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Old 02-18-2013, 8:58 PM
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Question Competitive pistol shooting with magazine limits

I'm stationed in Colorado. I was looking into getting started in production-class competitive pistol shooting. As you may have heard, the state government here is fixing to limit magazine capacity to 15 rounds. It sounds like nothing will be grandfathered in.

So, this leaves me in an odd pickle with lots of questions. How do you guys do it? Should I bother buying a gun that comes with 17-rnd mags? Are there plastic blocks that I can just throw into the mag and make it legal?

Are the competition rules in CA altered, to allow for more magazines to be used in each event?
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Old 02-18-2013, 9:24 PM
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USPSA production only allows 10rd mags, IIRC.
http://www.uspsa.org/rules/14th_Ed_U..._Rules.11.html

For USPSA you dont need to block the mag just only load to 10.

Since when are quantity of mags limited?
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Old 02-18-2013, 9:30 PM
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I'm trying to find a gun that can be used in any of the major competitions. (ie, one that appears on all of the approved "production" lists and also fits in the IDPA box.)

EDIT: I'm not completely familiar with all of the matches' rules. Wasn't sure if there was a match that typically uses a certain number of mags in free states, but bumps it up for states like CA.

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Glock 34?

IIRC, stage round limit is 32 for USPSA. Mag count doesnt matter.
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There is no magazine limit for any class. Carry 3 or carry 25 on your waist, whatever you can fit. As long as you follow the round count and carry rules (USPSA has a specific rule regarding how far "forward" you can carry magazines on your belt, for example.).

If you're looking for an all around "production" gun. Glock or M&P fits the bill. And for single stack, a 1911 will always fit the bill, too.
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Old 02-18-2013, 9:51 PM
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I'm almost certain the Glock 34 does fit in the box, but it is explicitly not allowed in IPSC production. http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php

Don't get me wrong, I doubt I'll take part in each type of competition. It's just that being active duty, I could get stationed somewhere where my only option is just one. I don't want to limit my options.
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Glock 17?

With any game, pick your gear and then find a division or pick a division and chose your gear.
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I wouldn't worry about IPSC rules, you'd be hard pressed to find a match in the USA. We follow the USPSA rules. If you use the Glock, it also opens up the GSSF matches.
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I'm almost certain the Glock 34 does fit in the box, but it is explicitly not allowed in IPSC production. http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php

Don't get me wrong, I doubt I'll take part in each type of competition. It's just that being active duty, I could get stationed somewhere where my only option is just one. I don't want to limit my options.
Wrong org. Think USA.
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Wrong org. Think USA.
Yup, G34 is the Gold Standard for Production division here in the USA.

http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-rules.php
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I'm almost certain the Glock 34 does fit in the box, but it is explicitly not allowed in IPSC production. http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php

Don't get me wrong, I doubt I'll take part in each type of competition. It's just that being active duty, I could get stationed somewhere where my only option is just one. I don't want to limit my options.
Well the IPSC rules will work for you in get stationed outside of the US, but while you are here we run USPSA rules.
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I'm almost certain the Glock 34 does fit in the box, but it is explicitly not allowed in IPSC production. http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php

Don't get me wrong, I doubt I'll take part in each type of competition. It's just that being active duty, I could get stationed somewhere where my only option is just one. I don't want to limit my options.
IPSC is the global governing body, but USPSA is the American governing body. The Glock 34 is perfectly legal in USPSA Production Division.

The three guns I would look at, if I were you, are (and not in any order of preference):

S&W M&P Pro (5" model) in 9mm
Springfield XDm 5.25" Competition in 9mm
Glock 34

All of these guns are perfectly usable in USPSA, IDPA, and Steel Challenge. Pick the one that you like the most, and then find a nearby club that offers the type of shooting you want to do.
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