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Old 11-27-2013, 10:57 PM
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The number one reason that 90 percent of applicants are disqualified is because of lying. It is mainly for lying about past drug use. We understand that, statistically, 90 percent of todays kids have experimented with marijuana. We know that and expect it. As long as you have not smoked it in the last three years and you were not addicted to it previously, then you should be ok. If you have driven after drinking one beer, yes you were under the influence but you did not drive drunk. Be honest and explain what happened and once again you should be ok. If you drove several times drunk (drank a lot over the legal limit) then that would show poor judgement on your part. The difference is when you last did it and what have you done since you last made that poor choice. If you know you have done stuff in the last three years then you may not want to continue the process at this time. But if you did it in your past and are honest about it, the department will assess if you have made changes and they are willing to give you a chance. Once again, I cannot stress how important it is for you to be honest because it all comes out in the polygraph or background. If we find it and you didn't tell us, you are DQ'ed for life as a lier. If you are honest and you smoked weed two years ago, you will get DQQ'ed for drug use but you get the chance to reapply after the three year line has come.

Medically, same difference, the psych will ask you about your history. If you are honest, they will asses you and make a decision. If you lie and we find it, you are DQ'ed for life.

Good luck

Congratulations to the 28 graduates of JCOC class 20013-03. I'm sorry I could not make the graduation but I will stop in before you all are done. Good luck in your assignments. You made it past the academy challenge, but you have many more challenges ahead. good luck and welcome to the the family.

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Old 11-28-2013, 9:57 AM
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Capt. Mike
Is the academy for dpo2 field still for dec. 2. If so when would the next dpo 2 field academy start. Thanks again.
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:42 AM
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Yes, it starts on monday. I believe the next one is march 24.
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Old 11-29-2013, 7:39 PM
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Congratulations to the 28 graduates of JCOC class 20013-03. I'm sorry I could not make the graduation but I will stop in before you all are done. Good luck in your assignments. You made it past the academy challenge, but you have many more challenges ahead. good luck and welcome to the the family.
Thank you CaptMike. The "Great 28" made it. It was not an easy journey. We are proud to have graduated.

We are all very thankful to the wonderful Instructors at the JCOC Academy. You DPO IIs will be in good hands. I wish you all the best.

We have closed our first chapter in our journey into the department but we have a long road ahead. I look forward to it. I hope all my brothers and sisters do well. Stay safe everybody.
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Old 11-29-2013, 8:35 PM
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Maybe this should be in the commercial sales /recruiting forum?? Maybe a paid advertiser?
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Old 11-29-2013, 8:55 PM
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Easy, I'm happy for you to have made it all the way through the long and difficult hiring process and then making it through the academy. I told your class on the first day, not everyone was going to be there at the end. I'm glad that you are one of the few. You have a whole lot of challenges still ahead of you. Take what you learned and build from it. You are well on your way.

Freon, I post these here to give folks some info on open law enforcement jobs and to give them information to help them along the process. I don't get paid for recruiting, I'm just trying to help others join the law enforcement family. If a moderator would prefer that I stop, they just need to say the word and I will cease all future postings.

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Old 11-30-2013, 3:44 PM
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I do appreciate that but you have 75 posts on ththis thread. Seems like a recruitment thread...
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Old 12-03-2013, 6:03 PM
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CaptMike,

Will there be more GSNs & DSOs being promoted in the near future or will they be waiting until February?

Currently in my training we have 5 DSOs who were promoted. I know some of them from my time spent at Los Padrinos. How are these promoted individuals being selected? Are they being selected randomly? I know other DSOs with more seniority still waiting to get word.

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Old 12-03-2013, 7:11 PM
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Old 12-08-2013, 2:04 AM
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Hello CaptMike (et al),

I received my background packet about a week and a half ago, I have completely filled out my Personal History Statement (PHS), meet with my investigator, and turned in all of my verifying documents (transcripts, credit report, DMV H-6 driving record, selective services, etc.). I was fingerprinted, had my social media website (Facebook) looked at by my investigator, and I filled out the questionnaire. My investigator informed me the backgrounds are moving at an accelerated pace.

Many of my contacts in the Los Angeles County Probation Department have suggested while I am going through this process, I should visit a camp to see what the DPO I position is truly about. I know what the job description states and believe it is an accurate depiction of the job duties, but there is noting like seeing things first hand.

Sir, would you concur with this and if so, would you have a suggestion as to what camp I should attempt to observe?

Note to prospective candidates: Please be aware that when you make it to background, one of the first things your investigator will do, is go to their computer, ask you to sign onto any social media website you stated you belong to, and they will scrutinize your page. when this happened to me, it caught me off guard. However, I listed I belong to Facebook, and when I signed on, my investigator scanned my homepage. Although I was caught off guard, I was not worried because I do not have anything risqué or raunchy (nor illegal) listed on my page. So, a word to the wise make sure your social network pages are legit!
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Old 12-08-2013, 5:28 AM
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Thats a great suggestion. As long as you have your banding letter to show them that you are in the process, you should be able to set up a visit. Just call the camp closest to you and ask to speak to the Supervisor. Let them know that you are in the process and that you have your banding letter from the department to proove it. Put in your request for a visit and if they are able, they will set one up for you. It really doesn't matter which camp you want to visit because they are all basically the same. I think the county paid for one set of plans and then reused them at all the camps. The only exception is the Challenger Memorial youth center in Lancaster. It was built in the 90's so the county bought a new set of plans. Otherwise all the other camps are the same design. Good luck.
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Old 12-08-2013, 9:07 AM
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Thats a great suggestion. As long as you have your banding letter to show them that you are in the process, you should be able to set up a visit. Just call the camp closest to you and ask to speak to the Supervisor. Let them know that you are in the process and that you have your banding letter from the department to proove it. Put in your request for a visit and if they are able, they will set one up for you. It really doesn't matter which camp you want to visit because they are all basically the same. I think the county paid for one set of plans and then reused them at all the camps. The only exception is the Challenger Memorial youth center in Lancaster. It was built in the 90's so the county bought a new set of plans. Otherwise all the other camps are the same design. Good luck.
Thanks CaptMike,

Yes, I was planning on bringing verifying documents to the scheduled visit (for sure).

Good luck to everyone going through the process!
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:40 PM
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flyguyy: I am at the same stage you are in the process. I just turned in my packet and met with the investigator last week so hopefully we can keep in touch here and assist one another if possible. Also thanks for the suggestion about visiting a camp. Its' a great idea for getting a feel of what camp life is like. I have previously done an internship at Camp Rocky, but am now thinking of paying a visit to Challenger since I live in Lancaster. If you set something up let me know how it went.

Have you heard any word on how long it may take to have our poly and other steps scheduled?
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Old 12-12-2013, 6:47 PM
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flyguyy: I am at the same stage you are in the process. I just turned in my packet and met with the investigator last week so hopefully we can keep in touch here and assist one another if possible. Also thanks for the suggestion about visiting a camp. Its' a great idea for getting a feel of what camp life is like. I have previously done an internship at Camp Rocky, but am now thinking of paying a visit to Challenger since I live in Lancaster. If you set something up let me know how it went.

Have you heard any word on how long it may take to have our poly and other steps scheduled?
Hello dj1915,

Congratulations on making it to background. I would love to "keep in touch" with you during the process. I will assist you in anyway I can. You are welcome for the suggestion, but like I said in my previous post, my Probation Department contacts suggested it to me.

When I called Camp Paige and asked to speak to the director, I was told he was not in. I then informed the person who answered my call why I was calling (to set up a visit). I informed him I am a prospective candidate currently in background, and he told me I had to go through headquarters (Downey) and get clearance. However, I have yet to contact my investigator to get the clearance. If anyone can confirm if this is the proper procedure (before I bother my investigator), I would sincerely appreciate it.

I do not know "exactly" how long it takes for the completion of the investigation. However, when I met with my BI, she said the background investigation department was moving at a very fast pace. Now, what that equates to, I do not know.

dj1915, best of luck to you, and please keep in touch. Any insight you can give me would be much appreciated and well received.

Have a good one!
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:45 AM
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flyguyy: Sorry for taking so long to respond. So do you know if any of your references have been contacted? I believe the next scheduled academy is in early February so I'm hoping there is a chance we can make it into that one if all goes well.
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I turned in my background packet this week too, but my background investigator told me that the next academy will be on May next year.
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Old 12-19-2013, 8:01 AM
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southernboy: thanks for that info. I had heard the next one was February 2nd. This May academy your referring to is for DPO 1 correct?
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Old 12-19-2013, 9:30 AM
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The next academy for GSN, DSO, DPO I and DPO II RT Starts on february 3. The following class is on May 12. These are the training dates. The hire dates will fall on the friday before training begins. Good luck.
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Old 12-19-2013, 2:31 PM
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Yes, it is for DPO I. Have anyone started taking the polygraph test yet?
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Old 12-19-2013, 3:13 PM
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CaptMike: by hiring dates do you mean we would be notified of our acceptance into the academy the Friday before the academy begins?

I also sent you a private message I hope you can get to it soon, thanks!
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Old 12-19-2013, 3:15 PM
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Southernboy: I have yet to be scheduled for the poly and have not had my references contacted.
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Old 12-19-2013, 4:58 PM
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You would be notified usually at least two weeks before the hire date. Sometimes they cut it right to the wire and may call someone on Thursday to report on friday to HQ.
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CaptainMike, Do you know what are learning domains that will be covered in the academy?
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Old 12-19-2013, 9:24 PM
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The curriculum is on the california BSCC STC website. You need to look for juvenile corrections officer core.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:42 AM
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Capt Mike,
Which curriculum would it be:Juvenile Corrections officer or Probation Officer? Like I previously stated I have completed all the exams for the DPO 1 process and I'am now waiting to hear if I get accepted into an academy next year, good luck to all this process is very lengthy.
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Old 12-23-2013, 2:45 PM
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flyguyy: Sorry for taking so long to respond. So do you know if any of your references have been contacted? I believe the next scheduled academy is in early February so I'm hoping there is a chance we can make it into that one if all goes well.

dj1915,

I also apologize for the late reply. To answer your question, I do not believe any of my references have been contacted. Also, I actually contacted my BI today. She informed me that although she is attempting to move through the process quickly, the holiday season will inevitably hinder the process. She stated other departments taking time off for the holidays and either shutting down, or the people "covering" for the regular department workers aren't as knowledgeable. So, it appears to be a "hurry up and wait" type of situation.

I did ask her if all goes well with my investigation, did I have a shot at making the February academy and she stated she did not know (which I understand). She said she is going to do what she can to expedite the process, but she is not at liberty to say what (if any) academy I may attend (again, which I totally understand).

As far as the camp visit situation I brought up in a previous post, I am yet to go on a visit. Again, I am getting conflicting information regarding this issue. As I mentioned, when I phoned Camp Paige, the person informed me I would have to get "clearance" from HQ (which I interpreted to be my BI). However, when I asked my BI about this today (the purpose of my call to her), she stated she has no idea what clearance Camp Paige is referring to. So, what I am going to do is, I am going to re-call Camp Paige, and start all over. Anyone who might be able to "shed some light" on this issue, please chime in at your convenience.

Thanks and good luck all!
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Update:

I have not posted in this forum in months but here is what happen with me. By early August 2013, I was completely done with all the process (psy exam. physical exam, poly, etc.) to become a DPO I. It took me about 3.5 months to complete the whole process. I have to say that I was a military veteran as well had earned a master's degree and I think that put me above the average applicant (according to my BI). Soon after completing everything, I was told that if I was hired, I was going to attend the DPO academy in OCT. However, also in August I received notice that I was selected to attend one of the Military Officer programs in the country and where I just graduated from a couple of weeks ago. Now, I do not reside in CA anymore but yesterday (12/24/13) I was contacted by the Probation Department to see if I was still interested in becoming a DPO because they want to start filling out the academy seats for next year. I will call back the Prob Dept on Monday to decline any further consideration from the department and I sincerely hope that one of the many folks in this forum gets that spot that was "offered" to me. I am now a proud Military Officer and I sincerely wish the best to you all in the journey of joining the LEO community.

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Update:

Got a call today (12/30/13) from the Los Angeles County Probation Dept. to offer me the DPO I position with a academy starting date for 01/31/14. I declined the offer due to my new current career. Really hope somebody else from this forum gets the opportunity that I declined.
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Old 12-30-2013, 7:11 PM
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Somebody will eventually get the spot. We are still 800 positions down. Congrats naval on your current career. Best wishes to you and good luck to the rest of the applicants going through the probation process.
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Old 12-30-2013, 8:52 PM
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They will start you off with the first online assessment which will most likely happen sometime in january. Then the rest of the process is the same as for DPO I as i have detailed in this forum. That includes the academy. Good luck
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Somebody will eventually get the spot. We are still 800 positions down. Congrats naval on your current career. Best wishes to you and good luck to the rest of the applicants going through the probation process.
CaptMike, do you know when they will start hiring again for DPO's? Also, this might be a silly question, but does having a federal security clearance count? Thanks an I hope you all have a Happy New Year!

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Old 12-31-2013, 3:57 PM
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Next class for GSN DSO DPO I DPO II RT is in february. The next DPO II FIELD is in late march.

Having a federal security clearance will be a positive but it is not an automatic to get you hired. You still have to go through the entire process. I think that shooter back east at the navy ship yard still had a federal clearance. We still need to make sure all aspects of your life are stable currently.
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Hello everyone, I finished my final step back in November. Has anyone else finished the process or heard anything? I have not received anything regarding my status at the moment. I read the next class is in February. CaptMike if you are still in background and the expiration date on your eligibility list is rapidly approaching can you still be hired or do you have to reapply?
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If the final quality control folks approve you for hire, you should get a call within a week or two.
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Oh okay! Will I be notified either way or only if they approve me?
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Thank you.
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Hi CaptMike, do you know if any of the positions from GSN to DPO will be opening up again? I would like to apply and hopefully get hired.
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If the final quality control folks approve you for hire, you should get a call within a week or two.
Hello, I am currently in the background process and my investigator stated that their are no areas of concern with my background and is receiving positive feedback from my references, neighbors, and previous employers. She also stated that she is almost done with the investigation and will then submit my packet to HR for them to determine to offer me the position. The information my background investigator provided about the next steps seems contrary to what I have read on the forum. I have not received any information regarding polygraph or the psych eval. Does this process described by my investigator seem common for applicants? The second area of concern is that I applied for the both the DPO I and DPO II treatment and counseling positions, tested, and interviewed for both concurrently. I received the background packet for DPO I, however I have not received any further information about the DPO II position. Is their a reason why I haven't received any further information regarding the DPO II position?
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:51 PM
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If you havent completed poly then that will come next. Your backgrounds for Dpo I and Dpo II are progressing concurrently. The only difference is that you will have to complete a separate oral interview for the Dpo II position.
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:57 PM
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Calico, yes they all will reopen again. They are currently processing several thousand applicants for the various positions. You just missed GSN about a month ago. It looks like they are reopening each positiin about every 4 or 5 months. Just be ready to apply because they open the apps and we receive several thousand and they shut it down within 3 or 4 days.

You can actually go to the hr.lacounty.gov website and build the online application. If you have your application already saved on the server, it is a simple and quick process to appky when they open. Ill post on here when they open but it would probably be quicker if you put in an interest request on the HR website. Good luck
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