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Old 03-07-2010, 10:44 PM
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Default 35 State Non-Resident CCW Class - Livermore, CA - July 13, 2013

This class is for the Utah, Florida, Arizona concealed carry permits
which are available to residents of any state. Residents of a contiguous
state for Oregon. The course is $150.00 and includes the course fee,
passport photos, notary and Utah permit fingerprinting.

The Utah, Florida, Arizona and Oregon permits combined are recognized in
35 different states for those that are not residents of Utah, Florida,
Arizona and Oregon!

Register at this link: http://www.alphasafetytraining.net/schedule.html


Date: July 13, 2013

Time: 10AM - 4PM

Location: Livermore, CA

J&R Sports Supply, LLC
2558-B Old 1st Street
Livermore, CA 94550


All materials, syllabus, annotated laws, applications and fingerprint
cards will be provided by the instructor. You will need to be
fingerprinted, and your application will require your signature to be
notarized. Notary for Florida and fingerprinting for Utah are included
in the $150 registration fee. Exceptions are as follows: Fingerprinting
for Florida MUST be done by a law enforcement organization and
fingerprinting for Oregon MUST be done by the Sheriff in Grant County.
Arizona fingerprinting available for $20. Please bring cash if you would
like this service.


Here is a list of states that honor the Non-Resident CCW permits if you
get Utah, Florida, Arizona and Oregon:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

Who is Eligible?

*Minimum requirements for application for a concealed firearms permit in
Utah are:
•Applicant must be at least 21 years of age
•Proof of good character...whereas the applicant;
°has not been convicted of a felony;
°has not been convicted of any crime of violence;
°has not been convicted of any offenses involving the unlawful use of
narcotics or other controlled substances;
°has not been convicted of any offenses involving moral turpitude;
°has not been convicted of any offense involving domestic violence;
°has not been adjudicated by a court of a state or of the United States
as mentally incompetent, unless the adjudication has been withdrawn or
reversed
° has completed any and all requirements of a conviction of any offense
involving the use of alcohol at least 6 years prior to applying

*A criminal background check is conducted for all applicants

Private or group classes available.

Call 916-215-9148 or e-mail jim@alphasafetytraining.com for further info
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I took this class last Sunday. Exceeded my expectations! Professional and well run.
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A big +1 for Doc. I took his Utah class about 18 months ago and it was great.

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I dont know anything about CCW at all, so a person that attends and finish this class will have CCW for all the following state?...
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same question so if you qualify pay the $150 and pass the class you get your ccw permit for all those states?
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I take it that: 1) there is no range qualification for the Utah and Florida permits; 2) therefore we don't need to bring our gun(s) to the class and prove we can shoot them accurately; and, 3) the permits (if issued) will not specify a particular guns for CCW, but will authorize any gun that Utah and Florida allow for CCW, even if I haven't specified a gun or "qualified" with it. Am I correct in these assumptions?

I just want to know, and I have signed up for the next class in Livermore.

I have a CCW permit here in California, which authorizes only two guns that I've had to qualify with at the range. I got a non-resident Washington CCW a few years ago, but that didn't require any qualification or specify specific authorized guns. The deputy I spoke with when I applied for it in King County said it covered any handgun that was registered to me...
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I thought Nevada honored Utah. Am I missing something?
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I thought Nevada honored Utah. Am I missing something?
Last year NV stopped honoring the Utah permit due to Utah not having a live firing qualification test as part of the permit.
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As TonyM said, the Utah and Florida permits were determined by the Nevada Chiefs and Sheriffs to not be "substantially similar" to the Nevada permit and requirements. Nevada stopped honoring the Utah and Florida permits as of July 01, 2009.
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As TonyM said, the Utah and Florida permits were determined by the Nevada Chiefs and Sheriffs to not be "substantially similar" to the Nevada permit and requirements. Nevada stopped honoring the Utah and Florida permits as of July 01, 2009.
OK, I guess that TonyM is right as to the reason for the change, and this goes to my earlier question about the Utah/Florida permit not requiring a live-fire range qualification. This means that if you want a Nevada permit, you need to go to a Nevada certfied class and qualify at the range.

Too bad, but I understand Nevada's position.
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Are there still seats available for the Livermore class? I've emailed, PMed and tried to call the guy but no response. Also, this thread keeps disappearing and then reappearing - maybe there should be a range qualification test as it seems my eyesight is coming and going .
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Are there still seats available for the Livermore class? I've emailed, PMed and tried to call the guy but no response. Also, this thread keeps disappearing and then reappearing - maybe there should be a range qualification test as it seems my eyesight is coming and going .
If I somehow missed your call, I apologize. I just saw your PM and note here on the forums. I have been swamped getting things in line for my Sailors and Marines coming home from Afghanistan and also logistics for two of our Marines that were killed last week.

The course is still happening and there are seats available. If I can answer any other questions, please give me a call or email and I will get back to you within 24 hours.
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There are still seats available for the April course.
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Is there a test you have to pass or do you have to pay an just be able to pass the background check only
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Is there a test you have to pass or do you have to pay an just be able to pass the background check only
There is no test. Attend the course, pay attention to the material, pass the background check and you're good to go.
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I just completed the Livermore Utah Multistate course, and posted a critique elsewhere on this site. Bottom line: this course is really fine business and worth every penny. I've been around the block and received had all sorts of weapons instruction over the years, and Jim knows whereof he speaks. Clear and competent instruction without unecessary "attitude" from a guy who knows firearms and has "been there and done that." What more could you want?
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I too completed the class in Livermore today and would like to absolutely agree with everything neuron said. Jim and his wife were great and the class was worth every penny. You won't be disappointed!
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Jim and his wife did a good job along with the J+R Gun shop. the class was well informed great for beginners or veterans as laws changes. he also sell T-shirts and 50 state CCW books so bring extra money if u would wish to purchase these items. thanks Jim and his no name wife(jk). will let u know on the turnaaround sent the UT out today.
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Agree with the others. Informative class that focuses on both gun safety and Utah law. Jim is highly qualified and makes the material easy to follow. Would definitely recommend training from Jim to anyone.
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I found a link for Live Scan sevice. this should be used for the Florida permits.
according to the class it MUST be a Law Enforcement agency that do the live scan.

http://www.ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/pu...ns/contact.php
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Thank you all for the comments! It was my pleasure to spend the day with each of you and I appreciate all the great questions and comments during class! Please keep me updated on your timeline so that I can keep upcoming classes appraised of turnaround time.
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Thank you all for the comments! It was my pleasure to spend the day with each of you and I appreciate all the great questions and comments during class! Please keep me updated on your timeline so that I can keep upcoming classes appraised of turnaround time.
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Is there any benifit to a person in CA that doesn't really leave the state?
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Is there any benifit to a person in CA that doesn't really leave the state?
If you don't leave the state, the permit will not benefit you. If you'd like to take the course for the information that you will learn, that would be a benefit.
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If you don't leave the state, the permit will not benefit you. If you'd like to take the course for the information that you will learn, that would be a benefit.
+1.

Good training is valuable in its own right. Even if the training doesn't get you something specific that you may want (like a CCW permit), if you learn things that can serve you in other ways, the training you receive will be worth it.

There are things for which you can never receive too much training...owning and using firearms is one of those things. There is no such thing as a firearms "expert" who can't benefit from more training. Anyone who thinks he is above benefitting from further training is just an arrogant fool.
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Opening post updated with June 2010 course information.
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im interested in the june course, what is the class and how many hours is it? also how long is the permit valvid? and what do you need to do to keep it current?

thanks, and by the by j and r sports is great, i usually drive 1.5 hrs just to spend my money there.
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Thank you for your interest!

The course is 5 hours and includes drinks, snacks and lunch. The Utah permit is valid for 5 years and the Florida permits is valid for 7 years. No further classes are required to renew.

Let me know if I can provide you with any further info.

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im interested in the june course, what is the class and how many hours is it? also how long is the permit valvid? and what do you need to do to keep it current?

thanks, and by the by j and r sports is great, i usually drive 1.5 hrs just to spend my money there.
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There are still seats available for this class.
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I am new here, but would also like to know if the Utah permit also requires a fee, and if it must be renewed annually? Thank you.
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I am new here, but would also like to know if the Utah permit also requires a fee, and if it must be renewed annually? Thank you.
Yes, you need to send $65.25 to Utah which is good for 5 years. $35 for the permit fee and $30.25 for the FBI background check. For Florida you will send $117 and their permit is valid for 7 years.

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One day left before the June course! Email confirmations have all been sent. See you Sunday morning at J&R Sports Supply!
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Thank you to all at the June course! Great questions and interaction lady and gents!

Opening post updated with July 2010 information!
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Thank you for the class Jim, i enjoyed it very much and have recommended it to a pair of my freinds who are interest in the CCW course.
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