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Old 02-10-2013, 2:27 PM
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Default I have an itch for some C&R guns

Im looking to buy 10-20 inexpensive C&R rifles. Most will be inexpensive one like older shotguns and old Remington 22lr. Is the a place in IE/SD/OC that specializing in selling these old guns? I figure after 2014 price would go up due to DROS and pain in butt wait on each one. Any ideas? Thanks
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Old 02-10-2013, 2:34 PM
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This is certainly the year to do it. I suggest getting your C&R license so you can do some hunting online and/or out of state. The ATF seems to be on top of getting them out pretty quickly as a buddy of mine just sent off and received his within a few weeks. Took 21 days for me exactly last summer.

Shops wise, any place that sells used guns. I know that's vague, but I have yet to find one that only specializes in only older C&R type guns.
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Gun shows.

Cash & Carry.
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Getting your C&R license is your best bet. Qualified rifles can be mailed right to your door at (usually) much better prices than you find locally.

I have a few C&R rifles I want to sell, but decided to wait till year end. I predict people will pay silly prices in December for cash and carry guns as they fear registration.

Have fun and look at the sticky above for online retailers. I routinely buy from Empire Arms, J&G, AIM, Wideners, etc.

The private, for sale section here is also good. You just have to check often and swoop fast on something if you really want it.
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+4 on getting your C&R. its really a no brainer.
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Im filling out form now. It says "C. Are you in possession of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?" I have a ccw permit but not a hunting license. Do I just put that down?
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C is under item 10 and only needs to be filled out if you are a nonimmigrant alien.
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Im filling out form now. It says "C. Are you in possession of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?" I have a ccw permit but not a hunting license. Do I just put that down?
Go back (up) a few lines, that is the "Nonimmigrant Alien Certification of Compliance" section.

If you are not one of those, skip that section. I assume you listed "United States" in section 9 under "Country of Citizenship"
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Gun shows, yard sales, church socials and any place where cheap beer and inflated fishing/hunting stories flow freely.
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Quick Question,

Is the application fee $30.00? I understand it's paid via CC.
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Isn't anyone worried about getting an ffl with this administration and current political climate? Even c&r??

I understand about a regular reseller ffl. But isn't anyone worried that now seems like the time to get off the grid rather than deeper in it? Why would anyone want to get more in ther sights?

Or is there a difference in c&r I'm missing
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A bit late to get off the grid. First handgun purchase in this state and you're on it. I can only think if they know you have one gun, there is a good chance you have multiple. However, having the FFL may bestow some confidence that you are at least trying to follow the rules. I really don't care to sit back and live in fear and not enjoy what I want to purchase, collect, and shoot.
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Not to threadjack, but...

Anyone interested in a C&R (made in 1916) Remington Model 8?

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I would, but I hear that the bullets fired from obsolete cartridges like 32s just bounce-off small critters and paper targets now days.
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Is the application fee $30.00? I understand it's paid via CC.
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I would, but I hear that the bullets fired from obsolete cartridges like 32s just bounce-off small critters and paper targets now days.


Wow, that's just silly.

This is basically a rimless version of the Winchester .32 Special. .32 Special is basically a .30-30, but delivers a little more knock-down power due to greater sectional density. .35 Remington and 7.62X39 are also in the same class.

Anyone out there want to hold a small critter or paper target in front of them and see if the bullets fired from my SKS's, AK's, .35 Remington Model 8, or .32 Special and .30-30 Winchester Model 1894's will bounce off them?
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Gun shows.

Cash & Carry.
...and ridulous prices.
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Not to threadjack, but...

Anyone interested in a C&R (made in 1916) Remington Model 8?
Wrong forum! You need to list these in the "Private Party Sales" section...

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A bit late to get off the grid. First handgun purchase in this state and you're on it. I can only think if they know you have one gun, there is a good chance you have multiple. However, having the FFL may bestow some confidence that you are at least trying to follow the rules. I really don't care to sit back and live in fear and not enjoy what I want to purchase, collect, and shoot.
maybe off the grid wasn't quite right. honestly I dros'd one handgun over 20 years ago, that I sold/traded a year later. others I brought in from out of state long before '98 (no reg). the few long guns I have of course were before dros for long guns. the 4473 is not as big a deal for me. like the atf is gonna get to typing in 200 million guns.

I should have purchased more over the years but alot of things came up along the way. It was a wild in my youth thing!! but I guess maybe now more of a "don't do anything to get in their sights" is probably correct. with the panic, being one of the "buyers' might raise a few eyebrows. and I'm a teacher, so I'd like to not bring any potential attention. i.e. think new york and the newspaper list.

I don't have enough, as much as I want, but "enough" of what I need. I get that c&r collectors are not the main target, but it's just that with this group in DC, you never know. I remember the last go 'round, when all the hobbyist ffl's basically got axed. I knew a few and it ended up being more a hassle than anything.

as for confidence, my guess is their thought is the exact opposite. maybe I'm being paranoid
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Nice looking shooter grade rifle - those old Model 8's and 81's are definitely interesting and historical. What are you asking on it?

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Anyone interested in a C&R (made in 1916) Remington Model 8?

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I'm not so sure about that...but I do know .32 Special bullets in a newer box will go faster.
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...and ridulous prices.
True story.
I saw a typical Mosin at the Ventura gun show last weekend for $328!!!!!
No sling, oil bottle or any accessories! I left with only jerky and Frog Lube.
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At $328 for a standard refurbed 91/30, they should have included some kind of lube with it....we're talking KY Jelly or Astroglide here, not Frog Lube!
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A friend of mine was one of those guys whom purchased a Mosin Nagant that day. He said he doesn't recall any lube at all.
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