Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > FIREARMS DISCUSSIONS > California handguns
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

California handguns Discuss your favorite California handgun technical and related questions here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old 08-19-2011, 11:26 AM
totus44's Avatar
totus44 totus44 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Escondido
Posts: 675
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyc Wid It View Post
If you want to source the gun yourself, then you find a dealer who will do the transfer and conversion for you from the list. They will probably charge some sort of fee for this on top of the transfer fee. What may be easier is buying the gun directly from the dealer doing the conversion, since you won't have to deal with explaining the process to a vendor who doesn't know about the law. Either way you will then DROS the gun in single shot exempt form. After you take possession, you can convert it back to standard form.
OK thanks. So as an example, purchase the single shot version from Table Rock (Medford, OR) and have them ship to a FFL in Socal such as DAS (Solana Beach, CA) and then do the DROS there, wait 10 days and receive in single shot exempt form and then convert back to standard from myself. Question: will the seller/dealer include instructions on the 'reversion' or will it be obvious? Since it's a single shot exempt, will it come with the magazines or will these also be 'parted down'? If parted down, would they be 10 run or the higher capacity for the Gen4 Glock 17?

Sorry to be a PIA. After I get through this I'd be happy to post the step by step process I went through for other noobs like me.
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 08-19-2011, 1:20 PM
EBR Works's Avatar
EBR Works EBR Works is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 10,399
iTrader: 120 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by totus44 View Post
OK thanks. So as an example, purchase the single shot version from Table Rock (Medford, OR) and have them ship to a FFL in Socal such as DAS (Solana Beach, CA) and then do the DROS there, wait 10 days and receive in single shot exempt form and then convert back to standard from myself. Question: will the seller/dealer include instructions on the 'reversion' or will it be obvious? Since it's a single shot exempt, will it come with the magazines or will these also be 'parted down'? If parted down, would they be 10 run or the higher capacity for the Gen4 Glock 17?

Sorry to be a PIA. After I get through this I'd be happy to post the step by step process I went through for other noobs like me.
Ryan at TRA is a really nice guy and he'll walk you through the "reversion" process if you need it.

If the transfer dealer so chooses and he has a large cap mag permit, he can disassemble non-compliant mags for delivery to you. It's up to you to use the disassembled kits in a legal manner. He is definitely not going to give you the large cap mags in their assembled form unless he is brain dead.
.
.
.
.
__________________


Check out our e-commerce site here:

www.ebrworks.com

Serving you from Prescott, AZ
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 08-19-2011, 1:21 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Depends on how comfortable you are with that particular platform, but after you take possession you can most likely ask the shop to convert it back for you. If you use an FFL that is less experienced for the transfer (99% sure DAS can help you with this), I'm sure Table Rock can send you instructions. You can source 10 round magazines for the Glock on your own or maybe the seller will substitute them for you, but any high capacity magazines have to be disassembled and can only be used as rebuild kits.

ETA: Do I need to make the step by step stuff more clear in the OP?
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 08-19-2011, 1:37 PM
totus44's Avatar
totus44 totus44 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Escondido
Posts: 675
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

a step by step/play by play hypothetical example wouldn't hurt.

i was all set to make the purchase when the guy behind the counter said...you're a leo, right? imagine our surprise, lol! so he told me to go to calguns.net and search sse for the gen4 glock 17.

i greatly appreciate in information. i'll contact DAS and TRA. i also have an interstate intrafamial transfer i need to do, my dad is gifting his old service revolvers to me, so hopefully this makes it worth DAS time and trouble.
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 08-19-2011, 6:55 PM
Table Rock Arms's Avatar
Table Rock Arms Table Rock Arms is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 812
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

I was actually thinking of making a simple how to video for taking the parts out today. I was pretty busy so it didn't get done but I will see if I can get it done tomorrow.

Ryan
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 08-20-2011, 4:48 AM
morrcarr67's Avatar
morrcarr67 morrcarr67 is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ontario, CA
Posts: 14,846
iTrader: 33 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RLW View Post
I was actually thinking of making a simple how to video for taking the parts out today. I was pretty busy so it didn't get done but I will see if I can get it done tomorrow.

Ryan
Thanks in advance for your help Ryan.

I was so bummed; two weeks ago I was in OR but both times I went through Medford your shop was closed

I hope next time I will get a chance to stop by.
__________________
Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erion929 View Post

”Benitez 3:29 Thou shall not limit magazine capacity”
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 08-20-2011, 6:49 AM
Table Rock Arms's Avatar
Table Rock Arms Table Rock Arms is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 812
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by morrcarr67 View Post
Thanks in advance for your help Ryan.

I was so bummed; two weeks ago I was in OR but both times I went through Medford your shop was closed

I hope next time I will get a chance to stop by.
My shop is not a retail shop as it is zoned industrial and not commercial so I am not supposed to have walk in customers. It is really just a work shop and not much to see at that. A few machines a desk and some safes. Hot as hell this time of year I might add.

Ryan
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 08-20-2011, 9:26 AM
morrcarr67's Avatar
morrcarr67 morrcarr67 is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ontario, CA
Posts: 14,846
iTrader: 33 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RLW View Post
My shop is not a retail shop as it is zoned industrial and not commercial so I am not supposed to have walk in customers. It is really just a work shop and not much to see at that. A few machines a desk and some safes. Hot as hell this time of year I might add.

Ryan
Well that's too bad.
__________________
Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erion929 View Post

”Benitez 3:29 Thou shall not limit magazine capacity”
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 08-20-2011, 7:11 PM
Table Rock Arms's Avatar
Table Rock Arms Table Rock Arms is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 812
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

OK, so I went to the shop today for the sole purpose of making a video of converting a single shot pistol back to standard configuration. One take and my camera froze. Wasn't even sure if the first take was gonna work until I got home and hooked up to my laptop. I used an HK45 in the video but basically they all work the same way.

Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 08-24-2011, 3:19 PM
viet4lifeOC's Avatar
viet4lifeOC viet4lifeOC is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,887
iTrader: 17 / 100%
Default OC no single shot exemption stores?

I'm envious of those in Northern California who have Valkerie Arms to get their off roster guns.

I just don't understand why there aren't many FFLs in OC taking advantage of the demand by consumers wanting to buy off roster handguns. It's a gold mine.

I've sent in my order form for a custom Les Baer monolith frame with TRS parts in 9mm. Worried if I can even get it shipped in CA in 7 months when it's done. GULP.
Reply With Quote
  #131  
Old 08-27-2011, 9:15 AM
totus44's Avatar
totus44 totus44 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Escondido
Posts: 675
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Just a quick update and a thank you to all that have contributed to this thread. I also wanted to thank all of you that took the time to PM me regarding your experiences with DAS, they were spot on.

I got a call back the next morning from Sean at DAS in Solana Beach and he walked my through the process step-by-step. Excellent customer service. We concluded our business the next morning as he ordered the Gen4 G17 for SSE. By Tues/Wed he'll have the serial number and I can go to his shop and start the DROS process. In addition to the professionalism exhibited by the guys at DAS, their prices are extremely competitive for San Diego County. I will be doing business with DAS for roster and non-roster SSE from now on.
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 08-28-2011, 3:24 PM
winston1911 winston1911 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Rancho Cucamonga
Posts: 105
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default Confussed!!!

Okay, I have been trying to figure this SSE out. Some background on me first, I just received my LTC and do not want to do anything that could put that in jeopardy. I let my first permit expire in 2003 (stupid me) and it was a long process to get it back. I really want a LCP and Walther PPS for my permit, but I am not going to take a gun that I am not 100% sure is legal to the SD.

So, my quest begins;.

I have talked to 4 different FFL's and all of them have given me different answers.

The first FFl was for a SSE AR pistol at the gun show. He said that i could buy the pistol as a SSE and once I own it, could place a 10 round magazine in it and top feed it. If I removed the magazine to reload, whether with a BB or not, it would be a felony. The next FFL told me that I could only use a 1 round mag and I could remove the mag.

Second question was on SSE pistol transfers. Warrior one in Riverside said they would not do them, but that they were legal. Fair enough. The second was Cal-arms. They will do them but when I asked about converting it back after I got it, they told me that it was a felony. When I asked where I could find that info, I was told DOJ web site and then was completely ignored. Great service from them. Not going back there. Rather deal with the lines at Bass Pro than them.

The last stop of the day was High Impact Tactical in Upland. Small shop but the guy that works there (did not get his name, real big guy) was very helpful. He talked to us for 30 minutes about what he knew of the SSE. First of all, he will do them all day long as he is legal to sell it to you as a SSE. When I asked about the conversion after the sale, he said yes and no. He talked to ATF and they said no problem. Then he called DOJ, they said no way. I forgot what he said about the AR, but it was different than the other 3.

Does anyone have a resource that I can go to to check this out. I am concerned when the SD runs the gun and it comes up as SSE and it is no longer that way, my LTC might be put at risk.

Any help would be great.
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 08-28-2011, 3:53 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Modifying a handgun into another legal handgun configuration is legal.

There are no laws restricting an individual or gunsmith from changing an owner’s handgun in one legal configuration to any other legal configuration. (This is regardless of its Roster status or exemption; the Roster is really just a gating function to resale.)

Changes to caliber and/or barrel length can be made, along with rimfire vs. centerfire changeover, conversion between single vs. double-action status, conversion between single-shot vs. repeater status, etc. [However, conversion to any of various prohibited firearm categories such as assault weapon, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, unconventional pistol, etc. must be avoided! Both Federal and CA law must be observed.]
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #134  
Old 09-22-2011, 4:53 AM
DCF DCF is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,181
iTrader: 65 / 100%
Default

I know that Wild Bills in Elk Grove can do SSE now for gen 4 Glock and Ruger LCP. I didn't ask what other type of guns that they can perform SSE though. I just thought that the OP can add their shop to the list.

I hope just one day that we don't need a database anymore because it has become a common practice.
Reply With Quote
  #135  
Old 09-25-2011, 9:13 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DCF View Post
I know that Wild Bills in Elk Grove can do SSE now for gen 4 Glock and Ruger LCP. I didn't ask what other type of guns that they can perform SSE though. I just thought that the OP can add their shop to the list.

I hope just one day that we don't need a database anymore because it has become a common practice.
Do you have more information on the shop? All I can find is some semi-complete yelp page that doesn't list any hours.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #136  
Old 09-26-2011, 12:29 PM
Trapper John Trapper John is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Mother Lode, Amador Cty
Posts: 94
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

From their business card:

Wild Bills Old West Trading Co.
10490 East Stockton Blvd, Ste 150
Elk Grove, CA 95624
Phone - 916-686-7699
Fax - 916-714-7690
Email - ezpardner@yahoo.com

I have bought a couple of rifles there and they are excellent to deal with. Last time I was ther they opened at 10 AM on a Friday. Not sure of closing time or what days they are open.

John
__________________
“Half the battle is rising in defiance with the cry, ‘I’ll never give in!’” –M.Wilson

Last edited by Trapper John; 09-26-2011 at 12:34 PM.. Reason: Premature posting, finished it this time
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 09-29-2011, 1:19 PM
Dan FS71's Avatar
Dan FS71 Dan FS71 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange County
Posts: 403
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

tagged for interest, thanks for the great info
Reply With Quote
  #138  
Old 10-02-2011, 3:18 PM
Guthdog Guthdog is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default Fundamento CCW Question around Single Shot Conversion

Hello all,

Been lurking for awhile on this thread but I have a related question regarding weapons that have gone through the single shot conversion and then have been reverted back.

I will be applying for my CCW. Not totally clear on the process yet, but I'll figure it out, (I'm sure with your all's help).

Question is this: Is there any chance that I might get in trouble with the CCW process if I have a weapon that was converted with the single shot conversion, then converted back?

What's driving this for me is that I really like the the Boberg XR9-S as it is highly concealable but soft shooting enough so you can practice a lot. My wife has expressed interest in learning to shoot a handgun as well, so I want to make sure she has as positive experience as possible.

Thanks for your input, take care.
Reply With Quote
  #139  
Old 10-02-2011, 6:36 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

You can put it on your CCW if you can actually obtain one.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 10-02-2011, 10:38 PM
Guthdog Guthdog is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Thanks Cyc,

Pretty sure I can justify. I hope so anyway.

SHG
Reply With Quote
  #141  
Old 10-03-2011, 11:48 AM
go4kil's Avatar
go4kil go4kil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 116
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

is it only tablerockarms doing single shot conversions?
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 10-03-2011, 1:07 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Every dealer in the original post is doing the conversions...
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 10-05-2011, 3:11 PM
scottbadger's Avatar
scottbadger scottbadger is offline
Member
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Redding
Posts: 300
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default CCW

Thanks to all the posters in this thread for the great information provided. I purchased a P30 a few weeks ago and added to my CCW today without any issues.
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 10-09-2011, 2:59 PM
protoolsnerd's Avatar
protoolsnerd protoolsnerd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 788
iTrader: 13 / 100%
Default

Hi guys !!! I've finally come around to the SSE way. Just wondering who you guys like in socal to get a RIA 1911 in 9mm? Is there a shop that specializes in 1911s that does em more then say Gen4 glocks or the like?

Any favorite socal places that support SSE ? I'd love to give them some business!
__________________
Aaron " The Gun Nerd "
NRA Cert. Pistol & Rifle Instructor / RSO
Instructor , Amorer , Class III enthusiast and part time builder
Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 10-11-2011, 6:22 AM
savtru savtru is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Elk Grove CA
Posts: 92
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

You can add XDM's to the list for Wild Bills..... Ordered mine a week ago! They are open Tuesday -Saturday. Closed Sun & Monday. Glad to see local shop getting us some XDM's...
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 10-11-2011, 10:29 AM
rgarland79's Avatar
rgarland79 rgarland79 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Mount Pleasant Arms will also do the transfers for a fee, only one I know of that I didn't see listed.
http://www.mparms.com/Transfer-Services-_ep_43.html
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 10-11-2011, 10:02 PM
Williamhlee Williamhlee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: San Francisco bay area
Posts: 183
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

If you are in Norcal San Francisco bay area, I highly recommend Tracy Rifle and Pistol shop for SSE. I recently bought one recently.
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 10-12-2011, 6:58 AM
EBR Works's Avatar
EBR Works EBR Works is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 10,399
iTrader: 120 / 100%
Default

I have been discussing the single shot exemption process with my management contact at STI. He appears willing to listen and will take the information I provided to the upper level decision makers in the company. He was completely unaware of what is happening here with single shot exemptions and was very intrigued as to the possibilities. We'll see what happens.....
.
.
.
.
__________________


Check out our e-commerce site here:

www.ebrworks.com

Serving you from Prescott, AZ
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 10-12-2011, 7:12 AM
n2k n2k is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pasadena
Posts: 1,513
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBR Works View Post
I have been discussing the single shot exemption process with my management contact at STI. He appears willing to listen and will take the information I provided to the upper level decision makers in the company. He was completely unaware of what is happening here with single shot exemptions and was very intrigued as to the possibilities. We'll see what happens.....

.
First it was JBM with the 1919 and now STI..... Keep up the good work
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 10-12-2011, 12:08 PM
831Shooter's Avatar
831Shooter 831Shooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
Posts: 127
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Hey all - So in reading the link in the 1st post "in depth explanation thread" by bwiese it states the summary and clarifications of all the exemptions to the roster. One of the exemptions mentioned being:


Quote:
California FFLs are allowed to freely import non-Rostered handguns for prospective LEO sales - and handguns rendered into Roster-exempt status are legal for resale to ordinary Californians too. Note the 12133PC exemptions includes the controlling phrase, “The provisions of this chapter do not apply…”
It would seem this would be WAY easier than dealing with the whole conversion issue. Not to mention the fact that there are a ton of off roster guns out there where it just is not possible/practical to get it exempt via the SSE.

Seems pretty cut and dry legally as I read it. Any FFL is allowed to purchase off roster guns so they can potentially sell to LE. But once that gun is in their possession it can be sold to any non exempt person. Period.

So are any of the FFLs doing this? If so, who? If not, why not?

Thanks,
831S
Reply With Quote
  #151  
Old 10-12-2011, 2:34 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

You still have to render them into roster-exempt status - you are misreading. Merely having imported them for LEO sales does not exempt them.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #152  
Old 10-13-2011, 8:16 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Some updates have been added to the OP.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #153  
Old 10-16-2011, 6:35 PM
831Shooter's Avatar
831Shooter 831Shooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
Posts: 127
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyc Wid It View Post
You still have to render them into roster-exempt status - you are misreading. Merely having imported them for LEO sales does not exempt them.
Gotcha. Thanks!

One other question. I think I have decided on the Kel-tec PF-9.. I spoke with one of the FFLs in the list and they can get the gun and do the SSE.

While the legality of how everything done is very clear, I don't understand the "actual" process.

So I understand that they would get the PF-9 and convert to SSE. Which means a mag-block and somehow making the gun with 6” minimum barrel length, and a minimum overall length of 10.5” when assembled.

I assume a drop in barrel is how they get the minimum required length.

So, I wait my 10 days and go to pick up my gun. As soon as I take possesion can/do I sit down right there and take out and return the long barrel and put the normal barrel in, etc.?

Thanks,
831S
Reply With Quote
  #154  
Old 10-16-2011, 6:37 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

Generally drop in barrel and some sort of mag lock etc. It varies on the shop's preference and the type of gun. You can sit down and do it right there if they'll let you after you take possession.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
  #155  
Old 10-16-2011, 7:08 PM
ChrisTKHarris's Avatar
ChrisTKHarris ChrisTKHarris is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 4,205
iTrader: 35 / 97%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 831Shooter View Post
Gotcha. Thanks!

One other question. I think I have decided on the Kel-tec PF-9.. I spoke with one of the FFLs in the list and they can get the gun and do the SSE.

While the legality of how everything done is very clear, I don't understand the "actual" process.

So I understand that they would get the PF-9 and convert to SSE. Which means a mag-block and somehow making the gun with 6” minimum barrel length, and a minimum overall length of 10.5” when assembled.

I assume a drop in barrel is how they get the minimum required length.

So, I wait my 10 days and go to pick up my gun. As soon as I take possesion can/do I sit down right there and take out and return the long barrel and put the normal barrel in, etc.?

Thanks,
831S
That is correct. Only stipulation is that these barrels are manufactured for each gun/platform, so not all shops will have a barrel for every type of gun if there isn't a big enough demand for it.
__________________
Don't let the name fool you...
Reply With Quote
  #156  
Old 10-16-2011, 7:44 PM
831Shooter's Avatar
831Shooter 831Shooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
Posts: 127
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisTKHarris View Post
That is correct. Only stipulation is that these barrels are manufactured for each gun/platform, so not all shops will have a barrel for every type of gun if there isn't a big enough demand for it.
Excellent Chris.. Thanks for the quick answer!

I already spoke with the shop and they said no problem on the PF-9 and P-11, which were the guns I was flipping between.

Take care,
831S
Reply With Quote
  #157  
Old 10-19-2011, 11:19 AM
seainc's Avatar
seainc seainc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,209
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Few questions:
1. It seems MP5K pistol clone will not be allow because its barrel is under 7.5", correct?
2. For the MP5 clone pistol, if seller send in with mag disassembled and no BB installed, will it meet the legal SSE-P requirements? if not, how to make it into SSE-P?
3. How to make HK45 into SSE-P for transfer?

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #158  
Old 10-19-2011, 12:18 PM
ke6guj's Avatar
ke6guj ke6guj is offline
Moderator
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 909
Posts: 23,728
iTrader: 42 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by seainc View Post
Few questions:
1. It seems MP5K pistol clone will not be allow because its barrel is under 7.5", correct?
not sure where you came up with that 7.5" number. SSE requires a 6" barrel, but I dont' think a 5K has even that, so you'd have to have a barrel extention permanently attached along with the zero-round mag (SLED)

Quote:
2. For the MP5 clone pistol, if seller send in with mag disassembled and no BB installed, will it meet the legal SSE-P requirements? if not, how to make it into SSE-P?
An MP5 with a standard magazine release would be an AW, a felony. It needs to have a maglock installed before it comes into CA. In addition, it would need a SLED installed to be SSE.

Quote:
3. How to make HK45 into SSE-P for transfer?

Thanks.
have barrel extended to at least 6" (probably need to be closer to 7-8" to make 10.5" OAL) and have a SLED installed with a mag lock.


12133(b) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six inches and that has an overall length of at least 10 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
__________________
Jack



Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.
Reply With Quote
  #159  
Old 10-19-2011, 12:32 PM
seainc's Avatar
seainc seainc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,209
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Thanks for the quick reply.

Any instruction on How to make a zero-round mag (SLED)?

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #160  
Old 10-19-2011, 1:57 PM
Cyc Wid It's Avatar
Cyc Wid It Cyc Wid It is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 4,487
iTrader: 24 / 100%
Default

You could use some sort of dowel or other method of blocking the magazine.
__________________
WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:19 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2021, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.
All opinions, statements and remarks made by Calguns.net on this web site and elsewhere are solely attributable to Calguns.net.



Seams2SewBySusy