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Old 05-19-2011, 10:51 AM
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I went to a UPS store near my house. The 5714 Folsom Blvd., 7485 Rush River Drive and 9175 Kiefer Blvd. ($15/card) all do fingerprinting.

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Just called my local UPS store. They want $25.00 to do a hard copy.

I just may go to the sherrifs office again it was only $10.00

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2) What will an NV police officers stance be if he is shown a CA driver;s license and an AZ CCW permit?

I wanted to quote this question because I was wondering the same thing. I know that NV does not yet honor the AZ permit, but has anyone had experience providing NV LEO with a non-resident permit?

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What does this mean?
I think he meant that if a non AZ resident is carrying without a permit in a business that serves alcohol, the non resident can contest the citation on grounds of insani...i mean... being a non resident.
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Here's my update.

5/15: Email sent.
5/16: Received email notification.

5/19: Received packet.
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Update:I got my packet yesterday i filled it out got my prints done and mailed out Today!
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I called them on May 2nd,recieved my packet May 4th,mailed it back to them on May 6th and recieved my CCW Permit May 11th.

Great friendly folks over there at the Arizona DPS
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I called them on May 2nd,recieved my packet May 4th,mailed it back to them on May 6th and recieved my CCW Permit May 11th.

Great friendly folks over there at the Arizona DPS
this makes me want to move to AZ. it seems they know how to run a state and cut through all the bureaucratic bull****.

I'll start searching for jobs in AZ after I near graduation. If we make it past Saturday
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I got my packet today. I took the course for Utah/Florida with both Utah and Florida permits. Should I send the training certificate? Or the a copy of my card(s)? Or possibly both? What are you guys sending in/using?
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5/15/11- Email inquiry requesting application
5/16/11- Received email notification request was received and packet will be mailed to address provided.
5/20- Application recieved

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I got my packet today. I took the course for Utah/Florida with both Utah and Florida permits. Should I send the training certificate? Or the a copy of my card(s)? Or possibly both? What are you guys sending in/using?
I sent copies of both training and CCWs. It worked for me.
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I received my AZ CCW in 5 working days upon DPS receiving my application. I sent them a copy of my training certificates and other related documents even though they only required me to send copies of my other CCWs, payment and 2 fingerprint cards.
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...I think he meant that if a non AZ resident is carrying without a permit in a business that serves alcohol, the non resident can contest the citation on grounds of insani...i mean... being a non resident....
Not quite. Maybe what I really mean is those seeking this or any other permit might at some point want to study the laws involved in addition to getting all excited about receiving it.
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Not quite. Maybe what I really mean is those seeking this or any other permit might at some point want to study the laws involved in addition to getting all excited about receiving it.
Yes. It a personal responsibility to know the law in every state in which they intend to carry. Those who don't, and get in trouble do all gun owners a disservice, and provide ammo to the antigunners.

As for the non-resident in a bar defense. It is indeed an affirmative defense for a non-resident to claim ignorance for a first offense. That said, the judge/jury doesn't have to accept it.

I would suggest that anyone, resident or non, who stands in front of an AZ judge and claims he is ignorant of AZ gun laws while holding an AZ CCW in his hand is simply going to piss that judge off.
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Here's my update.

5/15: Email sent.
5/16: Received email notification.
5/19: Received packet.

5/20: Mailed packet.

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Here's my update.

5/15: Email sent.
5/16: Received email notification.
5/19: Received packet.

5/20: Mailed packet.

Mailed my packet as well... hopefully there will be no discrepancies with the arrival dates and both arrive quickly .
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It's great to see that many are now applying for the AZ CCW. I have mine for almost a year now and before the aniticipated law that Nevada will honor the AZ permit - Great News!

I really don't need the AZ CCW but I applied for one to simply show my support to their wonderful state :-)

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Mailed my packet as well... hopefully there will be no discrepancies with the arrival dates and both arrive quickly .
LOL! Nice to hear from you classmate. We need to have a reunion one of this days. Congrats in advance on your AZ CCW. Good decision for applying. AZ process is painless and they are very friendly aka supportive. I also read your post about your wish from Santa on the CA CCW. I'm with you brother and just be patient. I just received mine few months ago after some persistence and a lot of patience :-)

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Thanks for the info and links. I requested my application package as well. Hope that the NV coverage takes effect.
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I really don't need the AZ CCW but I applied for one to simply show my support to their wonderful state :-)
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Just requested an application packet.

This will cover me for weekend getaways to the Tahoe area AND my trip to New Orleans this summer (Louisiana recognizes AZ permits)! Woohoo!

One question though: Is my CA CCW alone enough to satisfy the AZ training requirement? Or do I absolutely need to send proof of training course completion?
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In spite of what the statute says several people have reported that AZ DPS will not accept a CA CCW alone as meeting the alternate training requirements. See the "Effective July 1" thread.
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Just requested an application packet.

This will cover me for weekend getaways to the Tahoe area AND my trip to New Orleans this summer (Louisiana recognizes AZ permits)! Woohoo!

One question though: Is my CA CCW alone enough to satisfy the AZ training requirement? Or do I absolutely need to send proof of training course completion?
I am sending more than required just to be sure.
1-NRA Basic Pistol/Revolver Safety Course
2- DD-214
3- Copy of Florida non-resident CCW

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I am planning on sending:
1) Copy of my CA CCW permit
2) Copy of my NRA Basic Pistol/Revolver Safety Course certificate
3) Copy of my 16-hour CCW training course certificate

Should that suffice? I'm on a tight schedule to get the permit before I leave for vacation in July, so I don't want to screw up the paperwork.
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I am planning on sending:
1) Copy of my CA CCW permit
2) Copy of my NRA Basic Pistol/Revolver Safety Course certificate
3) Copy of my 16-hour CCW training course certificate

Should that suffice? I'm on a tight schedule to get the permit before I leave for vacation in July, so I don't want to screw up the paperwork.
The other thread said AZ does not honor CA CCW.

I think your #2 wins the prize.

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Dang, I just sent in a copy of my DD214. Forgot to add copies of my other CCWs.
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read it 3 times. so you have to have training from either of those to carry in Az as a non-resident?
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I noticed that the application has a place for an instructor's signature, course info, etc.

What are you guys doing? Just leaving that section blank?
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Yeah leave it Blank. You need to sign the top part though.
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I'm thinking of sending it in and just put in a copy of my certificate from "Valley Defense" which states "Concealed carry weapon" as the course title. I'll probably mention that it was an 8 hour course. Think it will fly?

I can understand their stance on CA CCW courses all beiong different because I believe the requirement states no less than 4 hours and no more than 8 hours...
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I'm beginning to think AZ should have made this a lot harder.
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5/15/11- Email inquiry requesting application
5/16/11- Received email notification request was received and packet will be mailed to address provided.
5/20- Application recieved
5/23- Fingerprinting complete/Application mailed
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I just mailed in my application today.

Did anyone else just fold and stuff their application into the envelope that is for the fingerprints?
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I just mailed in my application today.

Did anyone else just fold and stuff their application into the envelope that is for the fingerprints?
That is part of their psychological, intelligence and creativity test. If you fold the form and certificates more than two, a more severe background check will take place and could possibly prolong the approval.

If you fold the Finger Print card, rumor says you fail...

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Do the fingerprints HAVE to be done by someone else?
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Do the fingerprints HAVE to be done by someone else?
I did not see a specific method. However, signature of person taking the prints is required.

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Okay, I'll add mine.

18 May - Email inquiry requesting application
21 May - Application received
23 May - Fingerprinting complete/Application mailed


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I sent an email request asking for a packet to be mailed to my CA address and if they would recognize my UT non-res permit to satisfy the training requirement.

I received a response in 18 minutes (wow):

We can use either the Florida or Utah CCW permit as alternate documentation. Make a copy of the front and back of either permit and include it with the application packet forms. We will get an application packet out to you in the mail. Thank you.

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Update - requested application 5/24, received app 5/27, mailed 5/31.... standing by.....
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I sent an email request asking for a packet to be mailed to my CA address and if they would recognize my UT non-res permit to satisfy the training requirement.

I received a response in 18 minutes (wow):

We can use either the Florida or Utah CCW permit as alternate documentation. Make a copy of the front and back of either permit and include it with the application packet forms. We will get an application packet out to you in the mail. Thank you.

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The back? Como?

Guess I only sent in 2 forms of documentation instead of 3.

That's why I always send more than required, well, unless it involves money..

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I received a response in 18 minutes (wow):

We can use either the Florida or Utah CCW permit as alternate documentation. Make a copy of the front and back of either permit and include it with the application packet forms. We will get an application packet out to you in the mail. Thank you.

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*ugh* I only sent copies of the front of my CCWs. Crossing my fingers and praying/hoping that will suffice.
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