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I dropped off my CCW application 11/19/14
I dropped my application off at the Sheriff's department. I guess its good faith that the Deputy will deliver it to the correct department but it would have been nice to at least receive some type receipt.
Anyone else apply this month? I think it will be interesting to see who is reviewed when. It's also discouraging them waiting for every possible twist in the appeals process. I guess its a severe and harsh reminder to us if we get this portion of our 2nd Amendment Rights back to never let them take it again. |
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The most recent update: http://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx
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Not holding my breath. Per your quote:
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I can't imagine this will be remedied quickly even if the SCCSO decides to start issuing. |
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If I'm not mistaken there's only one range that does it and it's run by the sheriff's department.
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1) Donate $10k or more to Laurie's campaign fund 2) Own a major corporation in the south bay (Cisco, etc) 3) Get in a shootout in your gun shop with a bad guy... 1 & 2 apply to probably 50 or so individuals in Santa Clara County. Three applies to 1. The rest of us are currently SOL.
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Yeah, mine was not the recommended process.
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Just checking in. I emailed them a few months ago asking for any update on what their application process would look like, if they had a list of instructors, etc. etc.
Nothing. No response. I was completely ignored. I suggest people keep emailing the CCW unit (CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org) and asking for basic info about the application process, instructor list, etc. We are finally winning some gun rights back and I think we need to keep the pressure on. Also, @QuarterBoreGunner: Is your permit current or did she refuse to renew it for you at some point? Just wondering. Also, your description of the training requirements in the 90's appears to exceed statutory requirements (at least for today). 16 hours + 4 hour course would exceed the max of 16 hours.
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As of December 3rd we have heard this from the court:
What happened: Harris got denied intervenor status and now she gets to appeal THAT. They gave her 21 days to file the appeal. 21 days from 12/03 would be 12/24 (unless I missed something). So don't expect to hear anything from the court about her status on the case until sometime next year. Additionally, one of the judges in 9CA asked for en banc appeal. So both parties have to file briefs on whether or not they think the case should go to en banc appeal. That is also 21 days from the order (again, 12/24) and means you can expect to hear something from them sometime next year. When exactly we will get decisions is anyone's guess. It could be TWO WEEKS or three months or longer. Our court system moves at a glacial pace (just look at Palmer v DC, that complaint was originally filed in 2009!), and we just have to be patient. Summary: The 9th CA has no real time limit (other than the limits that they impose on themselves) for deciding these things. They've asked for further briefings to resolve the issue of en banc and Harris' attempt at getting involved. That means we won't have news from them till at least after new years.
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Follow the monster thread and it becomes clear that the next briefings are due on 12/24/2014... but the 9CA can take a while afterwards to disposition the pending motions. The big one will be if the sua sponte call for an en banc rehearing of the entire case is approved... if so, we are likely talking years before anything happens.
I found this to be a good summary/analysis of what is happening most recently, written pretty plain English: http://www.law.com/sites/jamesching/...20141105215543 Given the SCCSO is not going to do anything in our favor until Peruta is dispositioned and the law is on the books by mandate, I'd just forget about that SCC application for the forseeable future. No joke, it's probably easier to move from SCC to another CCW-friendly county in the meantime and establish residency, given the timelines. |
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Just a friendly reminder to all that the next round of briefings in Peruta are due tomorrow. Hopefully we will get to see them right away.
As far as further action; I wouldn't hold my breath for any news from 9CA till the end of winter/start of spring. They will take their time as they always do.
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afaiui, there is no writ of mandamus yet. And various parties have so far made that difficult in the short term.
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Nothing is likely to change until Peruta changes.
Easiest way to follow Peruta is by checking this thread as often as you want/need to: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=893452
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Enforced Peruta? In the anti-rights stronghold that is Santa Clara County? Don't be silly.
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Wow, funny you should be asking for an update. Your post in this thread prompted me to go check the CCW section of the Sheriffs Website.
As luck would have it, there IS a bit of an update. There is now a notation at the top of the page suggesting an edit was made on 3/18/15. The only change to the text that I can find is two extra lines near the bottom: Quote:
The tiniest little step in the right direction. Hell, if they are actually processing applications now I might even try my luck.
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Oh good point. Maybe the county attorneys finally got around to fully reviewing the case and they saw the wtiting on the wall! (Well, I can hope, at least)
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Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong but, once a mandate is issued in Peruta, wouldn't they have to start playing ball at that point? I don't see how they could possibly justify waiting for a mandate in Richards and Baker since presumably they will follow whatever precedent is established in Peruta.
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If the 9th decides to accept the appeal in either Richards (Yolo Co), or Baker (HI), at WORST that will stay enforcement of Peruta in those respective jurisdictions. IOW, Richards would only affect Yolo Co applicants, not anyone in the other 57 CA counties, and Baker would only affect Hawai'ian applicants, not anyone on the mainland. Think of it like abortion (w/o getting into whether you're pro-abort or anti): after Roe a number of federal court cases have gone up the circuits (and even been granted cert and decided by SCOTUS), trying to overturn Roe, yet NONE of them caused abortion providers/mills to stop performing abortions while those cases were being decided. Peruta is our Roe.
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At this point, I'd be surprised if they didn't start to abuse GMC to deny permits (already happening in other counties). Do you know which case(s) exactly are supposed to deal with GMC? Seems like I never got a clear answer on that from anyone.
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http://michellawyers.com/birdt-v-san...fs-department/
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I come here quite frequently and it's easy to miss things. I, personally, think you received a very discourteous response from ColdDeadHands1. He took more time looking up the emoji than just posting a link.
On the other hand, SonofWWIIDI posted a very helpful response for which I am grateful. If we could all just get along and remember that this is a community, well that'd be just shiny.
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