SIG BEATS GLOCK....AGAIN

[mlevans66]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-p320-x-carry/

As reported last year by our own Matthew Moss, the Danish Army began trials in 2017 to replace the Sig P210 which had been in use for over 70 years. Four handguns were being tested: the Canik’s TP9 and TP9SF, Glock’s 17 and 19, SIG Sauer’s P320 full size and compact (which have been adopted by the US Army as the M17 and M18) and Smith & Wesson’s M&P9 2.0 and 2.0 Compact.

Well as I M&P 2.0c owner I am not happy but DANG that got a Canik in that beast!!! So now Sig has continued another contract and the glock-herd will talk as if glock was cheated again. Nope, Sig just made a better product and that ridiculous glock grip angle has lost again. I hope glock goes the way of the 40 cal and both go the way of HRC.

[damon1272]

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

If Glock did that the world would explode. That would be the equivalent of Jesus returning on a unicorn holding a AR while Megedeth played in the background. lol

[damon1272]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

If Glock did that the world would explode. That would be the equivalent of Jesus returning on a unicorn holding a AR while Megedeth played in the background. lol

That was a good one! Got the visual on that one.

[westcoaster]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

If Glock did that the world would explode. That would be the equivalent of Jesus returning on a unicorn holding a AR while Megedeth played in the background. lol

Now THAT. Is friggin funny!

[el_clingon]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

I agree. if grip was not so blocky and made it like a 1911 grip angle, it would be perfect...

[smittty]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

They can. The Polymer80 maintains a 1911 grip angle and uses glock mags.

Glock believes their grip angle is perfection so they aren't changing it until they start losing more money/contracts to their competition.

[heidad01]

Originally Posted by smittty

They can. The Polymer80 maintains a 1911 grip angle and uses glock mags.

Glock believes their grip angle is perfection so they aren't changing it until they start losing more money/contracts to their competition.

Not sure what crappy guns they compared a glock to; and came up with perfection!

It is amazing how far Glock has gone by good marketing. Aside from cheape price and that it goes bang , (like any other gun), everything else on a glock really sucks. Not a thing about Glocks is perfect.

[hardcore4sure]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

Yea, then you basically have an M&P

[riftol]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

I want a Glock with the grip of the S&W M&P.

[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

Sounds like CZ beat them to it.


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[crufflers]

Originally Posted by Blade Gunner

Sounds like CZ beat them to it.

CZ's are HEAVY. That helps. As far as low bore axis some would say they are right there with DA/SA Sigs... a lot of them are steel and the slides are smaller even considering they have slides that ride inside the frame rails, they are still small. Interesting anyway. This guy has CZ in the middle and VP9, XD9, M&P9, Glock 17/19 as the top 4/5.

[Bodh1]

X carry is nice.

I'm really curious how good of a deal sig gave them. Because the Glocks that go to LE/MIL are pretty cheap.

[Mayor McRifle]

Originally Posted by Bodh1

I'm really curious how good of a deal sig gave them. Because the Glocks that go to LE/MIL are pretty cheap.

And that's the main reason most of these agencies choose Glocks. It's a decision based primarily on cost.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by Mayor McRifle

And that's the main reason most of these agencies choose Glocks. It's a decision based primarily on cost.

I'm not "as a buying official" going to turn down dirt cheap prices for a product a heard or knows that works. That's was an easy buy for those agencies. Now Sig is doing that and now Glock is shook. Add in that Sig already makes a better looking and feeling product and glocks time is coming to a close.

[The Shootist]

[tbc]

The Danish army was using the P210? What are they going to do with this stash? I'd sure love to get one.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by tbc

The Danish army was using the P210? What are they going to do with this stash? I'd sure love to get one.

Give them to glock for research on how to make a proper gun?

[sarbiker]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

Give them to glock for research on how to make a proper gun?

[Novak77]

Originally Posted by tbc

The Danish army was using the P210? What are they going to do with this stash? I'd sure love to get one.

^^^ this ^^^

[broadside]

Originally Posted by damon1272

If Glock could make a grip as good as a sig but also keep the low bore axis they would have a winner.

So a CZ then?

[Some Guy]

Show me on the doll where Glock touched you.

[D_ninja]

Originally Posted by Some Guy

Show me on the doll where Glock touched you.

Lol!

[Tere_Hanges]

Comparing a P320 to a Glock is like a Corolla to a Civic. Only neckbeards care.

I had a P320 for a few years. It was a good gun, nothing special. I ended up selling it because it really was no better than my M&P9 or Glock 19. Just another mass produced polymer framed striker fired duty pistol of which there are many. I'll take a P226 over the P320 anyday.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by lightcav

Comparing a P320 to a Glock is like a Corolla to a Civic. Only neckbeards care.

I had a P320 for a few years. It was a good gun, nothing special. I ended up selling it because it really was no better than my M&P9 or Glock 19. Just another mass produced polymer framed striker fired duty pistol of which there are many. I'll take a P226 over the P320 anyday.

I agree.

On another note, I checked out a 320 x carry yesterday, not only did the slide not go into battery but it would dry fire out of battery as well.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by solipsism

I agree.

Then you must have never shot anything other then a glock. Its a whole different world out. Drop the Glock trash and pic up some American or German love.

[solipsism]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

Then you must have never shot anything other then a glock. Its a whole different world out. Drop the Glock trash and pic up some American or German love.

You’re wrong but continue telling yourself whatever you need to in order to keep hating on a brand of firearms. I have a vp9, and a 320 x five and have had or shot many other striker guns. I still carry a 19 and I’m not a “Glock fanboy.”

[559BearDown]

Doesn't matter. Glock is king.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by Some Guy

Show me on the doll where Glock touched you.

Right around the palm and trigger finger. When I squeezed it felt like a 2x4 and I threw it away. Once I put a Sig in my hands the pain instantly went away.

Originally Posted by lightcav

Comparing a P320 to a Glock is like a Corolla to a Civic. Only neckbeards care.

I had a P320 for a few years. It was a good gun, nothing special. I ended up selling it because it really was no better than my M&P9 or Glock 19. Just another mass produced polymer framed striker fired duty pistol of which there are many. I'll take a P226 over the P320 anyday.

Apparently so do military seeing as how glock lost AGAIN to Sig. I heard the Chanik even did better.

Originally Posted by 559BearDown

Doesn't matter. Glock is king.

But the king is dying. After that BS Gen V and that 19x they look weaker then ever. Sig and CZ and waiting for them to fall so the throne can be taken.

[_TomT_]

I can't wait for the Austrian Armed Forces trials.

[trackcage]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-p320-x-carry/





Well as I M&P 2.0c owner I am not happy but DANG that got a Canik in that beast!!! So now Sig has continued another contract and the glock-herd will talk as if glock was cheated again. Nope, Sig just made a better product and that ridiculous glock grip angle has lost again. I hope glock goes the way of the 40 cal and both go the way of HRC.

What's your point? Your M&P lost too, which will never be nearly as popular as either glock or sig

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by trackcage

What's your point? Your M&P lost too, which will never be nearly as popular as either glock or sig

Its coming along nicely. People that wanted a G19 sized M&P now have it. We like it and the one thing we don't like about it (the trigger) they already have a fix for it. S&W improved while glock is steady dying from its lack on innovation.

[Oldmandan]

The issue here, is that Glock continues to try to pass off a recycled 35 year old design. While other manufacturers are developing new products, that have the features customers are asking for.

Glock needs to wake up and jump into 2018 with the rest us. Maybe losing these contracts will open up thier eyes, so they can put thier errogance aside and start building modern pistols.

[Carcassonne]

Originally Posted by Oldmandan

The issue here, is that Glock continues to try to pass off a recycled 35 year old design. While other manufacturers are developing new products, that have the features customers are asking for.

...

What do you think about the 1911? Isn't that over 100 years old?

Let me guess. The fact that the 1911 is still being produced is proof of its superior design, and in turn, the fact that the Glock has been produced for 35 years is proof that it is inferior.


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[Tere_Hanges]

Realistcally, all those HANDGUNS in the competition would make adequate side arms. Keep in mind the context here. This isnt a battle rifle competition. Its a sidearm that will most likely have very limited combat application.

As with any competition, there can only be one winner. Does that mean all the others were complete trash? Of course not. Its really small beans to crow about how the winner is so much more superior to any of the other designs.

How long has striker fired pistol technology been around? For decades. Its literally not rocket science.

This earth shattering "news" is much ado about nothing. If you like Sigs thats fine, if you like Glock thats fine too. Both are great guns and some of us actually like both AND 1911s in 9mm, .40, AND .45. OH MY GOD, BLASPHEMY! It really comes down to personal preference.

This thread is just another lame attempt to start a flame war. Good job OP, your troll is strong with this thread.

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by lightcav

Realistcally, all those HANDGUNS in the competition would make adequate side arms. Keep in mind the context here. This isnt a battle rifle competition. Its a sidearm that will most likely have very limited combat application.

As with any competition, there can only be one winner. Does that mean all the others were complete trash? Of course not. Its really small beans to crow about how the winner is so much more superior to any of the other designs.

How long has striker fired pistol technology been around? For decades. Its literally not rocket science.

This earth shattering "news" is much ado about nothing. If you like Sigs thats fine, if you like Glock thats fine too. Both are great guns and some of us actually like both AND 1911s in 9mm, .40, AND .45. OH MY GOD, BLASPHEMY! It really comes down to personal preference.

This thread is just another lame attempt to start a flame war. Good job OP, your troll is strong with this thread.

Oh please glock 5 five was STRAIGHT TRASH and they did nothing innovative. While the rest just did a G19 better. Glock best to wake up before then turn in blackberry.

[Tere_Hanges]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

Oh please glock 5 five was STRAIGHT TRASH and they did nothing innovative. While the rest just did a G19 better. Glock best to wake up before then turn in blackberry.

Im perfectly content with a Gen 2 or 3 Glock. I really dont care either way. Fingergrooves or not, doesnt matter. I'll still shoot them just as accurately as any other gun including the P320. Polymer framed stiker fired guns are nothing more than tools to me, they will work if I work. Its kind of silly for people to get all frothy over which PFSF pistol is the "best".

[mlevans66]

Originally Posted by Flying Sig

You hope a firearms manufacturer fails because you don’t like their product? Wow. You really must have been molested by a Glock or something. I know there are Glock haters out there, but you take it to a new level

I'm against people putting out trash and calling it gold. Glock where good at gen 3 and 4 was...... Then they did the 5 and people where like WTF?!? Shooters now want from serrations, metal sights and cuts for optics. The put a cut in the from of the grip, did match the slide cut the frame and took out the finger groves and when "HERE!" MF'er you aint HK! Don't make stuff for us and tell us you hate us. No make something cool AF, spit on us and call us scum if you must but MAKE SOMETHING WORTH BUYING!!!

Originally Posted by lightcav

Im perfectly content with a Gen 2 or 3 Glock. I really dont care either way. Fingergrooves or not, doesnt matter. I'll still shoot them just as accurately as any other gun including the P320. Polymer framed stiker fired guns are nothing more than tools to me, they will work if I work. Its kind of silly for people to get all frothy over which PFSF pistol is the "best".

You must not be a carpenter or work on anything. Good tools make the job easy and enjoyable.

[Flying Sig]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

I'm against people putting out trash and calling it gold. Glock where good at gen 3 and 4 was...... Then they did the 5 and people where like WTF?!? Shooters now want from serrations, metal sights and cuts for optics. The put a cut in the from of the grip, did match the slide cut the frame and took out the finger groves and when "HERE!" MF'er you aint HK! Don't make stuff for us and tell us you hate us. No make something cool AF, spit on us and call us scum if you must but MAKE SOMETHING WORTH BUYING!!!

You must not be a carpenter or work on anything. Good tools make the job easy and enjoyable.

Wow

[Flying Sig]

Originally Posted by mlevans66

I hope glock goes the way of the 40 cal and both go the way of HRC.

You hope a firearms manufacturer fails because you don’t like their product? Wow. You really must have been molested by a Glock or something. I know there are Glock haters out there, but you take it to a new level