Ventura - *** TIME TO APPLY!!! ***

[quig]

Word on the street is that Dean went from approving 90%, to denying 90%. Even renewals.

Is this preemptive tactic in anticipation of the release of the good cause statements?

[Connor P Price]

Originally Posted by quig

Word on the street is that Dean went from approving 90%, to denying 90%. Even renewals.

Is this preemptive tactic in anticipation of the release of the good cause statements?

I don't believe that he went from 90% approving to 90% denying, and even more seriously doubt that that it was part of any tactic.

[One78Shovel]

Originally Posted by quig

Word on the street is that Dean went from approving 90%, to denying 90%. Even renewals.

Is this preemptive tactic in anticipation of the release of the good cause statements?

Originally Posted by Connor P Price

I don't believe that he went from 90% approving to 90% denying, and even more seriously doubt that that it was part of any tactic.

I look forward to learning more on what the Sheriff's 'criteria' is when determining GC.

What's interesting is I must be a perceived threat to society to carry concealed, when in actuality, genuine threats to society do not apply for CCW, they carry illegally.

Just does not compute.

-178S

[choprzrul]

Would really love to read some of those GC statements that you guys keep talking about.....


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[wildhawker]

Look for the Ventura GC statements to be posted on Tuesday.

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by wildhawker

Look for the Ventura GC statements to be posted on Tuesday.

Sometime between 12:01 AM & 11:59 PM???


Yes I am a wise ***..................

[Midian]

Again, great job CGF guys. I'm very interested to know how much favouritism, nepotism, and elitism has infiltrated the Ventura County CCW approval process.

I hope it isn't the case, but when you put people together they will indeed collude. Of course what all of us Ventura County residents really would like to know is: are there more lenient good cause statements that have been accepted other than the usual "I'm being stalked, I carry lots of capital" type situations, etc.

To my knowledge Sacramento County was pressed into effectively becoming Shall Issue from the CGF efforts, so the hope of course is that this also happens here.

[vintagearms]

Originally Posted by wildhawker

Look for the Ventura GC statements to be posted on Tuesday.

Looking forward to them.

[joefreas]

Originally Posted by wildhawker

Look for the Ventura GC statements to be posted on Tuesday.

[Some Guy]

[Burbur]

Originally Posted by wildhawker

Look for the Ventura GC statements to be posted on Tuesday.

Which Tuesday?

[G-forceJunkie]

Originally Posted by Burbur

Which Tuesday?

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by Burbur

Which Tuesday?

Thanks...

You got me laughing....

[EBR Works]

Anyone here do a renewal with Ventura recently? How far in advance of your expiration did you hear from the investigator? I'm 3 weeks from expiration and have heard nothing....

My renewal app was submitted and receipt acknowledged over 3 months ago.
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[sixdays]

My wasn't a renewal, but I just got my license in the mail after 15 months. Pretty long time

[One78Shovel]

I was recently denied by Sherrif Dean and will submit an appeal once I view the GC statements coming out.

-178S

[kemasa]

Good luck on the appeal. There is no real process except to ask again. I was denied, after having a permit for around 10 years, because I had an appointment and had the nerve to ask if anyone else could help me when the person was out sick. That renewal went through, but the next one was denied and they falsely claimed I was fired from a job, which I proved was false, but it did not matter. I was told by the Undersheriff that you need to quietly walk away when you get an answer that you don't like. I did not make a scene or anything else since if I did, I would have been denied right away and had a nice chat with many deputies, which did not happen. I asked Dean, after he took office, and got a letter saying I did not qualify.

[One78Shovel]

Originally Posted by kemasa

Good luck on the appeal. There is no real process except to ask again. I was denied, after having a permit for around 10 years, because I had an appointment and had the nerve to ask if anyone else could help me when the person was out sick. That renewal went through, but the next one was denied and they falsely claimed I was fired from a job, which I proved was false, but it did not matter. I was told by the Undersheriff that you need to quietly walk away when you get an answer that you don't like. I did not make a scene or anything else since if I did, I would have been denied right away and had a nice chat with many deputies, which did not happen. I asked Dean, after he took office, and got a letter saying I did not qualify.

Pertty much it. I spoke with the Deputy who handles appeals and he said for me to write a letter, basically repeating why I feel I should have a CCW, then email it to him and he will deliver it to the Sherrif for re-consideration.

Can't hurt. But not optomistic either.

-178S

[atomicwedgy]

Am I wrong in assuming that as a public official the Sherriff should be available for a face to face meeting for any Ventura county resident?

[Librarian]

See the thread http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=479607

Docs available here.

[racer_X_123]

So now that the good cause statements are up I can see that self protection is a reason that seems to fly... I was denied with a very similar reason.


What are my options?

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by racer_X_123

So now that the good cause statements are up I can see that self protection is a reason that seems to fly... I was denied with a very similar reason.


What are my options?

That should be discussed with the guys at CGF, and not in this open forum....

[racer_X_123]

Originally Posted by HowardW56

That should be discussed with the guys at CGF, and not in this open forum....

Who and how would I go about following up on this information? I was denied back in Feb. of this year.

[greasemonkey]

Originally Posted by racer_X_123

Who and how would I go about following up on this information? I was denied back in Feb. of this year.

Contact bcombs at calgunsfoundation dot org

[Dead*Reckoned]

I'm 18, do I have any chance of getting a permit with self defense as a good cause?

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by Dead*Reckoned

I'm 18, do I have any chance of getting a permit with self defense as a good cause?

I am not aware of a prohibition, but I think you would be fighting an up hill battle...

[Dead*Reckoned]

Originally Posted by HowardW56

I am not aware of a prohibition, but I think you would be fighting an up hill battle...

Good, because I like a challenge. I do know that California and Alabama are the only 2 states in which the minimum age is only 18 as opposed to 21. I wonder if there have been any 18-20 year olds in shall issue counties which have had permits issued to them?

[One78Shovel]

Well, I received a denial from Sheriff Dean on my appeal for CCW. What a crock of *&^%. Of course I will not post my GC here, but trust me, it goes beyond some of the ones we have viewed recently which have been approved.

Thank god Im older and wiser or I would carry anyway....

It reads,

" I have reviewed your letter appealing your denial for issuance of a Concealed Weapons Permit. Based upon all information in your file, including your newest letter, you do not presently meet the agency's criteria for the issuance of a concelased weapons permit. Therefore, I must deny your request".


I do not meet the criteria but others do. Man I can't wait unitl I retire and get the ---- out of this dam state.

-178S

[kemasa]

I got the same exact letter. To me, the whole department is corrupt (meaning not following the rules).

[ETD1010]

Originally Posted by EBR Works

Anyone here do a renewal with Ventura recently? How far in advance of your expiration did you hear from the investigator? I'm 3 weeks from expiration and have heard nothing....

My renewal app was submitted and receipt acknowledged over 3 months ago.
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I submitted a renewel with two and a half months to spare, and she told me it was enough time (I didn't know that a "renewal" was actually submitting an application all over again or I would have done it with a LOT more time to spare" I have 21 days left before mine expires now, and not even the interview has been done. . .

[EBR Works]

Last word from the VCSD regarding my renewal was that she "had seen the file and the Sheriff had signed it. Expect a call within a few days". We"ll see what happens next. 7 days to expiration.

[JCaswell]

Is anyone getting allowed on new applications?

[Gray Peterson]

Originally Posted by Dead*Reckoned

I'm 18, do I have any chance of getting a permit with self defense as a good cause?

Originally Posted by HowardW56

I am not aware of a prohibition, but I think you would be fighting an up hill battle...

The California Penal Code specifies no minimum age for getting a license to carry. There are other statutes involving under-18 possession which would make such an issued license to an under-18 worthless, and therefor make one's good cause equally worthless.

Originally Posted by Dead*Reckoned

Good, because I like a challenge. I do know that California and Alabama are the only 2 states in which the minimum age is only 18 as opposed to 21.

Not correct. Alabama is 19. California has no minimum age, and neither does New Hampshire or Rhode Island. South Dakota & North Dakota is 18. Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado issues carry licenses on a may-issue or emergency basis to 18-21 year olds. Maryland sets it at 18. New Jersey is also at 18....

Originally Posted by Dead*Reckoned

I wonder if there have been any 18-20 year olds in shall issue counties which have had permits issued to them?

Sutter County has a stated 18 year old issuance policy. Sacramento doesn't restrict it to over 21's, though they may ask questions about lawful acquirement (if you did an intrafamilial transfer form you'd be OK, such as parent giving you a gift {do not pay the parent to buy you a gun, this is a federal straw purchase violation}).

I can say that at this time, 18-21 carry license issuance isn't in the cards for litigation until we can bring Salute into the modern era. That being said, Salute requires acceptance & processing for EVERY application, period.

[mbacfp1911]

What's next for Ventura County? New apps. matching/similiar to already approved GCs?

[Ima2Avoter]

Originally Posted by kemasa

I was denied, after having a permit for around 10 years, because I had an appointment and had the nerve to ask if anyone else could help me when the person was out sick. That renewal went through, but the next one was denied and they falsely claimed I was fired from a job, which I proved was false, but it did not matter.

So being fired from a job can prohibit you from getting a CCL? Are they afraid you'll go back and execute the people that terminated you? Could someone elaborate on this please.

[kemasa]

What it means is that if you annoy them (which can be anything, such as asking for someone to help you), they will lie so as to have a "reason" to deny you and there is little you can do about it unless you have money. They refused to respond to my request to explain why they lied about me being fired from a job as well. The system is corrupt.

[EBR Works]

One positive note on Ventura - I picked up my renewal today. My prior LTC expired last week, but thanks to Brandon Combs and his efforts with the VCSD, I'm now good for another 2 years. Things are going to get a whole lot easier once the CGF is done with them....

[One78Shovel]

Originally Posted by Ima2Avoter

So being fired from a job can prohibit you from getting a CCL? Are they afraid you'll go back and execute the people that terminated you? Could someone elaborate on this please.

Sheriff Dean has more faith in criminals who carry illegally to not commit a crime, than he does in law abiding citizens defending themselves against one.

-178S

[PycckN-Comrade]

I see no recent posts here. Has anyone applied for a new permit in the past 2-3 months?
If yes, any news/info? I'm taking my application in next week.

So far the sheriff's office has been very co-operative. I called to request the app and had it in my mailbox in 2 days. A few days later I called them with a question and was surprised to learn there was a dedicated line for the CCW questions. Left a message and got call a call back from the public information desk officer in about 2 hours. The Deputy was very polite and informative.
So far so good. Taking the app in next week. Let's see how it goes...

[wildhawker]

Originally Posted by PycckN-Comrade

I see no recent posts here. Has anyone applied for a new permit in the past 2-3 months?
If yes, any news/info? I'm taking my application in next week.

So far the sheriff's office has been very co-operative. I called to request the app and had it in my mailbox in 2 days. A few days later I called them with a question and was surprised to learn there was a dedicated line for the CCW questions. Left a message and got call a call back from the public information desk officer in about 2 hours. The Deputy was very polite and informative.
So far so good. Taking the app in next week. Let's see how it goes...

We'll be publishing news on Ventura soon. You mentioned a few things of the many that are positive for Ventura residents.

-Brandon