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Old 02-15-2013, 10:55 AM
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Calling the Mosin experts!

Anyway, my local pawn shop has a M91/59 carbine for $295.

I am not too familiar with the prices on those models. Is that good, okay or horrifying?

I know that would be pretty expensive for M44 and a bit out of range for a M38. I'm not inlcuding the recent panic pricing here.
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If you are collecting Mosin Nagant variants, I'd say buy it ('cause I heard somewhere they aren't making them anymore). It might seem a bit high, but in a few more years it will be a fair price, and a decade from now it would have been a steal.
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That's about the going rate for a 91/59. I'd offer $250 and negotiate from there. I'd be a buyer at about $275 if that helps you. The 91/59 has an interesting history and from most reports; it's the "best" shooting of the carbines. Either way, you should have no problem getting your money back for it if you should have to sell it one day. Good luck in your decision!
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If its nice, that's not a bad price. I paid $300 for ours, a little high, but its really nice. Also, you can never have enough Russian guns. The bottom rifle in this pic is our 91/59.
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That's about the going rate for a 91/59. I'd offer $250 and negotiate from there. I'd be a buyer at about $275 if that helps you. The 91/59 has an interesting history and from most reports; it's the "best" shooting of the carbines. Either way, you should have no problem getting your money back for it if you should have to sell it one day. Good luck in your decision!
I bought my 91/59 4 years ago for $75. I agree, it is the most accurate of all the carbines. It's also probably the most rare model.
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Old 02-15-2013, 3:06 PM
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Thanks for the responses. I am deciding on this or a 1896 M91 Finn capture that a friend has.
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Thanks for the responses. I am deciding on this or a 1896 M91 Finn capture that a friend has.
What are the specs on the 91/59, and what is the price/condition of the Finn 91?

42-43 Izhevsk 91/59s are the most common, but any 91/59 can be a little tricky to find.
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suck it up, and buy them both
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1896 Finn capture what? 1891 rifle or 1891 Dragoon?
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Just a standard Imperial M1891 Rifle, made in 1896. I cannot remember the manufacturer. It might be one of the rifles the Finns took from the Imperial arsenals when they kicked the Soviets out during the Russian Revolution. It has some Finnish stamps on it.
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suck it up, and buy them both
I could, but I would have to sell one of my other guns if I was to get any more.

Unless you guys want help out.
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I picked mine up at a show for $240 last year, decent shape, all matching, bore leaves some to be desired though.... Rather frosty, might clean up with some more shooting, I've only put about forty rounds through it.
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the 91/59's and the 91/38's are sweet shooters.
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Get them both. 91/59s arent that easy to find. If i had to choose i would take that one
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Tough choice. The various Mosin carbines - M38, M44, M91/44-91/38, and the 91/59 all have their own unique history that gives them quite a bit of collector appeal and at the right price are definitely an asset/investment.

But next year the Bolshevik swine that run this social-political-moral dungheap will have extend their unholy powers over that 91/59 like the rotten putrid hand of Lenin reaching out from the grave.

Where as that 1896 Finn captured Mosin will still be a clean, legal, cash and carry, antique.

Just my opinion, but given the choice, I think I'd take the M91
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After inspection of the 91/59 I don't believe that I will buy it. The upper part of the handguard has been replaced with a non-matching peace of wood and it looks awful.

Unless they are all like that...
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After inspection of the 91/59 I don't believe that I will buy it. The upper part of the handguard has been replaced with a non-matching peace of wood and it looks awful.

Unless they are all like that...
Wood on mine all matches nicely, but the history of the 91/59 is so unknown, that it Vertu well "came" that way
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91/59's use cut-down 91/30 handguards, which are sometimes a different color than the stock.

If the handguard itself has actually been "dicked with" by someone other than a Soviet aresnal, you could always modify a 91/30 handguard yourself to replace it with - assuming the condition and price of the rifle justified acquiring it.

Although the 91/59, in that configuration, doesn't have the combat history of an unaltered 91/30, they are still an interesting historical artifact that shows how the venerable Mosin platform was modified and issued even well into the "Cold War" and the age of the SKS and AK.
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After inspection of the 91/59 I don't believe that I will buy it. The upper part of the handguard has been replaced with a non-matching peace of wood and it looks awful.

Unless they are all like that...
That is not unusuall, mine came like that too.

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