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All club highpower matches for the rest of the year are cancelled. This may or may not include all Championship matches.

This is due to some serious political BS by the new President. All this came to a head this past weekend at the Long Range Championships
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Man, sorry to hear that. Not that I attended but a lot of you guys would go down.

No "days of our lives" details?
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Wow, that some news. I've been there a couple of times for high power matches, that's one of the mainstays of central CA high power shooting.
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I knew something was afoot with the new club president having a "discussion" with Uncle Dirk for a loooooong time in the clubhouse during the October regional. After the email went out that bbqs and the trademark grandslam breakfast on Sundays are axed at the range, things just went downhill from there.



Well, if the service rifle and highpower state championships are held at Sac next year for whatever reason, no complaints here...but it would really suck for the socal shooters.
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After the email went out that bbqs and the trademark grandslam breakfast on Sundays are axed at the range
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Is this official? Just got the LR championship email from Dirk and no mention of other events being canceled. (except the BBQ, and what the heck happened to cause that!)

Not that I doubt you, but what was your source? I'll have to ask Jim O what's going to happen for future events when I see him next weekend.
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What's up with that?
The club president apparently has a "personal vendetta", he even padlocked the kitchen according to another email I just got with the LR match results.

anyway, grats to Noma Mayo for winning it (shock) with her Palma rifle.
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WOW! Doesn't he realize that match fees fund the club. The membership fees are just to keep the riffraff out. Well, I wonder what Joe's wife is going to think when 50 guys show up at his house for breakfast before the next match that is shot there?
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Is this official? Just got the LR championship email from Dirk and no mention of other events being canceled. (except the BBQ, and what the heck happened to cause that!)

Not that I doubt you, but what was your source? I'll have to ask Jim O what's going to happen for future events when I see him next weekend.
sources was Jim O and John Armanini
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What's up with that?
The cook was one of the past Presidents and the now current Pres. don't lke him.... to the cooks credability.. he cooked all the food at his house and brought it all to the range to feed everyone this past saturday.
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Well, I wonder what Joe's wife is going to think when 50 guys show up at his house for breakfast before the next match that is shot there?
shouldn't come as a shock, his grandslam breakfast is that good, beats anything Denny's puts out
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The cook was one of the past Presidents and the now current Pres. don't lke him.... to the cooks credability.. he cooked all the food at his house and brought it all to the range to feed everyone this past saturday.
Sounds like the match director should divert the match proceeds to some sort of mobile kitchen so there can still be the grub that we always hear about at the matches, even without the club kitchen...
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Not that I know anything about match shooting (cuz I don't) that just sounds like a bunch of BS. Politics suck...Kudos to the cook!
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WTF? So the current president shut down the HP matches over personality conflicts with the past president aka the Cook?

You have got to be kidding me?
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WTF? So the current president shut down the HP matches over personality conflicts with the past president aka the Cook?

You have got to be kidding me?
There's all sorts of aholes out there.
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WTF? So the current president shut down the HP matches over personality conflicts with the past president aka the Cook?

You have got to be kidding me?
Give some people a title and it goes right to their F*&^ing head, seen it before. This will be the downfall of shooting clubs and ranges in Kalifornia.
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this current pres. was pres. a while back and almost ran the club into ground.. he basically told membership.. vote for me and I'll make the club money!!!......
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I have never shot at this club but is there anything we can do as shooters to help out?

There has to be some seriously pissed off people that there is no more HP down there.
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Got an email from Dirk tonight that he is resigning as High Power Chairman of the club at Coalinga. Dirk is one of the great guys in HP, and has been instrumental in the success of the CA Grizzlies junior HP team. It will be a huge loss for HP and the Coalinga range.
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The wheels are starting to turn in trying to resolve this. Letters are being sent to the club's vice president and it has been suggested that the bylaws are gone over to see if the president even has the power to do this. There was even talk of getting the CRPA or NRA involved since they both either lent or donated resources to help develop the range.
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This info was passed on to me by a verrry longtime member of Coalinga

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Re the BBQ: It is illegal to serve food and charge for it without a license. If anyone got ill the club would be liable. It is unlikely that Coalinga would pass a license inspection. There are alternatives, for example, a “pot luck” or not charging for the food. It does not appear that the new president is interested in exploring alternatives.

The reason behind the increase in camping fees is to buy additional land from Chevron. The current president used to work for Chevron.

Apparently the new president wants to make Coalinga into a local private club.

The new president’s hostility to high power is due to a previous election where HP shooters may have been responsible for him not getting elected.


Several years ago CRPA loaned Coalinga $30,000 to buy the land in settlement of a civil suit brought by someone who owned a piece of land directly crossing the range. I recall that suit but that is another story. CRPA was also responsible for the improvements to the back berm.
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In working with the new pres for the FCSA match there I can say that you are right about the cooking, it is concerns about the licensing. Also, camping is going up to $20 a nite for hook ups, $10 a night without (from $10 & $5). Club dues are also going up to $50 a year (from $30).

There is concern that long term there could be issues with land development and getting the land now while it is cheaper isn't all bad. I know of many ranges in my area that ended out having to close because of things like that.

Raising money for the long term is good but not if it kills you in the short term. Change sometimes needs to come at a slower pace and with more people involved. Hopefully this can all get worked out.

That being said, the CRC officers are restricted to local people and voted on by only local people. I as a member of the CRC I don't live in the local school district so I can't run or vote for office. There is a lot of politics going on there right now and I hope they are able to work everything out. I have seen some softening of the new pres's position so hopefully this can be resolved soon so we can all get back to what we like to do, SHOOTING! I know many there are working on it.
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In working with the new pres for the FCSA match there I can say that you are right about the cooking, it is concerns about the licensing. Also, camping is going up to $20 a nite for hook ups, $10 a night without (from $10 & $5). Club dues are also going up to $50 a year (from $30).

There is concern that long term there could be issues with land development and getting the land now while it is cheaper isn't all bad. I know of many ranges in my area that ended out having to close because of things like that.

Raising money for the long term is good but not if it kills you in the short term. Change sometimes needs to come at a slower pace and with more people involved. Hopefully this can all get worked out.

That being said, the CRC officers are restricted to local people and voted on by only local people. I as a member of the CRC I don't live in the local school district so I can't run or vote for office. There is a lot of politics going on there right now and I hope they are able to work everything out. I have seen some softening of the new pres's position so hopefully this can be resolved soon so we can all get back to what we like to do, SHOOTING! I know many there are working on it.
Land development? Where? There's no right of way or water beyond the pits. Buy all the land you want--there's no legal way to access it.
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Land development? Where? There's no right of way or water beyond the pits. Buy all the land you want--there's no legal way to access it.
As was mentioned earlier, one parcel of land did change hands a little while back and the new owner discovered that it included part of the land that the range is on. Land development doesn't always mean suburb's. But that doesn't change to problem of getting things back to normal at Coalinga.
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FYI, these emails were posted on the San Jose Zouaves site:

From: Dirk Seeley [mailto:dseeley@vtlnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:07 PM
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Subject: Coalinga

We need to really put the pressure on at the CRC. I believe that cracks are
showing in the current regime.

What I would like to have every one do is send emails today and tomorrow.

All of you that belong to the Coalinga Rifle Club please send an email
(stating you are a member) asking that an impeachment vote AND a membership
dismissal vote for the current president be held at the next regularly
scheduled meeting of the club on January 4th.

All of you that are not club members but shoot there in club matches or
State Championship events please send an email stating that you will not
attend any events there if the current president Clarence Koslowski is still
in office. So you think the best solution would be to schedule an
impeachment vote AND a membership dismissal vote at the next regularly
scheduled club meeting on January 4th so that this issue can be resolved.

This club needs the income from the State Championships to operate
effectively, so this is our way to make them listen.

A little background is in order here, Clarence or "Koz" has been club
president before (I have spent considerable time researching what follows
talking to older shooters who were involved at the time). In the 70's he
tried the same thing raising the price of things at the club. The shooters
complained, he said not to worry as the shooters didn't have anyplace else
to go and that they would continue coming. Well they did stop coming and
Koz was voted out of office and the shooters came back in the early 80's.
Oh and don't believe Koz when he tells you he built those pits single
handedly either. I have talked to the people who did build them (using
money loaned INTEREST FREE from CRPA) they could even name the cement
contractor and fabricator who built the targets, none of them had anything
positive to say about any contributions Koz made to the project.

Dirk




From: Dirk Seeley [mailto:dseeley@vtlnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Dirk Seeley
Subject: addresses

Sorry I guess I need to give you the addresses to send the email to.

Send it to Greg Price icegap2@sbcglobal.net

send carbon copies to

Joe Oman mellowmax44@hotmail.com

Don Witt dandjwitt@sbcglobal.net

Koz kozandjoyce@msn.com

Jack jwoodbri@myway.com

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Dirk sent an updated email for Joe Oman:

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Kozlowski and two others resigned in a special session yesterday. Things are starting to be resolved. Thanks to all who sent emails and offered moral support.
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Kozlowski and two others resigned in a special session yesterday.
Is that the guy that killed the highpower program?
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yep, along with raising the camping fees, banning the bbq/breakfast and matches and putting up !Achtung! signs on the gate

Koz was the ex-president of the CRC. I'm not sure who's going to step in to take his place, but at least this phase is over with.
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Very good. Please keep us posted. Will there be Highpower matches now? What about breakfasts? :-)

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Impeach the clown!
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Joe was never the CRC president he has always been the rangemaster and is the longest serving board member at the club.

The whole issue of needing to be licensed to serve food is ridiculous. They are a non profit organization and therefore exempt from those regulations. That was his personal vendetta, how low life is it to cancel the BBQ less than a week before the match AND NOT EVEN TELL THE MATCH DIRECTOR? Fortunately it only took about a week for the reasonable members of the board to research that and correct things.

The land from Chevron IS NOT FOR SALE. If it ever becomes available the money to purchase it won't be a problem. Koz never worked for Chevron so it's not as if he has any "insider" information. Don't get me wrong, I wish the club owned it I have probably been the most outspoken member of the club in favor of buying the land.

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The camping rates MORE than doubled, with no weekly rate the LR shooters will be paying triple the old rate. Since the club was making money at the old rate one has to wonder why raise it in this economic climate.

You can vote in club elections, there was some bad info distributed before the last election. I think there was grounds to ask for a new election (you are not the first person I have heard say they couldn't vote) but now that Koz has resigned it's a moot point. The requirement to live there to be eligible to run for office is also ridiculous. As a registered non profit California Corporation that can't possibly be legal. I am trying to point that out to the board so that hopefully we can get past that issue as well.

The LR shooters really do a lot of range maintenance there. This year they installed the cover over the catwalk in the pits. There were people at the club who did not want the FCSA to return. Joe Oman, Jim O and myself were in favor of your group coming back. The LR shooters also replaced all the uprights on the targets (a prerequisite of FCSA returning). Jim O built all the targets you use and donated a weekend of his time to be there and oversee your first match there just to make sure everything went OK. My point in all this is that CRC is a range that lots of people can use especially if we all work together. Did you know that Koz was telling new members during their range orientation that he built the concrete benches at the 1000yd line? Apparently you 50 shooters had nothing to do with it!

Many things could be better at CRC, however things were going pretty well. All the labor is volunteer, most of the funding for range improvements came from CRPA as interest free loans. At least they were going well until one man decided to use it to carry out personal vendettas and build up his own ego.

It's the Coalinga Rifle Club.
Not the Clarence Rifle Club.

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Kozlouski is a bully from way back. I live in Coalinga and I've known him for over twenty years so I can say that. I quit my membership because that crap when he was in the first time. Now that he's out, maybe I'll start taking my students back there.

My son-in-law shoots HP and it would break his heart not to be able to come here and compete. HOORAY or the good guys. Thanks Joe Oman and the rest of you CRC members!!
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I was not aware of a weekly rate and I was going of the info distributed before the last election about the voting. I have only been a CRC member for about 2 years so I am still catching up on the history. Changing things right before a match especially with out telling anyone is just plain wrong.

I know some didn't want the FCSA back but everyone I have talked to and worked with has been vary supportive and really gone the extra mile to help us. I have talked with many on both sides of that issue sense it was before my time and all I can say is that I don't want to see anything like that happen in the future. I hope that I and the FCSA can be a great partner with the CRC. Like you said, the CRC is a range that lots of people can use especially if we all work together. I hope that we can work together for many years to come.

That is almost funny about the benches. I learned a long time ago not to worry about what people claim, the truth usually comes out in the end. I do know we would like to re-pour a few of the benches that developed cracks. We have started a fund to raise the money we need to do it just like we did for the first time. If you need help with some of the projects on the range, let me know and I'll get the word out on my end and see if we can't get a little help. My local range/club in the bay area has a saying, "if everyone does a little, no one has to do a lot."

I am new to competitive shooting even though I have been shooting my whole life. One of these weekend I will have to get down there and try HP with you guys. Might be just the excuse I need to buy another rifle.
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Old 12-19-2009, 2:42 PM
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Did you know that Koz was telling new members during their range orientation that he built the concrete benches at the 1000yd line? Apparently you 50 shooters had nothing to do with it!

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First of all, Dirk welcome to the forum. Just to let you know, I was a member of the CRC back in the late 80's when I lived at Coaling Station B, right after it was built. I shot my first smallbore silloutte match there. I joined again due to the hard work of Bob and a few other FCSA members who are not on this forum. I have always thought that the CRC was one of the nicest facilities in the state.

I can prove that Koz built the benches because, I have plenty of pictures of them being built. He must have magic powers though. It appears that he can change his appearance and be in a dozen places in the same photo. Anyway, most people probably have no idea that two prominent FCSA members came all the way from Washington State and used a substantial bit of their own funds to pour the tops. It took roughly 100 man hours on site (and many more getting materials, driving, etc.) to build them.

Here's a picture from the morning after Joe O helped us get them to the line:



and, a picture of the first 5 shot group that was shot off them:

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I agree with Dirk, the Highpower shooters have put a lot into the club and it shows. I used to think Jim O. lived out there. No one cares more about the club than Joe O., the barbecue fiasco is crazy, the Elks, Eagles, etc., do not get special permits to hold barbecues for members. I was Vice President when Jack Davis assumed the Highpower Chairmanship, then when Jack retired Dirk & Steve came in and have been doing a very good job. There is a mountain of paper work required from the NRA and CRPA to put on a State Championship, for many years I ran all the Silhouetts Matches so I know what Dirk has had to do. In the early 80's the CRPA re-built the pits, constructed the existing 25 targets and re-built all the firing lines. The Silhouette facilities were also built help from the Navy CB's during this time.
I was also President during the period when we had the property dispute. During this time Joe O. and myself attended many court proceedings so when the court convinced the owner to sell the property we needed some additional money, I then contacted the Jim Erdman, the CRPA Executive Officer, after a lot of negioating he offerred a interest free loan and along with the loan the CRPA requested several things which one was an agreement that the Coalinga Rifle Club host a certain number of State Championship matches each year (Silhouette & Highpower) for the period of the loan agreement (15 years). The club agreed and I signed the agreement. Later the CRPA gave us another interest loan to construct the new impact area behind the pits, which was a great improvement. The CRPA also added to our loan for a portion of the cost of the cover over the Silhouette firing line. Past history has shown attendance for the matches has been higher when held in Coalinga due to being near the center of the state, being the reason for their chice for the location. I left Coalinga (retired) in 2005 and last held the office of president in 2006, it was too much to handle the daily items being 110 miles away.
The next president for the next two years did a great job. Now concerning the present situation with the president (I am now just catching up on the problems) and several other officers resigning, I have heard some new officers will be appointed soon. So I am hoping things will be returning to normal soon, hang in there. In the words of Steve quinn on his web site "we will return"
Concering the property, I have written to Chevron many times requesting sale of their property, as of now they are not selling, we have a lease agreement and they are satisfied with that. Their property starts at the entrance gate on Derrick Ave and extends to approx. 50 yards in front of the 1000 yard line. The remaining property is owned by a cattle rancher and we also have a lease agreement with him. And of course the Club owns a 20 acre parcel in the middle of the range.
The club is a great place to shoot, with the Trap Range, Silhouette Range, Highpower Shooting and recreatonal shooting for the general membership.
Give the new officers a little time and I am sure we'll be back on track.
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I shot the Silhouette Range back in the late 80's. Hope this gets resolved and you guys get back to shooting. I know that George Douglas and Charlie Hendricks, RIP, are probably rolling over in their graves.
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