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Old 02-20-2013, 2:10 PM
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A bit off-topic, but why are people saying it's scary that someone else was camping near the woman whose husband won't go with her? That didn't make sense to me.
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Depends on where I go but if it's a place I normally hit up that has very little bear and reserved camping, I'll take my Glock 9mm for people predators...if I'm headed out to the National Forest and doing some desolation camping, I'll take my 1911 in .45 and my Winchester model 97 shotgun.
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I am usually in bear country - so, I sprinkle food around my friends tent so I stay safe
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There have been plenty of problems in NorCal Sierra Mts. so....... I always carry my 357 Colt Python 4". I oil it good and have managed to keep it nice since I bought it new in 1976. Heavy but worth it. Shoots like a rifle.
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I am usually in bear country - so, I sprinkle food around my friends tent so I stay safe
Now that's funny! Almost as good as what happend to a guy in our group a few years ago. We 4-wheeled upto a remote lake and the next morning when he crawled out of his tent, he was pissed! Another camper/hunter had hung a deer from the tree next to his tent.


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ahhh, is that why my wife wanted to go up a little higher off the creek. She
said something about not to go close to water at night, because
there is alot of demons close to water at night. I was a good 25 feet away,
but next time i'll be sure to pack some sea salt 12gauge rounds.

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You made some good points, the 357magnum is what i keep in my car all the time so i just decided to leave it there, chrono shows a huge difference
even in a short barrel when comparing 38 special +p and 357mag defensive rounds. The remington wingmaster is my home defense
setup, i've shot slugs out the thing with great results. I don't get maximum velocity, but it's well over the firepower i need to stop a bear. I took that shotgun instead of my
remington 1100, or my mossberg 500 both with two barrels, long and short, because i didn't want to lug the extra weight.
The pistol grip on the remington wingmaster is perfect for me, the vertical grips put too much kick on my hand, and doesn't spread
recoil evenly. with the speed pistol grip, i can shoot slugs all day and it will not hurt my hands.

Although next time i go out camping, i'm just thinking about just taking my glock 17, or my Xd45.
Don't listen to me, go with your crono. I was concerned about the absolute minimum barrel length on the shotgun because of legal problems rather than ballistics. But I can see that you have a rather small tent. Maneuvering much more shotgun than that in there would be problematic.

Myself? I use mostly my Mossy 500 with factory 18X1/4 inch barrel with a shortened wood buttstock, with slugs and 00 buckshot, a S&W mod 64, 4" .357 Magnum, with 160 Grn. Jacketed flat points.
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Appagohm, looks like a lot of fun.

When I'm hiking/camping with my girlfriend I don't take anything because I can out run her. If I'm alone or with my dog I carry a handgun because I can't out run my dog. (You don't have to out run the bear, just the slowest person in your party )

Seriously though, I always carry something. I used to carry a 44 mag revolver. After carrying that heavy thing on long multi-day hikes through wilderness areas I bought the lightest weight magnum I could find, a LCR in .357. I now carry my LCR .357 almost exclusively.

Now because pics make any thread better, the too heavy .44 and a pic from last weekend on top of Topa Topa. The dog's water bowl froze that night.






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but if i'm really camping i'll have my sr9, a 12g and my AR...
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WTF do you need a gun for to go camping?
Why does anybody need a gun, ever, for any reason?

Why does anybody need 30 round mags to shoot a deer?

Why do some people think they should determine the NEEDS or RIGHTS of others?

These questions (and yours) are all equally puzzling...

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While I haven't been camping in a long time, I do day-hikes at the local National Monument and National Park, and carry an SR9c in my CamelBack because it makes me feel better, knowing that when I'm 10+ miles and several hours away from any help whatsoever, I can help myself.

Lots of mountain lions and dope farmers out there.
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I'm just curious, why is there a roll of toilet paper in the picture of you and your wife?
For when i need to wipe, i love the outdoors, but don't like the feeling of dry leaves on my butt. We burn our wipings in the campfire, and dig a hole and cover it up for our number 2's.

ahhh.. ic where you went with that. lol.

Becaue this was only a 3day camp, i didn't bring my portable shower(just a bag with a hose and showerhead)
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WTF do you need a gun for to go camping?
Drugged out potheads, crackheads, and tweakers.
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In case the fish don't want to cooperate attaching themselves to my hook?
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The bears and mountain lions come to my house. I came face to face with a black bear stealing my garbage one time. I went and bought a .44mag Abilene two days later. A .45acp won't even break through the fat layer on a bear, just make it REALLY pissed off. I keep PDX12 defenders on my 12ga also.
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Now that's funny! Almost as good as what happend to a guy in our group a few years ago. We 4-wheeled upto a remote lake and the next morning when he crawled out of his tent, he was pissed! Another camper/hunter had hung a deer from the tree next to his tent.


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We really did it - except we did it before he woke up (about 7 a.m). The night before, he left food in the spare cooler (just for ice), next to his tent. It was torn open by a bear and it took the marshmallows. Anyway, we did it to screw with him and teach him a lesson about putting all the food back in the trucks and not leave things around the campsite or tents. It was funny watching him freak out when he saw all the food around his tent. Lesson learned...
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We really did it - except we did it before he woke up (about 7 a.m). The night before, he left food in the spare cooler (just for ice), next to his tent. It was torn open by a bear and it took the marshmallows. Anyway, we did it to screw with him and teach him a lesson about putting all the food back in the trucks and not leave things around the campsite or tents. It was funny watching him freak out when he saw all the food around his tent. Lesson learned...
I stayed a Leo Carillo a few years back, and some huge group of doucewads decided letting fireworks off all night was a good idea. Next morning as I'm leaving, I dropped a few grapes I was eating for breakfast and the birds attacked it. I see they left the sliding windows open on the back of most of thier bro-dozers, so I tossed a handful in each truck, waited til they were chock full of seagulls, then shut the windows and trapped the seagulls in the trucks. Then, as I was driving off, threw a handful inside the tent they were all in. The gulls flying in the tent looked like a scene from "The Birds".
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Why have a gun you may ask? Ask the family of this 42 y/o man and his 11 y/o nephew who were shot and killed in Morro Bay back in 2001.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2010/04...os-killed.html
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And another reason:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Je..._double-murder

(although these 2 were probably shot while asleep, and likely didn't have a chance to defend themselves)
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Dont camp much do ya?
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Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.

The first two chambers are full of snake shot because that's what I'm most likely to see. I the threat is bigger and I have time, I can quickly swap those out. If it's bigger and I DON'T have time, I can pop them off quickly to see if I can scare the big bad off. With four rounds remaining to take care of business if the intruder doesn't take the hint.

If it's a car camping trip (as opposed to backpacking) I also tote along my Marlin 1894 lever gun in .44 mag. One box of ammo is all I need to keep both guns fed. I do go camping in some remote spots, so I made sure to put the Redhawk on my carry permit. It raises a few eyebrows at ccw renewal time, but so far I've qualified with it no problems. Sure keeps me hoppin' on the reloads though. I don't think there's anything in CA that won't take .44 mag as an invitation to quit fighting.
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Why does anybody need a gun, ever, for any reason?

Why does anybody need 30 round mags to shoot a deer?

Why do some people think they should determine the NEEDS or RIGHTS of others?

These questions (and yours) are all equally puzzling...

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While I haven't been camping in a long time, I do day-hikes at the local National Monument and National Park, and carry an SR9c in my CamelBack because it makes me feel better, knowing that when I'm 10+ miles and several hours away from any help whatsoever, I can help myself.

Lots of mountain lions and dope farmers out there.
I'm sorry you felt hurt by my comments - I know its real scary out there in the woods. Why don't you educate me in the need for personal protection while camping. Maybe cite some statistics on the murder or rapes that occur while camping - or muggings or thefts?

You're absolutely right - its your right to take a gun camping if you want. But its my right to tell you how ridiculous it is to be so insecure that you need that piece of steel (or ploy) to make you feel safe from the big bad wilderness. Glad you think your SR9c is going to help you light a fire or get some water. I doubt your camping experiences have ever included anything more than a few steps from the moho.
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Why have a gun you may ask? Ask the family of this 42 y/o man and his 11 y/o nephew who were shot and killed in Morro Bay back in 2001.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2010/04...os-killed.html

Stephen Wells and his nephew, Jerry Rios, were killed at a Morro Bay campsite in a dispute over a parking space.


Wow - thats the best you could do with an example? BTW Morrow bay is not camping.
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I'm sorry you felt hurt by my comments - I know its real scary out there in the woods. Why don't you educate me in the need for personal protection while camping. Maybe cite some statistics on the murder or rapes that occur while camping - or muggings or thefts?

You're absolutely right - its your right to take a gun camping if you want. But its my right to tell you how ridiculous it is to be so insecure that you need that piece of steel (or ploy) to make you feel safe from the big bad wilderness. Glad you think your SR9c is going to help you light a fire or get some water. I doubt your camping experiences have ever included anything more than a few steps from the moho.
Because killers and violent predators NEVER use campgrounds as a hunting grounds.....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Je..._double-murder

(although these 2 were probably shot while asleep, and likely didn't have a chance to defend themselves)

Camping is prohibited on the rural stretch of beach where Cutshall and Allen met their deaths, but drifters and hitchhikers on State Route 1 (which runs alongside Fish Head Beach) are known to use the oceanfront site for sleeping.


So they were camping on skid-row...
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Why would my nationality make this spot not ideal? I was born and raise in America, went camping since i was very young, Also father is a military man as well raise under his roof, with his teachings. Now in my early 30s married and still enjoying the outdoors.

Bug off and sun screen is a must, but it won't stop a bear/mountain lion from wanting to eat you.
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Not really interested in joining the argument, but from personal experience I was sure glad we had guns on one camping trip years ago. I've been camping for a few decades with only one experience, where I feared for my life. If we weren't armed I'm nearly certain we would have been statistics on this forum. Don't mind what I was wearing because it got a little old in the original thread. My buddy who was their also chimed in to verify that this actually happened. Statistically we probably will never need a gun while out in the woods, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

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My wife and I often camp near the Kern river.
We've seen both large bear tracks (and poop), and cougar tracks on the banks, and near our campsite.
If I could get bill_k_lopez to come and protect us with his macho bravado, I guess I wouldn't need to bring this...
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lol...i camp in an RV when i go to the desert sometimes....
but i prefer the true essence of camping...in a tent, and not having to yell across the fire due to the obnoxiously loud generator your a$shat freind is running nonstop the entire weekend
Thats why honda generators are nice.And along with good battery bank use the daytime hours to recharge the battery and night time for the quiet.
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Guys, they are black bears, they aren't going to hurt you, leave them be. If they do come around, you are doing something stupid.

Now, of it's bear season, and you have a tag, blast away.
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Spending ones entire life completely uninformed is no way to live.....
hey hey now those killers and violent predators do obey the gun free zones .... they only stay in the city and they also NEVER go into the forest or go camping. we also shouldn't EVER take our guns with us anywhere they should just stay in the house locked up tight. You know those "piece of steel (or ploy) to make you feel safe from the big bad wilderness" well yea... keep them at home, b/c i can use my big brain for protection.

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Guys, they are black bears, they aren't going to hurt you, leave them be. If they do come around, you are doing something stupid.
That's what they say about big kitty's.....until, I call BS and aint gonna risk being killed or hurt badly by such animals.....Most would probably run off, but their is a small chance that may not happen and crapola can arise fast if one is not prepared. Believing that saying is the same as believing that what are the odds of you getting robbed at gun point in the parking lot of wallymart in broad daylight with witnesses everywhere.
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I'm sorry you felt hurt by my comments - I know its real scary out there in the woods. Why don't you educate me in the need for personal protection while camping. Maybe cite some statistics on the murder or rapes that occur while camping - or muggings or thefts?

You're absolutely right - its your right to take a gun camping if you want. But its my right to tell you how ridiculous it is to be so insecure that you need that piece of steel (or ploy) to make you feel safe from the big bad wilderness. Glad you think your SR9c is going to help you light a fire or get some water. I doubt your camping experiences have ever included anything more than a few steps from the moho.
Four legged bears, two legged snakes. What is the difference. If your wife is chewed up or raped, what will you tell her? I was just trying to be a responsible pacifist? You and your little dog too!
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I'm sorry you felt hurt by my comments - I know its real scary out there in the woods. Why don't you educate me in the need for personal protection while camping. Maybe cite some statistics on the murder or rapes that occur while camping - or muggings or thefts?

You're absolutely right - its your right to take a gun camping if you want. But its my right to tell you how ridiculous it is to be so insecure that you need that piece of steel (or ploy) to make you feel safe from the big bad wilderness. Glad you think your SR9c is going to help you light a fire or get some water. I doubt your camping experiences have ever included anything more than a few steps from the moho.

Something tells me this fella likes to camp on those paid campgrounds with running water, showers, toilets, cell phone coverage, paid wifi services and 100 other campers within 100yd radius.......Any smart real camper will understand the need for self defense especially in present day. Only the sheeple type campers will say otherwise. Why I say this. example: I have a few sheeple relatives that will not do any real camping or camping at all. When they do go 'camping', they either go to the paid campgrounds as I stated above or their camping is in rented cabins next to the highway. Ofcourse, none of them is armed or owns any firearms and is afraid to death of them.
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Stephen Wells and his nephew, Jerry Rios, were killed at a Morro Bay campsite in a dispute over a parking space.


Wow - thats the best you could do with an example? BTW Morrow bay is not camping.
Something tells me that if you get shot while camping it's more because you are a dick and not so much random encounter.
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Stephen Wells and his nephew, Jerry Rios, were killed at a Morro Bay campsite in a dispute over a parking space.


Wow - thats the best you could do with an example? BTW Morrow bay is not camping.
You asked for an example, he gave you one. Instead of thanking him, you launch into a sarcastic tirade?

You lost that round, Bill.
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Something tells me this fella likes to camp on those paid campgrounds with running water, showers, toilets, cell phone coverage, paid wifi services and 100 other campers within 100yd radius.......Any smart real camper will understand the need for self defense especially in present day. Only the sheeple type campers will say otherwise. Why I say this. example: I have a few sheeple relatives that will not do any real camping or camping at all. When they do go 'camping', they either go to the paid campgrounds as I stated above or their camping is in rented cabins next to the highway. Ofcourse, none of them is armed or owns any firearms and is afraid to death of them.
Yep - you got me, measured it all up from the total sum of three posts that lead to your intimate knowledge of me.

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Any smart real camper will understand the need for self defense especially in present day.

Mountain Lion? (Cougar, Puma, Panther)
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/lion/attacks.html

15 verified attacks on people in California SINCE 1890, yeah 15 attacks in 123 years - I'm really scared of a ML attack while camping.

Bears?
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/be...incidents.html

12 attacks since 1980 no deaths most involved people who had food on them (backpacks) or left food out. 12 attacks in 33 years - not too worried about those statistics either - and bear spray is a lot cheaper and lighter to carry.

What else are you afraid of?
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This guy comes to mind, some kids went camping in the desert near Mojave.

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