% sure so someone should chime in. Too lazy to look it up right now.
Sounds right. Pre 1968 city laws grandfathered in at the time of state preemption.
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Wait... You can get a CCW in a state you don't live in?
Yes, several states trust you more than California does. They are called non-resident permits. Florida and Utah are the most common, but Nevada, Arizona, and several others also offer them.

They allow you to carry in many states through reciprocity (meaning if State X honors State Z's LTC, then State Z will honor State X's). A California permit is only good in California, because our state does not honor anyone else's.

There are a handful of states that honor reciprocity only if you are a resident permit. For example, you can't carry in Florida on a Utah non-resident permit, but you could if you have a Utah resident permit (despite, ironically, that Florida issues non-resident permits).
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It was pretty obvious to me from the moment NV started accepting AZ permits that they would eventually wise up to the differences between AZ's permitting policies and their law. I'm sort of surprised it took this long.
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