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A little common sense would do a lot of good. If I remember correctly, there was a kid who lost control of a submachine gun at a gun show and died.
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Bottom line the responsibility falls on the gun owner who handed her the revolver with more than 1 round. Or do we hold car makers accountable when their vehicles kill people with a drunk driver behind the wheel?
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Best done by starting with a 22 pistol and making sure / watching that they don't manufacture a recoil move on a gun we know has none (I use one with a bull barrel; has no muzzle rise). Last edited by sl0re10; 12-12-2013 at 4:10 PM.. |
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Everyone is all happy and giddy but the people that know what just happened, she almost killed herself or someone else.
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These kinds of videos are infuriating.
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Someone should be able to go out and buy this gun, RTFM, know what could happen and that he or she should start with one round in the cylinder. This tribal knowledge crap, where new shooters need to be taken by the hand by experienced shooters and taught, is BS. That's just spread by guys wanting to feel superior. |
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It's not tribal knowledge. It's common sense. You don't load 2 rounds of the most powerful magnum 50 cal handgun on the market and fire it without precaution. I've fired tons of s&w 500 rounds and I still load one at a time.
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I've fired the **** out of the S&W 500. For most normal size guys, the recoil is manageable. However, after about 50 rounds, my wrists were hurting and I'm a pretty strong guy.
So it's definitely up to the more experienced shooter present to prevent tragedies like this from happening. I know this is controversial but I don't give a rats keester. We all must vow to take responsibility for those around us as responsible shooters. When you see something, say something. You may save a life. In addition, I feel that since most ranges seem to have some NOVELTY rental such as a 50 cal bolt gun or a S&W 500 or the like, they need to take a more serious approach to the rental of said firearm. Not everyone with $20 and a smile needs to shoot it. The range officer can call a NO GO on a shooter if they don't seem like they can handle the firearm. |
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Good observation I can see it happening with a DE more so than a double action S&W. It happened for sure...But why??? Or how Have not seen a good answer really... MY thoughts...**** happened...RIP
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S&W .500 magnum should come with illustrated warning.
I disagree with you.
However, S&W could and should take the trouble to include a message, with illustrations included, explaining what can happen if the .500 magnum is fired by someone who either does not or cannot hold the gun with the proper grip. (There should also be a warning on the S&W website with links to videos showing the extreme muzzle flip and explaining the hazards of it.) Allowing someone to shoot the S&W .500 magnum who either does not or cannot grip the gun safely is primarily the fault of the person lending the gun. I have seen men in youtube videos do the same thing. One guy lacerated his face with the front sight because of the muzzle flip. So this problem is not limited to females. Just sayin'. Because it is such a potentially deadly (albeit rare) hazard, S&W really should include an illustrated warning for the lawful purchaser. This is one instance where I think the manufacturer should take extra caution in explaining to the consumer how the product functions--specifically, how it functions differently from other revolvers. In the case of the S&W .500 magnum, size matters. Its size causes it to function slightly differently in the hands of a shooter who is unable to control the muzzle flip. Most revolvers are not like that. This one needs a warning included with it. That's my two cents.
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Actually, it was.
I see what you're trying to say, but that is a lame attempt at "making a point". Can get in just as much trouble on a 1000cc motorcycle as a 250cc. One just doesn't go as fast, as quick. Last edited by Aces and 8s; 12-14-2013 at 3:59 PM.. |
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Wow, you're really on Calguns huh? |
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Hell, I do that with .22lr. It's just a smart play.
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The person who handed her that revolver with more than one in the cylinder is an idiot.
How many videos are there on youtube with incidental double taps with large caliber magnums? It's almost always an inexperienced young petite shooter. You'd think someone that owns or rents these magnum revolvers would know this stuff. It's those types that get a laugh from someone who doesn't know how to handle the recoil that put a bad name on gun owners. Can't fix stupid.
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That sort of thing really gets under my skin. Working behind the counter, there is nothing worse than Mr Macho wanting his girlfriend to hold the gun that she doesn't want to hold and then she flags everyone in the store (particularly me). Thank the Lord none of the display guns are loaded otherwise I'd have been shot (at) over 1,000 times this past year. Make me glad I don't work at a shooting range, I can't even fathom how often range masters nearly lose their life to careless jerks. Gun safety has gotten loads better but there is still too much room for improvement. |
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Plenty of youtube vids showing this happen and always some macho ******* giggling in the background. You just know there was one here, elbowing his friend and saying 'watch this'.
Total blame is on the guy who handed her the gun. That said, there's also a vid from a security camera where a guy was robbing a hotel with a 32. Waving it around and accidentally put a round through the wall and the recoil flipped it up and he put a 2nd round under his chin and out the top of his head. At least he did it to himself, but still total negligence. |
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